2021 European Tour Announcement

InsideJob75

Getting in touch with a ticket company isn’t going to help. 

Ticket companies have nothing to do with shows-they are only the sellers of tickets. 

The promoters control the knowledge.

Tjm007

exile said:

Sent message about london show yesterday . Here is the reply i am after getting >>
Re: pearl jam concert
Thank you for contacting AXS.

This event is still going ahead as planned. If this was to change you will be notified via email. You can also check our
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If an event is cancelled you will be refunded automatically back to the account used to purchase the tickets.

If an event is postponed your tickets will usually be available for the rescheduled date. If you can't attend the event on a rescheduled date please contact us to request a refund.

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Well - all Covid restrictions are being lifted in the Uk in June - so why wouldn't it go ahead ?

BlueLedbetter

Is the refund deadline end of this month? Surely we hear one way or another by then ?

JackD.

BlueLedbetter said:

Is the refund deadline end of this month? Surely we hear one way or another by then ?

1st April. Makes sense, but I wouldn‘t be very surprised if not......

abzmike

Tjm007 said:

exile said:

Sent message about london show yesterday . Here is the reply i am after getting >>
Re: pearl jam concert
Thank you for contacting AXS.

This event is still going ahead as planned. If this was to change you will be notified via email. You can also check our
Help Centre and Social Media: Twitter and Facebook for the latest updates.

If an event is cancelled you will be refunded automatically back to the account used to purchase the tickets.

If an event is postponed your tickets will usually be available for the rescheduled date. If you can't attend the event on a rescheduled date please contact us to request a refund.

Kind regards,

Well - all Covid restrictions are being lifted in the Uk in June - so why wouldn't it go ahead ?

There is no certainty about all restrictions being lifted in June, the way in which large events need to operate, how many people will be able to attend is still to be determined. It is the uncertainty that is the issue.

raindog80

Tjm007 said:

exile said:

Sent message about london show yesterday . Here is the reply i am after getting >>
Re: pearl jam concert
Thank you for contacting AXS.

This event is still going ahead as planned. If this was to change you will be notified via email. You can also check our
Help Centre and Social Media: Twitter and Facebook for the latest updates.

If an event is cancelled you will be refunded automatically back to the account used to purchase the tickets.

If an event is postponed your tickets will usually be available for the rescheduled date. If you can't attend the event on a rescheduled date please contact us to request a refund.

Kind regards,

Well - all Covid restrictions are being lifted in the Uk in June - so why wouldn't it go ahead ?

Do you live in this world?

CB254133

raindog80 said:

Tjm007 said:

Well - all Covid restrictions are being lifted in the Uk in June - so why wouldn't it go ahead ?

Do you live in this world?

In the UK the R rate is down to below well 1 (ie the pandemic is shrinking), the number of new cases are plummeting (BBC news language not mine) and hospital admissions and COVID deaths are declining relieving the pressure on the NHS.  The only COVID number rapidly rising is the number of vaccinated people.  

If (granted a f***ing big IF!) current government plans proceed as expected there will be no social distancing restrictions in the UK on the BST weekend.  Also there are plans being made to bring back crowds to live sporting events including 20,000 for the FA Cup final at Wembley in May, I know that sporting events are different from concerts but all indicators for the UK are going in the right direction.  The UK mood music is to get back to a new normal against a COVID background that we have to learn to live with.  

Personally I think that a BST event on the 9/10 July will go ahead but wouldn't bet on what that will look like, the size of the crowd or even if PJ will play.

Gravey1975

The biggest sticking point could well be the availability/inclination of PJ to play BST. Even if the UK hits all of its milestones and there is no social distancing by July, are the band really likely to play just 2 shows out of its entire Euro tour? Will the band feel that it's safe enough for themselves, their crew and their foreign fans, all of which will have to travel from/through countries that perhaps aren't as in control of COVID? I think that might be the bigger blocker than the UK's R rate at this point. 

JackD.

Gravey1975 said:

The biggest sticking point could well be the availability/inclination of PJ to play BST. Even if the UK hits all of its milestones and there is no social distancing by July, are the band really likely to play just 2 shows out of its entire Euro tour? Will the band feel that it's safe enough for themselves, their crew and their foreign fans, all of which will have to travel from/through countries that perhaps aren't as in control of COVID? I think that might be the bigger blocker than the UK's R rate at this point. 

Exactly. I‘d bet some money that PJ already called it off. Would be nice to hear from the band though.

BlueLedbetter

JackD. said:

Gravey1975 said:

The biggest sticking point could well be the availability/inclination of PJ to play BST. Even if the UK hits all of its milestones and there is no social distancing by July, are the band really likely to play just 2 shows out of its entire Euro tour? Will the band feel that it's safe enough for themselves, their crew and their foreign fans, all of which will have to travel from/through countries that perhaps aren't as in control of COVID? I think that might be the bigger blocker than the UK's R rate at this point. 

Exactly. I‘d bet some money that PJ already called it off. Would be nice to hear from the band though.

Id be surprised if this wasn't the case 

RatherStarved

PJ has a lot of bargaining power but I would be surprised if even they have veto rights if the government deems it safe and the organizers want to proceed.  

I could absolutely see them doing BST as planned and deferring the other shows until next year.  

