Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
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Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Such as?
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
These cities could be operating with a budget surplus and still want to cut from law enforcement. They don’t like cops; hence the de-funding movement.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Such as?
Social programs, obviously.
Specifically, public education. Everyone knows teachers are overpaid for what they do, summers off, 6 hour day, etc. Plus, what’s more socialist than public education, brain washing our youth?
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Such as?
Social programs, obviously.
Specifically, public education. Everyone knows teachers are overpaid for what they do, summers off, 6 hour day, etc. Plus, what’s more socialist than public education, brain washing our youth?
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
Such as?
I m not a politician but I would not want my local police force to be defunded in any way.
Police station set on fire last night in Portland. Good stuff. The chaos in these democratic cities is what will help Trump win. Way to go. Really making a big difference 👍🏼
I understand people becoming incensed when something like this happens. No reason this guy couldn't just be tased. Fortunately he wasn't killed, though I believe he's still in the ICU.
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
So because they didn’t get the response desired from “white America”, it totally makes sense to undermine the whole cause...seems logical... If organized BLM is supporting these actions, I sure as hell am not going to donate anything to them. Black lives matter, but #BLM as an entity, does not to me anymore. They lost me when they came out in support of the Chiraq riots.
People who are arguing that the money for improved social programs shouldn't come from reducing police budgets are completely missing the point, which is the importance of correcting the vast imbalance in a funding system that prioritizes enforcement and punishment over prevention. Many of these communities are actually over-policed and aggressively policed, with an extreme focus on petty issues that we see flare up into violence far too often. The point of the reallocation is to correct this imbalance, not randomly cut some other area of budget.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
riots are the language of the unheard. they are a symptoms of the underlying problem that cops execute unarmed african americans for no reason, and nothing ever changes. it just keeps happening every week. until you address the actual problem, things are going to get burned down.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
riots are the language of the unheard. they are a symptoms of the underlying problem that cops execute unarmed african americans for no reason, and nothing ever changes. it just keeps happening every week. until you address the actual problem, things are going to get burned down.
I personally think it's ridiculous to think this is all ok. The lack of leaders speaking against the violence and destruction is not shocking but extremely disappointing.
I certainly agree with the premise...that cops stop black too often and they face police violence too often...etc, etc, etc
But not every situation is the same. I think some people really just want to burn shit and finding an excuse. Think they are social justice warriors when really just vandals and criminals. Seems like we should be able to find the line between doing nothing and burning everything.
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In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
riots are the language of the unheard. they are a symptoms of the underlying problem that cops execute unarmed african americans for no reason, and nothing ever changes. it just keeps happening every week. until you address the actual problem, things are going to get burned down.
I personally think it's ridiculous to think this is all ok. The lack of leaders speaking against the violence and destruction is not shocking but extremely disappointing.
I certainly agree with the premise...that cops stop black too often and they face police violence too often...etc, etc, etc
But not every situation is the same. I think some people really just want to burn shit and finding an excuse. Think they are social justice warriors when really just vandals and criminals. Seems like we should be able to find the line between doing nothing and burning everything.
I understand both your perspectives.
On the one hand, when no one is listening, I can see why the oppressed would lash out.
On the other hand, random looting and destruction doesn't seem like a very effective means of accomplishing change.
And after watching since the early 60's (when I was old enough to care) systemic racism continue despite efforts of all kinds to create change, then I think we have to expect anger to erupt in violence... and that sucks on so many levels. It leaves me feeling like there is no end to this. No end to racism. No end to stupidity. No end to hate. No end to oppression. Fucking humans. That's how it feels sometimes. And that sucks because negative attitudes don't do a damn thing.
So what is the answer? You got me.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I understand people becoming incensed when something like this happens. No reason this guy couldn't just be tased. Fortunately he wasn't killed, though I believe he's still in the ICU.
Does looting help the situation, no, but did you watch the video? After everything that has gone down since George Floyd, there are so many people who are driven to burning down cities because they are tired of this shit. Fix the systemic problem so people aren't being pushed to the brink. Fucking ridiculous to shot a man point blank seven times in the back.
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People who are arguing that the money for improved social programs shouldn't come from reducing police budgets are completely missing the point, which is the importance of correcting the vast imbalance in a funding system that prioritizes enforcement and punishment over prevention. Many of these communities are actually over-policed and aggressively policed, with an extreme focus on petty issues that we see flare up into violence far too often. The point of the reallocation is to correct this imbalance, not randomly cut some other area of budget.
Yes, yes, yes. Well said.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
Wait until law enforcement budget cuts are really felt. The party is just getting started.
Cutting law enforcement budgets could possibly be the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Why would you want to cut from them? Same with firefighters and emt, don’t cut from them. Cut from somewhere else.
I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
Don’t take from the police, find the money somewhere else.
These cities could be operating with a budget surplus and still want to cut from law enforcement. They don’t like cops; hence the de-funding movement.
In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
Yeah I had no problem with Kaepernick kneeling and didn't really see what the big deal was. My argument in favor of it was that just a month prior to him starting that, a half-dozen or so cops were shot and killed at a BLM demonstration in Texas. So if protest A is killing cops, and protest B is kneeling when it's traditional to stand, obviously protest B is the way to go. That said, whether people accepted it or not, nothing was going to come from athletes kneeling. And nothing will come from anything Lebron James and the NBA does. It would take something more extreme (peaceful, but extreme) like maybe all the black players refusing to play...or something like that...to get people's attention.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
riots are the language of the unheard. they are a symptoms of the underlying problem that cops execute unarmed african americans for no reason, and nothing ever changes. it just keeps happening every week. until you address the actual problem, things are going to get burned down.
I personally think it's ridiculous to think this is all ok. The lack of leaders speaking against the violence and destruction is not shocking but extremely disappointing.
I certainly agree with the premise...that cops stop black too often and they face police violence too often...etc, etc, etc
But not every situation is the same. I think some people really just want to burn shit and finding an excuse. Think they are social justice warriors when really just vandals and criminals. Seems like we should be able to find the line between doing nothing and burning everything.
i don't think anybody thinks that it is ok. but if we keep doing what we have been doing since Rodney King, which is absolutely nothing, then be prepared for shit to burn down. people are sick and tired of being sick and tired at nothing ever changing. at some point, systemic changes need to be made, and we are way past that point.
how many bodies is it going to take before we make a change?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
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I mostly agree as well. However, I have heard some good arguments for redistributing the money that goes to police forces by shifting resources to drug rehabilitation, etc. The idea is that if we could reduce crime through effective human services agencies, we would need less law enforcement.
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Makes sense to me too.
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But this stuff doesn't really help matters.
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In fairness however, some black athletes tried to peacefully bring attention to this issue a few years back and white America wasn’t having that either, so... 🤷♂️
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If organized BLM is supporting these actions, I sure as hell am not going to donate anything to them.
Black lives matter, but #BLM as an entity, does not to me anymore. They lost me when they came out in support of the Chiraq riots.
It sucks that we can't find an adequate way to protest the killings of unarmed citizens by out of control police officers in order to get the rest of America to realize it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I certainly agree with the premise...that cops stop black too often and they face police violence too often...etc, etc, etc
But not every situation is the same. I think some people really just want to burn shit and finding an excuse. Think they are social justice warriors when really just vandals and criminals. Seems like we should be able to find the line between doing nothing and burning everything.
how many bodies is it going to take before we make a change?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."