Here’s the thing, think about it, you paid for your kid to college or more likely, you or they took out loans. They announce they’re going to work at the White House or, for POOTWH. What do you do? Opportunity? It’s the White House, man? Yea but it’s POOTWH, too? L
How many parents are wishing they knew? They’re all going to regret their kid’s being pardon.
“Extraordinary to see the finger on neutrality's scale for supremacy. What is viewed as business as usual when enacted on behalf of supremacy becomes an infraction to worry over for a week, or a "politicization" to ignore, when enacted to oppose supremacy.“
Palin urges Begich to drop House bid; Begich declines
By BECKY BOHRER and MARK THIESSEN
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WASILLA, Alaska (AP) — Alaska U.S. House candidate Sarah Palin called on fellow Republican Nick Begich to drop out of the race Monday, holding a news conference in the same place where on a holiday weekend more than a decade ago she announced plans to resign as Alaska's governor.
“He keeps calling me a quitter," she told reporters, adding later: "And now he wants me, the one who is clearly the only true conservative in this race who can win, he wants me to quit! Now that's the real joke. Sorry, Nick. I never retreat, I reload.”
Monday was the deadline for candidates to withdraw from the November general election. Begich, who was critical of Palin during the campaign, seeking to cast her as a quitter and questioning her motives in running, said Monday his campaign is “confident that we are on a positive trajectory to win in November.”
“Ranked choice voting showed that Palin simply doesn’t have enough support from Alaskans to win an election and her performance in the Special was embarrassing as a former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate," he said in a statement Monday.
Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, and Begich lost an Aug. 16 ranked choice special election to serve the remainder of the late Republican Rep. Don Young's term to Democrat Mary Peltola. The results were tabulated Wednesday and certified Friday. Peltola led in first choice votes heading into the tabulation rounds, followed by Palin and then Begich. Begich was the candidate eliminated first.
Of the Begich voters who ranked a second candidate, 36% chose Peltola and about 64% chose Palin.
A spokesperson for Peltola's campaign, Josh Wilson, said Peltola will be sworn in on Sept. 13.
Peltola, Palin and Begich also advanced from the August primary to the November general election, with the winner of that contest to serve a two-year term. They will be joined by Libertarian Chris Bye, after the fourth place finisher in the primary, Republican Tara Sweeney, withdrew.
Voters in 2020 approved changes to Alaska's elections process, scrapping party primaries in favor of open primaries in which the top four vote getters, regardless of party affiliation, advance to the general election, and instituting ranked voting for general elections. The special House election was the first ranked vote election under the system.
Palin's news conference at her lakeside home in Wasilla Monday was interrupted at points by the noise from floatplanes passing by.
She again defended her decision to resign as governor in July 2009, a decision she announced July 3 that year. She said Monday that being governor was a job she wanted to have but resigning was the “right thing.” She cited in part ethics complaints that she said were frivolous and had become distractions.
Begich last week questioned Palin's ability to win an election and she urged him to drop out, a call she reiterated Monday.
Palin said it would make “no sense” for her to drop out. If Begich doesn't withdraw, “then you'll be able to see us not just talking the talk but walking the walk that we've not yet begun to fight," she said.
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Gov. Kristi Noem tried to avoid ethics hearing, seal records
By STEPHEN GROVES
2 hours ago
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem asked a state ethics board to dismiss a complaint against her without a public hearing and to seal off certain records, documents released Friday by the state’s Government Accountability Board show.
The Republican governor, who is widely seen as eyeing a 2024 White House bid, argued in an April motion that the state's attorney general, a fellow Republican who filed the complaint, was out for political retribution and should be removed from the complaint. Noem had pushed former Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg to resign and later for his impeachment over his involvement in a fatal car crash.
The attorney general's complaint was sparked by a report from The Associated Press last year that Noem had taken a hands-on role in a state agency. Shortly after the agency moved to deny her daughter, Kassidy Peters, a real estate appraiser license in July of 2020, Noem held a meeting with Peters and key decision-makers in her licensure. Days after the meeting, Peters signed an agreement that gave her another opportunity to meet the licensing requirements.
