Pearl Jam 2020 European Tour Postponed

BlueLedbetter

kst said:

BlueLedbetter said:

kst said:

Ryanair is stooping to new lows.  It cancelled my flight a few weeks ago.  Fine.  Refund option presented, form filled out.  Great.  Now, they email with an option to accept a voucher, or request a refund.  And they say refunds will be made over the next few months.  Whenever they get around to it.  Maybe.  Why does a refund have to be requested again? I already requested it.  Is there a regulatory body with oversight of this gamesmanship? 

Just had exactly the same I would have accepted the voucher if but its only valid for 1 year so wont be able to use for next years tour 

And I am now finding if you click on request refund there isn’t a way to actually 

BlueLedbetter

Yes looks like you need to contact them 

bootlegger10

BlueLedbetter said:

Yes looks like you need to contact them 

Yeah, it is ridiculous.  I tried to submit a claim again online and it is said that I had already submitted one (which I had).  I guess I just need to send a general request. 

Update:  I don't see how to just send an email and I am going to assume for now if I've already requested the refund that that request will still be processed.   Perhaps I'm just lazy.  Will give it 60 days. 

BlueLedbetter

Not sure if I'm reading it correctly but I think it may be that if you dont accept the voucher they will eventually refund it ?

RatherStarved

Option 1 accept a voucher

Option 2 if you don’t want a voucher go to option 1

OL289189

Same here : requested a refund, and got emailed a few days later with a voucher number.
Seems the voucher remains valid 'til you got the refund.

Also, guess it's a translation mistake but, i received an email that mentions a "cash" refund

JPPJ84

I had two Ryanair reservations cancelled and got the same mails. Mine says pretty clearly that I still get my money if I don’t accept the voucher (I‘d have to follow a link to do that). If I do accept the voucher but don’t use it before it expires, I get my money back. I made a screenshot of my original refund request so I guess I‘m fine

JackD.

Rumor on some festival forum, that the tour might be pushed to 2022.

I‘d really like to hear some update on this.

mrk2

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

JackD.

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

JPPJ84

JackD. said:

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

Ugh, in that case I hope I can still get my refund later

PJNB

If true that would suck twofold. One for the length of time for the tour to finally happen and two due to credits seemingly only lasting till 2021. 

BlueLedbetter

Would they not be better waiting a few more months to decide when things might be clearer?

one_stone

JackD. said:

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

I don't think it's that easy to postpone (again). They are already on the Lolla websites as an act for 2021 - so basically tickets are kept/sold on this basis. The discussion / comments in the forum that mentioned PJ for 2022 specifically were about "PJ EU arena tour" which I read as "indoor venues". Also the follow up discussion evolved around indoor venues. I could see them doing festivals + probably Waldbüne and returning 2022 for indoor venues. But that's all (my own) speculation at this point and until otherwise confirmed I'm looking forward for a full 2021 run...

For reference - Link to the thread in question: https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233827-rock-werchter-2021/page/9/#comments (the guy named Ken19 is usually a person who is very well informed and probably close to Rock Werchter Organisation)

JackD.

one_stone said:

JackD. said:

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

I don't think it's that easy to postpone (again). They are already on the Lolla websites as an act for 2021 - so basically tickets are kept/sold on this basis. The discussion / comments in the forum that mentioned PJ for 2022 specifically were about "PJ EU arena tour" which I read as "indoor venues". Also the follow up discussion evolved around indoor venues. I could see them doing festivals + probably Waldbüne and returning 2022 for indoor venues. But that's all (my own) speculation at this point and until otherwise confirmed I'm looking forward for a full 2021 run...

For reference - Link to the thread in question: https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233827-rock-werchter-2021/page/9/#comments (the guy named Ken19 is usually a person who is very well informed and probably close to Rock Werchter Organisation)

You might be right. Fingers crossed. Either way, as I said before, an update would be much appreciated. Even a confirmation, that they still want to wait a few months would be better than silence.

PJNB

one_stone said:

JackD. said:

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

I don't think it's that easy to postpone (again). They are already on the Lolla websites as an act for 2021 - so basically tickets are kept/sold on this basis. The discussion / comments in the forum that mentioned PJ for 2022 specifically were about "PJ EU arena tour" which I read as "indoor venues". Also the follow up discussion evolved around indoor venues. I could see them doing festivals + probably Waldbüne and returning 2022 for indoor venues. But that's all (my own) speculation at this point and until otherwise confirmed I'm looking forward for a full 2021 run...

For reference - Link to the thread in question: https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233827-rock-werchter-2021/page/9/#comments (the guy named Ken19 is usually a person who is very well informed and probably close to Rock Werchter Organisation)

Why would they do a few different weekend shows and not fill the weekday up with arena shows? Makes no sense to me.

mrk2

Sounds like playing indoor arenas is not really on some bands’ interests anymore

RatherStarved

Some health experts are saying the virus spreads more easily in indoor environments.  That would be the reason to expect outdoor shows to return first.  However, if the theory is no shows at all before a vaccine, then it wouldn’t matter indoor vs outdoor anyway.

Whatever the case may be, any show delayed beyond 12 months should really offer a refund option.  At a certain point it’s not the 2020 postponed tour any more.  

one_stone

PJNB said:

one_stone said:

JackD. said:

mrk2 said:

At least we know that Lollapalooza Paris and Stockholm have confirmed that Pearl Jam will be back next year. Bailing out of those might not be cheap.

I'm not sure about that. If they fulfill their contracts in 2022 a festival wouldn't insist on 2021. Unless they want to never have them on their line up again.

I don't think it's that easy to postpone (again). They are already on the Lolla websites as an act for 2021 - so basically tickets are kept/sold on this basis. The discussion / comments in the forum that mentioned PJ for 2022 specifically were about "PJ EU arena tour" which I read as "indoor venues". Also the follow up discussion evolved around indoor venues. I could see them doing festivals + probably Waldbüne and returning 2022 for indoor venues. But that's all (my own) speculation at this point and until otherwise confirmed I'm looking forward for a full 2021 run...

For reference - Link to the thread in question: https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233827-rock-werchter-2021/page/9/#comments (the guy named Ken19 is usually a person who is very well informed and probably close to Rock Werchter Organisation)

Why would they do a few different weekend shows and not fill the weekday up with arena shows? Makes no sense to me.

I would have guessed a short run of 6 - 8 shows over probably two / three weekends with 1 or 2 festivals each weekend to fullfill the already committed festivals and something outside like Imola and Waldbühne (with second night?) on the weekdays between.
But you are right .. from a business and efficiency perspective it makes no sense. ... but what makes sense nowadays? 

drfox

Why would they push back to 2022 when every other major band in the world has rescheduled to next year. Makes no sense at all. Especially when you consider no one knows how bad the virus will be next year, even if it is here at all (if vaccine found or it disappears naturally)