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on2legs said:People have gotten SE posters signed by the artist after the fact. It doesn’t make them an AP. Just a signed SE. I know someone here recently posted a photo of a Munk One Pitt that they got signed at a convention.
Sounds about right... the AP are the ones allotted to the artist to sell.In this case, Role Models bought his on the spot from Ames and it was signed in person, rather than buying it from their website.
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Agreed.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
I think a sign that that’s been done is there’s no #, just a sigon2legs said:People have gotten SE posters signed by the artist after the fact. It doesn’t make them an AP. Just a signed SE. I know someone here recently posted a photo of a Munk One Pitt that they got signed at a convention.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0 -
My understanding is that if the stack of 400 or however many were printed in the 1996-98 era didn't sell out at the venue, they were returned to the artist, signed and numbered, and then made available to 10c members.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Gotcha I understand. Makes me curious about pre-website shows then. I know my 96’s aren’t signed I don’t think, but was there any such thing as an AP back in the day?Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
I have an AP x/200 of the other one, which is an RV. There was also an ACL festival poster by Ames with both SEs and APs. I believe the Shawn Kemp 2009 was a similar situation -- sold at the venue at a separate Ames table and S/N x/500. There was a 2nd poster for those shows that had the typical SE and AP version (surfing sasquatch was one).RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Also, an FYI -that acl poster wasn’t sold with other merch, the Ames cowboy one I’m talking about was sold only at their table where they signed it when you bought it- we weren’t buying it at the merch tent and then bringing it over to them to sign, they made it specifically to sign/sell at their tent. There was another Ames PJ poster from the same event that they weren’t signing it was sold at the merch tent. Same show, 2 posters, one signed ap201/500, one not signed. Not sure what the hell any of that means, but I hadn’t seen it before and it was kinda weird.Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
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Right on, thanks for the info. Shit’s confusing! Didn’t mean to start shit, was just responding to the post saying AP’s were only sold online. I think that’s correct, I just got an outlier I suppose!SHZA said:
My understanding is that if the stack of 400 or however many were printed in the 1996-98 era didn't sell out at the venue, they were returned to the artist, signed and numbered, and then made available to 10c members.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Gotcha I understand. Makes me curious about pre-website shows then. I know my 96’s aren’t signed I don’t think, but was there any such thing as an AP back in the day?Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
I have an AP x/200 of the other one, which is an RV. There was also an ACL festival poster by Ames with both SEs and APs. I believe the Shawn Kemp 2009 was a similar situation -- sold at the venue at a separate Ames table and S/N x/500. There was a 2nd poster for those shows that had the typical SE and AP version (surfing sasquatch was one).RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Also, an FYI -that acl poster wasn’t sold with other merch, the Ames cowboy one I’m talking about was sold only at their table where they signed it when you bought it- we weren’t buying it at the merch tent and then bringing it over to them to sign, they made it specifically to sign/sell at their tent. There was another Ames PJ poster from the same event that they weren’t signing it was sold at the merch tent. Same show, 2 posters, one signed ap201/500, one not signed. Not sure what the hell any of that means, but I hadn’t seen it before and it was kinda weird.Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
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Have they ever dropped prints this late in the day?0
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Maybe they're waiting for all of Hamilton to be sold - buy 'em up everyone!Camden, NJ 06 - Columbia, SC 08 - Washington D.C. 08 - Philadelphia, PA 09 - Bristow, VA 10 - Hartford, CT 10 - NYC, NY 10 - Alpine Valley, WI 11 - Baltimore, MD 13 - Ottawa, ON 20 - Baltimore, MD 20 - St. Louis, MO 200
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Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...0
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I bought it too, I like it a lotPB10037 said:Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...Camden, NJ 06 - Columbia, SC 08 - Washington D.C. 08 - Philadelphia, PA 09 - Bristow, VA 10 - Hartford, CT 10 - NYC, NY 10 - Alpine Valley, WI 11 - Baltimore, MD 13 - Ottawa, ON 20 - Baltimore, MD 20 - St. Louis, MO 200 -
I think it's pretty sweet, not sure why people are hating on it.PB10037 said:Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...0 -
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I think it's pretty sweet, not sure why people are hating on it.PB10037 said:Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...