The records released Friday provided some new insight into an inquiry that the Government Accountability Board has conducted mostly in secret for nearly a year. The three retired judges who evaluated the ethics complaint unanimously found last month that there was enough evidence for them to believe that Noem “engaged in misconduct" by committing malfeasance and a conflict of interest.
The board has said “appropriate action” would be taken against Noem, though it didn’t specify the action. It's also not clear whether Noem will request a contested case hearing before the board to publicly defend herself against the allegations.
Neither her office nor her campaign said Friday whether she will proceed to a public hearing. She has continued to publicly insist that she did nothing wrong.
The records show that Noem, in a 29-page motion to the board, launched a range of arguments for dismissing the complaint. Her attorney, Lisa Prostrollo, mocked Ravnsborg's allegations as “nonsensical," a “political attack” and based on “far-fetched conspiracy theories.”
The motion argues Noem's daughter joined the July 2020 meeting to provide her perspective as an applicant and attempts to defend how that was appropriate while she was facing a denial of her license. Government ethics experts have said the timing and circumstances of the meeting created a clear conflict of interest for the governor.
Noem's attorney argued that the Government Accountability Board did not have the constitutional power to act against the governor or evaluate the complaint against her. And the lawyer suggested that Ravnsborg, who had been forced from office, be removed from the complaint and replaced with the deputy attorney general who was overseeing the office at the time.
The board in August denied Noem's motion. However, it did appear to later pay some heed to Noem's requests. It dismissed two of Ravnsborg's allegations that she misused public funds, and sealed off certain records from being released.
Ravnbsorg suggested that the board launch a full investigation into the episode by hiring a Minneapolis law firm. However, the board appears ready to settle the matter. It closed the complaint and has so far kept it a secret what “action” it may take against the governor, though it has suggested the complaint could be reopened later.
The secrecy of the board's potential action against the governor has prompted some criticism from government ethics experts who say the board should be transparent.
“I would hope that they would make public their plan of action as soon as possible,” Karen Soli, a former Democratic state lawmaker who helped create the board, told the AP last month.
Noem also made a motion to strike certain documents from the record, but it is not clear what those records were because the board did not release that motion. The board's attorney, Mark Haigh, said the motion was not released because it contained the list of redacted records.
The board previously voted to redact records that “contain privileged information” related to a state fund for paying litigation. The agency's former director, Sherry Bren, received a $200,000 payment from the fund to settle an age discrimination complaint she filed after Labor Secretary Marcia Hultman pressured her to retire in December of 2020.
Meanwhile, the board has sent a separate complaint to Mark Vargo, the attorney general who Noem appointed to replace Ravnsborg, to investigate her use of state airplanes. Ravnsborg alleged that her use of the state-owned plane to fly to political events and escort family members around the state violated a state law that only allows the aircraft to be used for state business.
Vargo's office said Friday that, “to avoid even the appearance of impropriety,” he has requested Hughes County State's Attorney Jessica LaMie to oversee the Division of Criminal Investigation's work and make any charging decisions.
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This story has corrected the spelling of the name of attorney Lisa Prostrollo.
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Imagine the amount of votes they lose on this. It's not like a pro life person was banking on not voting for an R candidate unless they pushed this. Really doubling down on their stance.
Imagine the amount of votes they lose on this. It's not like a pro life person was banking on not voting for an R candidate unless they pushed this. Really doubling down on their stance.
This is an interesting play. I'm not sure Schumer will let this come to a vote. Many Americans are okay with 15 weeks. Most are against abortion after 20 or so. So they are trying to turn this into a reasonableness argument, saying that Democrats want abortion for viable babies. Birth abortion or whatever. If I'm Schumer, I'm pretty happy just letting the Republicans twist in the wind on abortion through election day.
