** STICKY ** BLACK vs JOHNNY GUITAR

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    edited May 2020
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    You can ride on three wheels, a woman on your knee or you can sulk in front of an empty bed where you ex used to lay.
    Johnny Guitar > Black
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    pearljammr78 said:
    The Juggler said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    You're probably just too mature. 
    I’ve been called a lot of things but mature was never one of them. Thank you. 
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Got Some is just not that good. Better than The Fixer though. 
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  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    BLACK
    Master..... something. Just not Quoter. 
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  • kotton_crown
    kotton_crown Posts: 214
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Not even close
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,188
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    BLACK
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    pearljammr78 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
    In all seriousness,  I think Unthought and Amongst the Waves come off pretty well live.  While im not thrilled when they start,  I'm fine with hearing them.  Nothing else from BS. From LB, I think the song LB is excellent live,  especially the ending jam. They can table the rest of the record. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    mrussel1 said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
    In all seriousness,  I think Unthought and Amongst the Waves come off pretty well live.  While im not thrilled when they start,  I'm fine with hearing them.  Nothing else from BS. From LB, I think the song LB is excellent live,  especially the ending jam. They can table the rest of the record. 
    Yeah I think LB the song is quite good, actually. The rest of the album is just kind of meh. I liked it at first and still think it's better than Backspacer (except for Johnny Guitar, obviously) but it's a tough listen at this point.

    Hard to believe a song as wonderful as Johnny Guitar came out of an album as subpar as Backspacer. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,070
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    pearljammr78 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
    Backspacer is fine to me.  It’s not Vs. but there is plenty to appreciate in there for me.  
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,334
    edited May 2020
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Wow JG played only 17 times and I’ve seen it live 6 times. Sung my lungs out each time!
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,188
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    mrussel1 said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
    In all seriousness,  I think Unthought and Amongst the Waves come off pretty well live.  While im not thrilled when they start,  I'm fine with hearing them.  Nothing else from BS. From LB, I think the song LB is excellent live,  especially the ending jam. They can table the rest of the record. 
    Unthought known, amongst the waves and lb are all phenomenal live. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,877
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Total joke post but I actually really enjoy JG
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  • bootlegger10
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    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
  • LastStopOnTheWestCoastLine
    LastStopOnTheWestCoastLine Posts: 329
    BLACK
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
  • timbo1972
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    LastStopOnTheWestCoastLine said:
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
    Never assume, you know what it makes.... and that’s not cool:(
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  • Pap
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    on2legs said:
    Pap said:
    on2legs said:

    You've seen Leatherman 9 times?! :open_mouth: Man, I'm jealous...
    Can’t find a... leatherman!
    Exactly! :smile:
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  • mrussel1
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    bootlegger10 said:
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    This guy gets it 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,860
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    100 Pacer said:
    Wow JG played only 17 times and I’ve seen it live 6 times. Sung my lungs out each time!
    Did it fill the room?
  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
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    Even i don't have the amount of sarcasm in me to vote JG....

    Force of Nature, however....


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  • The Juggler
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    bootlegger10 said:
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    Great post here. Compelling and rich. Thank you for taking the time...
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