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** STICKY ** BLACK vs JOHNNY GUITAR

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,872
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I feel like I’m not in on the joke. The best song on Backspacer isn’t better than the worst song on Ten. What’s next? Gonna See My Friend vs Rearviewmirror? Got Some vs Lukin? The best song on Backspacer is Speed of Sound. I will say that any song on Backspacer is better than Mankind. But the sound of explosive diarrhea splattering the bowl is better than the sound of Mankind so the standard isn't that high. I’m not smart enough to get the joke that is this thread. 
    Lukin is way better than Got Some...
    Agreed. And RVM vs Gonna See My Friend? How is that even a question? What the hell drug is this lady on? 
    Gonna see my friend opened spectrum night 4, 'nuff said.  
    They had to do that to bring the excitement level down a notch. If you start at ten there is no where to go but down. 

    Gonna see my friend is just a dumb song. Not a bad song, just a dumb song. Backspacer is just not that good of an album. Some good to great songs but I will never sit down and listen to it again in it’s entirety. 
    In all seriousness,  I think Unthought and Amongst the Waves come off pretty well live.  While im not thrilled when they start,  I'm fine with hearing them.  Nothing else from BS. From LB, I think the song LB is excellent live,  especially the ending jam. They can table the rest of the record. 
    Unthought known, amongst the waves and lb are all phenomenal live. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,751
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Total joke post but I actually really enjoy JG
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,537
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
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    BLACK
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
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    timbo1972timbo1972 Posts: 319
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
    Never assume, you know what it makes.... and that’s not cool:(
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    PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,250
    BLACK
    on2legs said:
    Pap said:
    on2legs said:

    You've seen Leatherman 9 times?! :open_mouth: Man, I'm jealous...
    Can’t find a... leatherman!
    Exactly! :smile:
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    This guy gets it 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,996
    BLACK
    100 Pacer said:
    Wow JG played only 17 times and I’ve seen it live 6 times. Sung my lungs out each time!
    Did it fill the room?
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    GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,527
    BLACK
    Even i don't have the amount of sarcasm in me to vote JG....

    Force of Nature, however....


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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    Great post here. Compelling and rich. Thank you for taking the time...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
    You are an elaborate and well-executed troll
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,872
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    I don't think Hemingway could have put it better.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,498
    23scidoo said:
    Greatest poll ever!!!
    i love everyone who vote!!
    love yourself more
    Thank you, i will..lol
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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,175
    BLACK
    I feel so empty... haven't felt the beauty of JG live. What is it like on the other side?


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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    mcgruff10 said:
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    I don't think Hemingway could have put it better.  
    Seeing as he was likely hammered out of his mind, he couldn't have.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,996
    BLACK
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
    You are an elaborate and well-executed troll
    You missed an opportunity here...
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/266838/the-you-are-thread#latest
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,872
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Poncier said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    I don't think Hemingway could have put it better.  
    Seeing as he was likely hammered out of his mind, he couldn't have.
    I ve done some of my best work while sipping on absenta. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    MR242791MR242791 Brooklyn NY Posts: 669
    BLACK
    I love Johnny Guitar but Black is classic.  i didn't realize JG was so popular.  cool.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    I assume this is an elaborate and well-executed troll?
    You are an elaborate and well-executed troll
    You missed an opportunity here...
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/266838/the-you-are-thread#latest
    You did.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,537
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Well, after 11 years I felt it was finally time for me to take a side in this debate.  I picked Johnny Guitar.  Ultimately, it wasn’t the musicality or the melodies, but rather the emotion you could feel in Ed’s delivery in JG.  The lyrics just come from the heart.  I think that is what Black lacks.  I still have no clue what Black is even about.  Tattered sheets from too many laundry cycles?  No clue.  But JG, you can just feel the pain of jealousy and unrequited love.   Ultimately JG taught me to be content with who I am as a person and not try to be some guitar gunslinger ladies man.  Thank you, Ed, for that wonderful insight into humanity.   
    Great post here. Compelling and rich. Thank you for taking the time...
    I just write what is in my heart.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,237
    I remember that huge JG sign campaign at MSG in 2010. On the heels of the successful Breath campaign from a decade earlier, fans really thought it could work again, but nonetheless, Ed didn't feel they were the right crowd to share that intense experience with. Showing once again that Hartford is where it's at. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    pjrusspjruss Posts: 454
    BLACK
    100 Pacer said:
    Wow JG played only 17 times and I’ve seen it live 6 times. Sung my lungs out each time!
    Did it fill the room?
    Well done, Tempo. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    I just learned a new phrase that perfectly crystallizes my thoughts on the song Black... fecal shedding.   

    That is all.  
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    KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 898
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    It’s so painfully obvious that I’m surprised this is even a poll
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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    BLACK
    Let’s be real. Even the art on Backspacer is blah. Give me the awesome pink CD cover version of Ten any day, even tomorrow, Tom Tomorrow. 
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,537
    edited May 2020
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    tbergs said:
    I remember that huge JG sign campaign at MSG in 2010. On the heels of the successful Breath campaign from a decade earlier, fans really thought it could work again, but nonetheless, Ed didn't feel they were the right crowd to share that intense experience with. Showing once again that Hartford is where it's at. 
    It was incredible in Oslo 2014.  Ed was setting up playing a rare tune and I saw some folks getting excited.  They started playing strangest tribe and the group was bummed.  I asked, “why so glum?”  
    They looked back at me like I had asked the dumbest question ever and I just said “ah, Hoping for Johnny Guitar right?”.   I felt some such an idiot for asking that question.
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    evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,848
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    I would be amazed if Ed even remembers JG.  

    I have to ask, "Is there a DEFINITIVE live version of JG?" Bootleg nerds, get to work!
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    JOHNNY GUITAR
    Let’s be real. Even the art on Backspacer is blah. Give me the awesome pink CD cover version of Ten any day, even tomorrow, Tom Tomorrow. 
    Some people just don't get it. Go listen to Nickleback.
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    PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,250
    BLACK
    evenflow82 said: I have to ask, "Is there a DEFINITIVE live version of JG?" Bootleg nerds, get to work!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y2mzqqJ8DY
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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    BLACK
    That video was just horrible. 
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