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Voting these people into office despite their clear & obvious under qualification is a great way to own the libs. I mean sure, it's going to ruin our federal government and devalue our country globally, but think of how owned libs will be.
”How do they know how old that rock is” asked dismissively
The reply…..”they’re scientists. They just make it up”
yes, people devote their entire lives to studying an object that is probably the most common analogy for something boring or dull, just to make something up, to trick the uneducated.
Still listens to Rush Limbaugh, Trump signs in the yard.
I'm personally at a loss to what Lindsay Graham is doing. In what world does solidifying the GOP as the pro-abortion party in 2022 read as a good messaging strategy?
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Maggie three names is at it again. Just wait until she’s a committee chair in a house majority finally getting to the bottom of the witch hunt and Hunter Biden’s laptop. And Benghazi.
I'm personally at a loss to what Lindsay Graham is doing. In what world does solidifying the GOP as the pro-abortion party in 2022 read as a good messaging strategy?
It pretty clear to me.
if it’s one issue and people can address it as one issue people are overwhelmingly pro choice (look at Kansas)
when it’s combined into a platform it keeps the conservative coalition together. One issue voters on guns, taxes, abortion, white nationalism, immigration, critical race theory. If any of those other groups aren’t pro life it doesn’t matter to them and they still vote GOP as their primary issue is being addressed. They still need the pro life vote
abortion is a losing issue as a single issue. They absolutely aren’t making that mistake again if they can avoid it. Keeping it a legislative issue it’s much harder to prevent it from becoming law
in a 50/50 state with all democrats being pro choice it’s way harder to expect a pro choice Republican to actually vote for a democrat. In Kansas which is far more conservative, none of the Republican voters had to vote for an actual democrat, they voted on their position on abortion only. They will still continue to overwhelmingly vote for Republican candidates who happen to be pro life though
I'm personally at a loss to what Lindsay Graham is doing. In what world does solidifying the GOP as the pro-abortion party in 2022 read as a good messaging strategy?
It pretty clear to me.
if it’s one issue and people can address it as one issue people are overwhelmingly pro choice (look at Kansas)
when it’s combined into a platform it keeps the conservative coalition together. One issue voters on guns, taxes, abortion, white nationalism, immigration, critical race theory. If any of those other groups aren’t pro life it doesn’t matter to them and they still vote GOP as their primary issue is being addressed. They still need the pro life vote
abortion is a losing issue as a single issue. They absolutely aren’t making that mistake again if they can avoid it. Keeping it a legislative issue it’s much harder to prevent it from becoming law
in a 50/50 state with all democrats being pro choice it’s way harder to expect a pro choice Republican to actually vote for a democrat. In Kansas which is far more conservative, none of the Republican voters had to vote for an actual democrat, they voted on their position on abortion only. They will still continue to overwhelmingly vote for Republican candidates who happen to be pro life though
Is Graham not making this a referendum on pro/anti-choice by pushing a bill to restrict and unilaterally stating that this is what the GOP will do if in power after the midterm elections? As you said - in that scenario, people vote overwhelmingly pro-choice, so I'm still not seeing the logic.
On the long-term voter count impact, I hear you - anti-choice is one more cohort of single-issue voters for the GOP to have. That said, there's already an almost implicit understanding that the GOP will be the most anti-choice decision you can make. In addition, to gain that cohort will likely cost any/all pro-choice voters, and likely activate additional pro-choice voters. Just one guy's opinion - I don't think the math will show this to be a net gain in states where it matters (purple states) when all is said and done.
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I'm personally at a loss to what Lindsay Graham is doing. In what world does solidifying the GOP as the pro-abortion party in 2022 read as a good messaging strategy?
