George Floyd Protests

tempo_n_groove

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

CM189191 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Jeezus man.  You think that the kid really wanted to shoot people?

You purchase a gun hoping never to have to use it, people don't buy them hoping to...

Yes.  I think he wanted to shoot people.

I know this.  Because he shot people.

If he didn't want to shoot people.  Then he wouldn't have.

It's that simple.

When I carried concealed it was never so I can shoot people...

You hope to never have to use it.

What was the cc for then?

In case you got lost on your way home from work, and ended up at the shooting range?

When I went hiking I carried.  I should have been more specific.  It was for defense of a rogue wild animal, not a person.  I never carried in groups of people.

Out of My Mind and Time

static111

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

tempo_n_groove

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

Guy in Florida that Shot Treyvon comes to mind.

static111

tempo_n_groove said:

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

Guy in Florida that Shot Treyvon comes to mind.

Makes you wonder would Rittenhouse have been so brazen if others before him hadn't been let off? 

mace1229

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same.
I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder. 

mickeyrat

his mother needs charged. she drove her minor son across state lines transporting a loaded weapon he was not legally allowed to have.

cblock4life

Out of My Mind and Time said:

You wrote this?  How’d you find time between skiing, boating, playing golf in the majors, sailing, etc. etc. or may we have your source?  Also, did you teach Rittenhouse how to cry like that?  He needs a new acting coach. 

cblock4life

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

Won’t he be charged with something though?  Illegally possessing the weapon and crossing state lines?  I can’t watch it after his fake crying and I know nothing about all the guns rules. 

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten

The charges:

• First-degree reckless homicide with a dangerous weapon (felony)
• First-degree reckless homicide with a dangerous weapon (felony)
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety with a dangerous weapon (felony)
• First-degree recklessly endangering safety with a dangerous weapon (felony)
• Attempt first-degree intentional homicide with a dangerous weapon (felony)
• Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person younger than 18 years old (misdemeanor)
• Failure to comply with an emergency management order (civil forfeiture): dismissed

These are the charges he faces. I can see him getting the reckless endangerment and the misdemeanor.  

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

And people buy into crap like this...  Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.

C'mon.

Out of My Mind and Time

cblock4life said:

Out of My Mind and Time said:

You wrote this?  How’d you find time between skiing, boating, playing golf in the majors, sailing, etc. etc. or may we have your source?  Also, did you teach Rittenhouse how to cry like that?  He needs a new acting coach. 

Wow. The ignorance. So weird. Not enough snow yet to ski. Don't golf in the majors. Have not sailed since 2000. Got any other questions?

Also fuck LeBron. Maybe he should of been on that helicopter and not Kobe. Laura was right. Stick to dribbling the ball. 

And stupid Joe came out and called him a white supremacist.  What an idiot. Sue him too Kyle. Talk to Nick and get paid. 

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

And people buy into crap like this...  Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.

C'mon.

Yeah, he’s very remorseful.  

mace1229

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

And people buy into crap like this...  Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.

C'mon.

My thoughts too. I honestly don't understand why he's getting so much crap for crying. I'd be crying too testifying why I had to kill 2 people and facing serious prison time.
Did anyone double check and make sure the jury wasn't to his right?

static111

mace1229 said:

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same.
I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder. 

Ok go into a crowd stir up shit and run away, turn around because you are "in fear for your life" etc.  If this doesn't create a precedent for that type of vigilantism i will be surprised.

static111

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

And people buy into crap like this...  Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.

C'mon.

Yeah, he’s very remorseful.  

People flash the white power sign du jour regularly when they are remorseful over their actions during protests supporting the the movement for Black lives.

Merkin Baller

static111 said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

And people buy into crap like this...  Because you aren't allowed to take your eyes off the person whom asked you the question.

C'mon.

Yeah, he’s very remorseful.  

People flash the white power sign du jour regularly when they are remorseful over their actions during protests supporting the the movement for Black lives.

Wearing a T shirt that says "Free As Fuck"


Do they make a shirt that says "remorseful as fuck"?

nicknyr15

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t feel a thing for him or the victims. It’s amazing how even this, is a political battle of left vs right. What a shame.

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

mace1229 said:

static111 said:

If the kid gets off this just sets the preemptive self defense precedent.  I'm sure no one would abuse that by say going into crowds of people they don't agree with armed, looking to stir up shit and "having" to kill others because of the immediate threat of great bodily harm...what a joke.

I think the difference is Kyle clearly tried to flee. He is seen, on footage running away trying to avoid having to use his gun. He was chased and cornered. He was hit in the head twice with a skateboard and had a gun pointed at him all while trying to flee. So someone going into a crowd and stirring things up with the intent to shoot people wouldn't look the same.
I don't see how he gets convicted of murder. Gun charges probably, but not the murder. 

Ok go into a crowd stir up shit and run away, turn around because you are "in fear for your life" etc.  If this doesn't create a precedent for that type of vigilantism i will be surprised.

Which is why the charge of "reckless endangerment" is important. He may be able to argue that he was defending himself but he intentionally inserted himself into a situation where he shouldn't have.