Tjm007

JackD. said:

Gravey1975 said:

The biggest sticking point could well be the availability/inclination of PJ to play BST. Even if the UK hits all of its milestones and there is no social distancing by July, are the band really likely to play just 2 shows out of its entire Euro tour? Will the band feel that it's safe enough for themselves, their crew and their foreign fans, all of which will have to travel from/through countries that perhaps aren't as in control of COVID? I think that might be the bigger blocker than the UK's R rate at this point. 

Exactly. I‘d bet some money that PJ already called it off. Would be nice to hear from the band though.

PJ pulling out and the event going ahead will cost them a few quid - breaking a contract.

JackD.

RatherStarved said:

PJ has a lot of bargaining power but I would be surprised if even they have veto rights if the government deems it safe and the organizers want to proceed.  

I could absolutely see them doing BST as planned and deferring the other shows until next year.  

I think if the organizers of BST want PJ to play ever again at any of their festivals, they‘d better grant their wishes and not pressure them
to fulfill contracts.

Tjm007

raindog80 said:

Tjm007 said:

exile said:

Sent message about london show yesterday . Here is the reply i am after getting >>
Re: pearl jam concert
Thank you for contacting AXS.

This event is still going ahead as planned. If this was to change you will be notified via email. You can also check our
Help Centre and Social Media: Twitter and Facebook for the latest updates.

If an event is cancelled you will be refunded automatically back to the account used to purchase the tickets.

If an event is postponed your tickets will usually be available for the rescheduled date. If you can't attend the event on a rescheduled date please contact us to request a refund.

Kind regards,

Well - all Covid restrictions are being lifted in the Uk in June - so why wouldn't it go ahead ?

Do you live in this world?

In the Uk, by June, all adults will have been vaccinated. 

What else is left to do - we can't wear masks and shut pubs and stadiums and block borders indefinitely. The Uk needs to get back to normality. 

JPPJ84

Glen Hansard/ The Frames just rescheduled their Dublin show to 2022. it was supposed to be in June

BlueLedbetter

The issue as I see it is the June date is a "not before" not a guarantee if its delayed for any reason then the shows could be pulled very late with more costs already incurred. For that reason I think it will be pushed back if that's to September or 2022 I have no idea 

RatherStarved

JackD. said:

RatherStarved said:

PJ has a lot of bargaining power but I would be surprised if even they have veto rights if the government deems it safe and the organizers want to proceed.  

I could absolutely see them doing BST as planned and deferring the other shows until next year.  

I think if the organizers of BST want PJ to play ever again at any of their festivals, they‘d better grant their wishes and not pressure them
to fulfill contracts.

Why do you assume PJ would be opposed to playing if it is safe? That’s what they do.  And the contract for BST 2021, having been entered into during COVID times, would almost certainly address how to handle a disagreement between the parties on safety in a professional way.  It’s not going to be an “if you don’t agree with me I’m taking away my toys forever” situation.  

beano.79

RatherStarved said:

JackD. said:

RatherStarved said:

PJ has a lot of bargaining power but I would be surprised if even they have veto rights if the government deems it safe and the organizers want to proceed.  

I could absolutely see them doing BST as planned and deferring the other shows until next year.  

I think if the organizers of BST want PJ to play ever again at any of their festivals, they‘d better grant their wishes and not pressure them
to fulfill contracts.

Why do you assume PJ would be opposed to playing if it is safe? That’s what they do.  And the contract for BST 2021, having been entered into during COVID times, would almost certainly address how to handle a disagreement between the parties on safety in a professional way.  It’s not going to be an “if you don’t agree with me I’m taking away my toys forever” situation.  

I also think why wouldn't they want to play if it was safe?

They get to play in front of a festival size crowd for 2 nights. Which will feel special.

I imagine their booking fee is rather substantial and would be a welcome payday for the crew and all involved.

It's a festival set up so the stage and facilities will be ready and waiting.

IF it's safe of course.

Tjm007

BlueLedbetter said:

The issue as I see it is the June date is a "not before" not a guarantee if its delayed for any reason then the shows could be pulled very late with more costs already incurred. For that reason I think it will be pushed back if that's to September or 2022 I have no idea 

Numbers are welll down on the predictions made when the date was set. If anything the pressure will be to bring dates forward.

JackD.

RatherStarved said:

JackD. said:

RatherStarved said:

PJ has a lot of bargaining power but I would be surprised if even they have veto rights if the government deems it safe and the organizers want to proceed.  

I could absolutely see them doing BST as planned and deferring the other shows until next year.  

I think if the organizers of BST want PJ to play ever again at any of their festivals, they‘d better grant their wishes and not pressure them
to fulfill contracts.

Why do you assume PJ would be opposed to playing if it is safe? That’s what they do.  And the contract for BST 2021, having been entered into during COVID times, would almost certainly address how to handle a disagreement between the parties on safety in a professional way.  It’s not going to be an “if you don’t agree with me I’m taking away my toys forever” situation.  

There have been quite a few arguments above. The strongest imho is that PJ is a very cautious band who cares about their fans. Especially their physical well-being.

Who cares if UK lifts their regulations but most of the fans travel from abroad, where vaccines, free travel and overall safety is far behind the UK?

So PJ would either risk the well-being of non-UK fans attending the shows or they would screw non-UK ticketholders over their ticket price because they can‘t make it to the shows because of restricted international travel.

Don‘t shoot the messenger, but these UK shows are not going ahead as scheduled with certainty of 100%.