It pretty clear to me.
if it’s one issue and people can address it as one issue people are overwhelmingly pro choice (look at Kansas)
when it’s combined into a platform it keeps the conservative coalition together. One issue voters on guns, taxes, abortion, white nationalism, immigration, critical race theory. If any of those other groups aren’t pro life it doesn’t matter to them and they still vote GOP as their primary issue is being addressed. They still need the pro life vote
abortion is a losing issue as a single issue. They absolutely aren’t making that mistake again if they can avoid it. Keeping it a legislative issue it’s much harder to prevent it from becoming law
in a 50/50 state with all democrats being pro choice it’s way harder to expect a pro choice Republican to actually vote for a democrat. In Kansas which is far more conservative, none of the Republican voters had to vote for an actual democrat, they voted on their position on abortion only. They will still continue to overwhelmingly vote for Republican candidates who happen to be pro life though
Is Graham not making this a referendum on pro/anti-choice by pushing a bill to restrict and unilaterally stating that this is what the GOP will do if in power after the midterm elections? As you said - in that scenario, people vote overwhelmingly pro-choice, so I'm still not seeing the logic.
On the long-term voter count impact, I hear you - anti-choice is one more cohort of single-issue voters for the GOP to have. That said, there's already an almost implicit understanding that the GOP will be the most anti-choice decision you can make. In addition, to gain that cohort will likely cost any/all pro-choice voters, and likely activate additional pro-choice voters. Just one guy's opinion - I don't think the math will show this to be a net gain in states where it matters (purple states) when all is said and done.
I don’t think so.
no pro choice republican I know is voting democratic reguardless of how crazy republicans get on the anti abortion issues. They aren’t defined by being pro choice, they are defined by being republicans. Republicans vote for republicans not democrats.
Not making it an issue and the pro life voters may stay home though as that’s their issue and the only reason they vote. The rest of the party has their own priorities and as long as that gets addressed they are fine
In my opinion it was the only play to make
log cabin republicans still vote for republicans and the party is against everything they stand for. I guess tax policy is more important than the fact the GOP hates gay people? I see no difference in pro choice republicans. They might disagree but that isn’t changing their vote.
they aren’t deciding the abortion issue in a vacuum as they did in Kansas. That’s the point. They are weighing the abortion issue in the context of having to actively support the Democratic Party as the alternative which isn’t happening. It’s entirely different and people in Kansas did not have to do that
Americans are both pro gay rights and pro choice pretty overwhelmingly. You wouldn’t know it based on who they choose to vote for though or the laws being passed by the people they elect. That’s the disconnect
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
seriously. has there ever been a more fragile group of people in american history?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
a lot of pearl clutching and drama.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
How many parents are wishing they knew? They’re all going to regret their kid’s being pardon.
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“Extraordinary to see the finger on neutrality's scale for supremacy. What is viewed as business as usual when enacted on behalf of supremacy becomes an infraction to worry over for a week, or a "politicization" to ignore, when enacted to oppose supremacy.“
WASILLA, Alaska (AP) — Alaska U.S. House candidate Sarah Palin called on fellow Republican Nick Begich to drop out of the race Monday, holding a news conference in the same place where on a holiday weekend more than a decade ago she announced plans to resign as Alaska's governor.
“He keeps calling me a quitter," she told reporters, adding later: "And now he wants me, the one who is clearly the only true conservative in this race who can win, he wants me to quit! Now that's the real joke. Sorry, Nick. I never retreat, I reload.”
Monday was the deadline for candidates to withdraw from the November general election. Begich, who was critical of Palin during the campaign, seeking to cast her as a quitter and questioning her motives in running, said Monday his campaign is “confident that we are on a positive trajectory to win in November.”
“Ranked choice voting showed that Palin simply doesn’t have enough support from Alaskans to win an election and her performance in the Special was embarrassing as a former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate," he said in a statement Monday.
Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, and Begich lost an Aug. 16 ranked choice special election to serve the remainder of the late Republican Rep. Don Young's term to Democrat Mary Peltola. The results were tabulated Wednesday and certified Friday. Peltola led in first choice votes heading into the tabulation rounds, followed by Palin and then Begich. Begich was the candidate eliminated first.
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Of the Begich voters who ranked a second candidate, 36% chose Peltola and about 64% chose Palin.
