George Floyd Protests

Gern Blansten

Bentleyspop said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

I lived in the Colorado mountains for 4 years with bears being an almost daily occurrence and the occasional mtn. lion. Never felt the need to carry. Ran, biked, and or hiked on a daily basis. Never needed to carry.
Also lived in Balt. City near the end of the crack wars. Never felt the need to carry.
Living in fear is no way to live.

But you would agree that someone who is not as experienced as you in those situations might feel the need to carry a weapon to fight off a bear right? I mean we've all seen the Revenant.

Gern Blansten

This rightwing fuckhead on the stand is a fucking douchebag. 

tempo_n_groove

Bentleyspop said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

I lived in the Colorado mountains for 4 years with bears being an almost daily occurrence and the occasional mtn. lion. Never felt the need to carry. Ran, biked, and or hiked on a daily basis. Never needed to carry.
Also lived in Balt. City near the end of the crack wars. Never felt the need to carry.
Living in fear is no way to live.

Gern Blansten said:

Bentleyspop said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

I lived in the Colorado mountains for 4 years with bears being an almost daily occurrence and the occasional mtn. lion. Never felt the need to carry. Ran, biked, and or hiked on a daily basis. Never needed to carry.
Also lived in Balt. City near the end of the crack wars. Never felt the need to carry.
Living in fear is no way to live.

But you would agree that someone who is not as experienced as you in those situations might feel the need to carry a weapon to fight off a bear right? I mean we've all see the Revenant.

I've hiked Alaska, California, Texas, AZ, you name it.  I wanted to carry in AZ because I could.  I don't live in fear either.  Man this horse is getting righteous...

Edit: Went hiking in Iraq, Jordan and Dubai without a sidearm too.  Boo.

Bentleyspop

Gern Blansten said:

Bentleyspop said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

I lived in the Colorado mountains for 4 years with bears being an almost daily occurrence and the occasional mtn. lion. Never felt the need to carry. Ran, biked, and or hiked on a daily basis. Never needed to carry.
Also lived in Balt. City near the end of the crack wars. Never felt the need to carry.
Living in fear is no way to live.

But you would agree that someone who is not as experienced as you in those situations might feel the need to carry a weapon to fight off a bear right? I mean we've all seen the Revenant.

As I was told early on...if the bear or lion is that close it's  too late.
But yes with a gun you have at least a fighting chance.

tempo_n_groove

Waiting on hiking lessons now...Bentleyspop said:

Gern Blansten said:

Bentleyspop said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

I lived in the Colorado mountains for 4 years with bears being an almost daily occurrence and the occasional mtn. lion. Never felt the need to carry. Ran, biked, and or hiked on a daily basis. Never needed to carry.
Also lived in Balt. City near the end of the crack wars. Never felt the need to carry.
Living in fear is no way to live.

But you would agree that someone who is not as experienced as you in those situations might feel the need to carry a weapon to fight off a bear right? I mean we've all seen the Revenant.

As I was told early on...if the bear or lion is that close it's  too late.
But yes with a gun you have at least a fighting chance.

Hiking in Sequoia I was making noise w my water bottle and jingling my keys.  My GF didn't understand why.  She said "nothing is going to get us" which I replied, that is the idea.

Hobbes

I support the right to arm bears.

cblock4life

nicknyr15 said:

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t feel a thing for him or the victims. It’s amazing how even this, is a political battle of left vs right. What a shame.

No you’re not.  Anyone out there that night who wasn’t protesting peacefully was there for the wrong reasons.  I don’t care what side you’re on or who you voted for, gun in hand (which they all had correct?) during times like this, you’re looking for trouble.  So I don’t feel a thing for them as well. 

Gern Blansten

cblock4life said:

nicknyr15 said:

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t feel a thing for him or the victims. It’s amazing how even this, is a political battle of left vs right. What a shame.

No you’re not.  Anyone out there that night who wasn’t protesting peacefully was there for the wrong reasons.  I don’t care what side you’re on or who you voted for, gun in hand (which they all had correct?) during times like this, you’re looking for trouble.  So I don’t feel a thing for them as well. 