Same... I love it.0 -
I grabbed one. Your not the only onePB10037 said:Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...1996.....Toronto
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
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That’s probably it, 10c must have thousands of posters to pack and ship already and there are plenty more to goKearn5y said:
Probably because they have alot of shipping too before the next ones are releasedJB274988 said:Maybe they're waiting for all of Hamilton to be sold - buy 'em up everyone!0 -
There is some examples of show edition posters sold at the merch table that were signed and numbered, but they were not APs. The example that comes to mind is one of all time fav posters, which is the Hamilton 2005 poster by Brad Klausen. They were s/n /1050 and he had the APs which he sold online which were also s/n but out of /100.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Right on, thanks for the info. Shit’s confusing! Didn’t mean to start shit, was just responding to the post saying AP’s were only sold online. I think that’s correct, I just got an outlier I suppose!SHZA said:
My understanding is that if the stack of 400 or however many were printed in the 1996-98 era didn't sell out at the venue, they were returned to the artist, signed and numbered, and then made available to 10c members.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Gotcha I understand. Makes me curious about pre-website shows then. I know my 96’s aren’t signed I don’t think, but was there any such thing as an AP back in the day?Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
I have an AP x/200 of the other one, which is an RV. There was also an ACL festival poster by Ames with both SEs and APs. I believe the Shawn Kemp 2009 was a similar situation -- sold at the venue at a separate Ames table and S/N x/500. There was a 2nd poster for those shows that had the typical SE and AP version (surfing sasquatch was one).RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Also, an FYI -that acl poster wasn’t sold with other merch, the Ames cowboy one I’m talking about was sold only at their table where they signed it when you bought it- we weren’t buying it at the merch tent and then bringing it over to them to sign, they made it specifically to sign/sell at their tent. There was another Ames PJ poster from the same event that they weren’t signing it was sold at the merch tent. Same show, 2 posters, one signed ap201/500, one not signed. Not sure what the hell any of that means, but I hadn’t seen it before and it was kinda weird.Merkin Baller said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Again, I’ll take a pic so you can see- my portfolio is in storage since I’m moving soon- but I made a note on ebeans for myself that it’s signed “ap201/500”. Maybe they fucked up on mine though?SHZA said:
1st edition on ebeans is synonymous with show edition.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
There’s only one edition of that poster, it wasn’t sold anywhere else. 500, all signed by Ames at the show, no SE, they just call it the “1st edition” on ebeansCopperTom said:
That's a signed SE. Not an AP.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Ames signed my acl PJ 2008 at the gig. They had a tent.SHZA said:
No you weren't. The APs have never been sold at the venue. Always online drops where you're fighting with everyone worldwide.405OK said:
Agreed. However, I was referring to the APs. My expectation is to purchase from the shop, but I still have my hopes up for one of the few s/n..SHZA said:
Judging by how long Hamilton has been available and STL was available before selling out, you're not going to have to fight anyone to get an OKC poster if you want it. It'll be much easier than standing in line for hours at the arena.405OK said:Here’s what’s frustrating for me:
Using OKC for example, if the show had happened, I’d have the potential to get the OKC poster along with just those there at the show.Now, with with an online release, I’ve got to fight with everyone worldwide for the same poster. The fact that others now have the same access significantly diminishes my chances of getting the poster to the event that I actually had tickets to.Frustrating, but I totally get it. Almost makes me want to jump in and purchase posters to other shows I wouldn’t have gone to so that if I miss out on OKC, I may have some trading equity.Traditionally, the AP versions are sold exclusively through the artist's website, and they are usually signed and / or numbered. The signature is what makes the difference.
It's not wrong to say APs aren't typically available at shows... your show was an outlier where the artist was there signing prints. His signature turned a SE into an AP.
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I grabbed one too. I only get posters to shows I've been to or in this case had tickets to. It's not my favourite but It's definitely not as bad as TO N1 2016 and I still bought that one.D-Rod said:
I grabbed one. Your not the only onePB10037 said:Bought my Hamilton! I guess I'm the only one who likes the art on that one...0 -
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Good question. Not to my recollection. I have a bad memory thoVitalogensia said:Have they ever dropped prints this late in the day?5/3/92 Omaha, NE
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