A spokesperson for Peltola's campaign, Josh Wilson, said Peltola will be sworn in on Sept. 13.
Peltola, Palin and Begich also advanced from the August primary to the November general election, with the winner of that contest to serve a two-year term. They will be joined by Libertarian Chris Bye, after the fourth place finisher in the primary, Republican Tara Sweeney, withdrew.
Voters in 2020 approved changes to Alaska's elections process, scrapping party primaries in favor of open primaries in which the top four vote getters, regardless of party affiliation, advance to the general election, and instituting ranked voting for general elections. The special House election was the first ranked vote election under the system.
Palin's news conference at her lakeside home in Wasilla Monday was interrupted at points by the noise from floatplanes passing by.
She again defended her decision to resign as governor in July 2009, a decision she announced July 3 that year. She said Monday that being governor was a job she wanted to have but resigning was the “right thing.” She cited in part ethics complaints that she said were frivolous and had become distractions.
Begich last week questioned Palin's ability to win an election and she urged him to drop out, a call she reiterated Monday.
Palin said it would make “no sense” for her to drop out. If Begich doesn't withdraw, “then you'll be able to see us not just talking the talk but walking the walk that we've not yet begun to fight," she said.
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Bohrer reported from Juneau, Alaska.
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SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem asked a state ethics board to dismiss a complaint against her without a public hearing and to seal off certain records, documents released Friday by the state’s Government Accountability Board show.
The Republican governor, who is widely seen as eyeing a 2024 White House bid, argued in an April motion that the state's attorney general, a fellow Republican who filed the complaint, was out for political retribution and should be removed from the complaint. Noem had pushed former Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg to resign and later for his impeachment over his involvement in a fatal car crash.
The attorney general's complaint was sparked by a report from The Associated Press last year that Noem had taken a hands-on role in a state agency. Shortly after the agency moved to deny her daughter, Kassidy Peters, a real estate appraiser license in July of 2020, Noem held a meeting with Peters and key decision-makers in her licensure. Days after the meeting, Peters signed an agreement that gave her another opportunity to meet the licensing requirements.
The South Dakota Legislature's audit committee, controlled by Republicans, unanimously approved a report in May that found Noem's daughter got preferential treatment.
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The records released Friday provided some new insight into an inquiry that the Government Accountability Board has conducted mostly in secret for nearly a year. The three retired judges who evaluated the ethics complaint unanimously found last month that there was enough evidence for them to believe that Noem “engaged in misconduct" by committing malfeasance and a conflict of interest.
The board has said “appropriate action” would be taken against Noem, though it didn’t specify the action. It's also not clear whether Noem will request a contested case hearing before the board to publicly defend herself against the allegations.
Neither her office nor her campaign said Friday whether she will proceed to a public hearing. She has continued to publicly insist that she did nothing wrong.
The records show that Noem, in a 29-page motion to the board, launched a range of arguments for dismissing the complaint. Her attorney, Lisa Prostrollo, mocked Ravnsborg's allegations as “nonsensical," a “political attack” and based on “far-fetched conspiracy theories.”
The motion argues Noem's daughter joined the July 2020 meeting to provide her perspective as an applicant and attempts to defend how that was appropriate while she was facing a denial of her license. Government ethics experts have said the timing and circumstances of the meeting created a clear conflict of interest for the governor.
Noem's attorney argued that the Government Accountability Board did not have the constitutional power to act against the governor or evaluate the complaint against her. And the lawyer suggested that Ravnsborg, who had been forced from office, be removed from the complaint and replaced with the deputy attorney general who was overseeing the office at the time.
The board in August denied Noem's motion. However, it did appear to later pay some heed to Noem's requests. It dismissed two of Ravnsborg's allegations that she misused public funds, and sealed off certain records from being released.
Ravnbsorg suggested that the board launch a full investigation into the episode by hiring a Minneapolis law firm. However, the board appears ready to settle the matter. It closed the complaint and has so far kept it a secret what “action” it may take against the governor, though it has suggested the complaint could be reopened later.