The one victim said he thought Rittenhouse was an active shooter....that doesn't change your mind?

mickeyrat

so the reason he was there was to protect businesses, correct?

am curious why he seemed to be "on patrol" as opposed to "manning a post"

Gern Blansten

mickeyrat said:

so the reason he was there was to protect businesses, correct?

am curious why he seemed to be "on patrol" as opposed to "manning a post"

I believe he left the dealership that he was "protecting" because someone called him for help to put out a dumpster fire that someone had started. The police wouldn't let him pass to go back to the dealership so he ended up somewhere else...at a different dealership it turns out, and shot the first guy.  Then he started running because people were chasing him to alert police that he was the shooter.  

cblock4life

Gern Blansten said:

cblock4life said:

nicknyr15 said:

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t feel a thing for him or the victims. It’s amazing how even this, is a political battle of left vs right. What a shame.

No you’re not.  Anyone out there that night who wasn’t protesting peacefully was there for the wrong reasons.  I don’t care what side you’re on or who you voted for, gun in hand (which they all had correct?) during times like this, you’re looking for trouble.  So I don’t feel a thing for them as well. 

The one victim said he thought Rittenhouse was an active shooter....that doesn't change your mind?

Oh please don’t get me wrong, the kids was wrong and has to serve some kind of time for sure, but the surviving victim also indicated he was there to help medically so why carry or at the very least keep it holstered. He claims he wasn’t there to “citizen arrest” (my words not his) anyone.  I understand carrying for safety but I really question his reason for being there. 

I also take issue with him looking at the jury every time he answered a question when someone on here claimed Rittenhouse did that as well.  Is it true you have to look directly at who asked you the question?  I don’t know the law.  I just think all medical personnel should firstly “do no harm” just like the oath doctors take. 
I think all are to blame. There’s always 3 sides to every story - his, his, and the truth.
 I also think I’m just numb to the extent of not giving a crap anymore.  

Gern Blansten

One piece of evidence that the prosecution wasn't allowed to introduce (the one the judge yelled at him for when he brought it up on Wednesday) was video of Rittenhouse talking about shooting looters at some point prior to the incident.

Prosecutors say that the video shows Rittenhouse watching some men exiting a CVS store and then commenting that he wishes he had his rifle so he could shoot them. It was filmed 15 days before the Kenosha shootings.
A voice that sounds like Rittenhouse says one of the men coming out of the store appears to be armed, the Journal Sentinel reported. Then, he says, “Bro I wish I had my (expletive) AR. l’d start shooting rounds at them.”

https://apnews.com/article/trials-f19acb6b4f1e4128610d2078105db1ce

CM189191

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

tempo_n_groove

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

CM189191

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

JB16057

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

It is your right as an American to bitch and whine.

brianlux

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Homo Sapiens:  Countless deaths

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Fixed.

nicknyr15

brianlux said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Homo Sapiens:  Countless deaths

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Fixed.

Yea. The most dangerous species in the world , by far. 

brianlux

nicknyr15 said:

brianlux said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Homo Sapiens:  Countless deaths

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Fixed.

Yea. The most dangerous species in the world , by far. 

So much potential yet so much destruction.  I wish we could turn that around somehow.  Civilization has been around for about 50,000 years, so maybe by the year 52021 we will have figured it out.

DewieCox

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Meltdown99 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

i hiked in grizzly bear country in the past...you don't need a gun...just stop the nonsense.

That's great good for you.
You all don't have to agree with me, that's fine.

Moving on now.

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

Deleted the comment.  Discussed in PM.

Now moving on...

These are the most dangerous animals in the US by the number of deaths since 1970:

Brown Bears: 70 deaths

Sharks: 57 deaths

Snakes: 57 deaths

Black Bears: 54 deaths

Alligators: 33 deaths

Cougars: 16 deaths

Polar bears: 10 deaths

Wolves: 2 deaths

Lightening kills ~50 people EACH year.

You're way more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by an animal while hiking. What are you going to do, shoot the clouds? 

"It's my right as an American to be willfully ignorant and unnecessarily put myself and others in harm's way."

I’d venture a guess that almost every one of those deaths caused by land animals is while hiking and almost none of those lightning deaths are while hiking