The secrecy of the board's potential action against the governor has prompted some criticism from government ethics experts who say the board should be transparent.
“I would hope that they would make public their plan of action as soon as possible,” Karen Soli, a former Democratic state lawmaker who helped create the board, told the AP last month.
Noem also made a motion to strike certain documents from the record, but it is not clear what those records were because the board did not release that motion. The board's attorney, Mark Haigh, said the motion was not released because it contained the list of redacted records.
The board previously voted to redact records that “contain privileged information” related to a state fund for paying litigation. The agency's former director, Sherry Bren, received a $200,000 payment from the fund to settle an age discrimination complaint she filed after Labor Secretary Marcia Hultman pressured her to retire in December of 2020.
Meanwhile, the board has sent a separate complaint to Mark Vargo, the attorney general who Noem appointed to replace Ravnsborg, to investigate her use of state airplanes. Ravnsborg alleged that her use of the state-owned plane to fly to political events and escort family members around the state violated a state law that only allows the aircraft to be used for state business.
Vargo's office said Friday that, “to avoid even the appearance of impropriety,” he has requested Hughes County State's Attorney Jessica LaMie to oversee the Division of Criminal Investigation's work and make any charging decisions.
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This story has corrected the spelling of the name of attorney Lisa Prostrollo.
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Voting these people into office despite their clear & obvious under qualification is a great way to own the libs. I mean sure, it's going to ruin our federal government and devalue our country globally, but think of how owned libs will be.
”How do they know how old that rock is” asked dismissively
The reply…..”they’re scientists. They just make it up”
yes, people devote their entire lives to studying an object that is probably the most common analogy for something boring or dull, just to make something up, to trick the uneducated.
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if it’s one issue and people can address it as one issue people are overwhelmingly pro choice (look at Kansas)
when it’s combined into a platform it keeps the conservative coalition together. One issue voters on guns, taxes, abortion, white nationalism, immigration, critical race theory. If any of those other groups aren’t pro life it doesn’t matter to them and they still vote GOP as their primary issue is being addressed. They still need the pro life vote
abortion is a losing issue as a single issue. They absolutely aren’t making that mistake again if they can avoid it. Keeping it a legislative issue it’s much harder to prevent it from becoming law
in a 50/50 state with all democrats being pro choice it’s way harder to expect a pro choice Republican to actually vote for a democrat. In Kansas which is far more conservative, none of the Republican voters had to vote for an actual democrat, they voted on their position on abortion only. They will still continue to overwhelmingly vote for Republican candidates who happen to be pro life though
On the long-term voter count impact, I hear you - anti-choice is one more cohort of single-issue voters for the GOP to have. That said, there's already an almost implicit understanding that the GOP will be the most anti-choice decision you can make. In addition, to gain that cohort will likely cost any/all pro-choice voters, and likely activate additional pro-choice voters. Just one guy's opinion - I don't think the math will show this to be a net gain in states where it matters (purple states) when all is said and done.
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no pro choice republican I know is voting democratic reguardless of how crazy republicans get on the anti abortion issues. They aren’t defined by being pro choice, they are defined by being republicans. Republicans vote for republicans not democrats.
Not making it an issue and the pro life voters may stay home though as that’s their issue and the only reason they vote. The rest of the party has their own priorities and as long as that gets addressed they are fine
log cabin republicans still vote for republicans and the party is against everything they stand for. I guess tax policy is more important than the fact the GOP hates gay people? I see no difference in pro choice republicans. They might disagree but that isn’t changing their vote.
they aren’t deciding the abortion issue in a vacuum as they did in Kansas. That’s the point. They are weighing the abortion issue in the context of having to actively support the Democratic Party as the alternative which isn’t happening. It’s entirely different and people in Kansas did not have to do that
Americans are both pro gay rights and pro choice pretty overwhelmingly. You wouldn’t know it based on who they choose to vote for though or the laws being passed by the people they elect. That’s the disconnect