Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:9
    mickeyrat said:
    donald trump is a thirty four-time convicted felon. 

    didnt catch that. repeat it?
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    DONALD TRUMP IS A THIRTY-FOUR TIME CONVICTED FELON

    I'm sorry. Please repeat.
    donald trump was found guilty of and convicted for no fewer than 34 felonies by a jury of 12 average Americans.

    come again?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    “If Biden gets asked at the debate to name one thing Trump accomplished, he should say, "Donald, the best thing you did was accelerate the process to develop these miraculous COVID vaccines that saved millions of lives." It would be a) true and b) would make Trump's head explode.”


    Also… trump’s a 34-time convicted felon. 
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,903
    https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011?t=IeLwIgu4It9k1F8pYTqzXg&s=03
    (Need to click the Link to see the video)


    Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    Biden
    cutz said:
    https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011?t=IeLwIgu4It9k1F8pYTqzXg&s=03
    (Need to click the Link to see the video)


    Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”
    The level of hypocrisy is just off the charts.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    cutz said:
    https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011?t=IeLwIgu4It9k1F8pYTqzXg&s=03
    (Need to click the Link to see the video)


    Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”
    Interesting choice of words… “grind government to a halt” 


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Biden
    cutz said:
    https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011?t=IeLwIgu4It9k1F8pYTqzXg&s=03
    (Need to click the Link to see the video)


    Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”
    Interesting choice of words… “grind government to a halt” 


    what a bunch of bozos
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    cutz said:
    https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011?t=IeLwIgu4It9k1F8pYTqzXg&s=03
    (Need to click the Link to see the video)


    Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”
    Interesting choice of words… “grind government to a halt” 


    what a bunch of bozos
    both of my clownass senators are on there. i am actually not really surprised by that. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,319
    Add Guano to the list of future POOTWH pardons. Everything is a projection.

    DoJ accuses far-right Epoch Times of being money-laundering operation

    Media firm at center of scam involving about $67m, justice department alleges as it announces indictment of CFO Bill Guan

    The far-right Epoch Times media company was at the center of a fraudulent money-laundering and cryptocurrency scam involving tens of millions of dollars, the justice department said on Monday as it announced the indictment of its chief financial officer Bill Guan.

    The 61-year-old executive “conspired with others to participate in a sprawling, transnational scheme to launder at least approximately $67m of illegally obtained funds”, according to a statement from the US attorney’s office of the southern district of New York.

    Proceeds went to the company, it said, and for the personal enrichment of individuals including Guan, who faces up to 70 years in prison on one count of conspiring to commit money laundering and two counts of bank fraud.

    The attorney’s office said the charges did not relate to the newsgathering activities of the Manhattan-based Epoch Times, a media company popular with the conservative right wing for its often conspiratorial coverage of global politics and affairs, and outspoken criticism of the Chinese communist party.

    Guan is accused of masterminding a scheme in which he managed the media company’s “Make Money Online” team overseas, the justice department said.

    “Under Guan’s management, members of the team and others used cryptocurrency to knowingly purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds, including proceeds of fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits, that had been loaded onto tens of thousands of prepaid debit cards,” the statement said.

    The proceeds were then allegedly “laundered” through a certain cryptocurrency platform and turned into digital currency at 70 to 80 cents on the dollar, prosecutors said.

    Team members then used stolen personal identification information to open accounts and funnel the profits there, and subsequently into accounts held in their own names.

    Guan, of Secaucus, New Jersey, lied to investigators about the source of the money when they started looking into an extraordinary 410% increase in the Epoch Times’ annual revenue from approximately $15m to about $62m, the statement further alleges.

    It said he claimed the boost in funds came from “donations”, and that Guan then “wrote a letter addressed to a congressional office falsely stating ‘donations’ constitute ‘an insignificant portion of the overall revenue’ of the media company”.

    In October of last year, NBC News reported an even larger increase in the Epoch Times revenue base, of 685% over two years. NBC’s investigation charted the company’s rise from an obscure, fringe publication into a conservative powerhouse over a relatively short period of time, to the point it was directing millions of dollars into Donald Trump’s failed 2020 re-election campaign.

    A 2021 report in the Guardian featured the Epoch Times among a number of US media outlets linked to Falun Gong, a religious movement engaged in decades-long opposition to the Chinese government.

    One of the company’s aims, the report suggested, was to amplify efforts by Republicans to link Joe Biden and the Democratic party to the Chinese Communist party (CCP) and harden US public opinion against China.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    now from Wisconsin......

    https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-fake-electors-trump-2020-charges-77d00919fc8d8e07438076610090a9b1   Wisconsin attorney general files felony charges against attorneys, aide who worked for Trump in 2020


     
    Wisconsin attorney general files felony charges against attorneys, aide who worked for Trump in 2020
    By SCOTT BAUER
    4 mins ago

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul filed felony forgery charges against two attorneys and an aide who helped submit paperwork falsely saying that former President Donald Trump had won the battleground state in 2020.

    The charges were filed against Trump attorneys Kenneth Chesebro and Jim Troupis and former Trump aide Mike Roman who allegedly delivered Wisconsin’s fake elector paperwork to a Pennsylvania congressman’s staffer in order to get them to Vice President Mike Pence on Jan. 6, 2021.

    All three are due in Dane County Circuit Court on Sept. 19, according to court records.

    Kaul, a Democrat, has faced pressure to bring action against the 10 fake electors, who have yet to be charged with any criminal wrongdoing. He has previously suggested that he was relying on federal investigators while also not ruling out a state probe.

    Electors are people appointed to represent voters in presidential elections. The winner of the popular vote in each state determines which party’s electors are sent to the Electoral College, which meets in December after the election to certify the outcome.

    The fake elector efforts are central to an August federal indictment filed against Trump alleging he tried to overturn results of the 2020 election. Federal prosecutors, investigating his conduct related to the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot, have also said the scheme originated in Wisconsin. Trump also faces charges in Georgia and has denied wrongdoing.

    Michigan and Nevada have also criminally charged fake electors.

    The Wisconsin electors, Chesebro and Troup all settled a civil lawsuit that was brought against them last year.

    Documents released as part of those settlements showed that the strategy in Wisconsin replicated moves in six other swing states.

    Trump lost Wisconsin to Biden, a Democrat, by fewer than 21,000 votes. Trump carried Wisconsin by a similar margin in 2016.

    Wisconsin is one of a handful of swing states again this year.

    Government and outside investigationshave uniformly found there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could have swung the 2020 election. But Trump has continued to spread falsehoods about the election, particularly in Wisconsin.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-contempt-jan-6-committee-prison-2da50bcf2f8ff8f3e01ef4bf2b1b845e   Trump ally Steve Bannon must surrender to prison by July 1 to start contempt sentence, judge says

     
    Trump ally Steve Bannon must surrender to prison by July 1 to start contempt sentence, judge says
    By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER
    2 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Steve Bannon, a longtime ally of former President Donald Trump, must report to prison by July 1 to serve his four-month sentence for defying a subpoena from the House committee that investigated the U.S. Capitol insurrection, a federal judge ruled Thursday.

    U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols in Washington granted the Justice Department's request to make Bannon begin his prison term after a federal appeals court panel last month upheld his contempt of Congress conviction.

    Bannon is expected to seek a stay of the judge's order, which could delay his surrender date.

    “I’ve got great lawyers, and we’re going to go all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to," Bannon told reporters outside the courthouse. He added: “There's not a prison built or jail built that will ever shut me up."

    In a social media post Thursday, Trump accused prosecutors of being “desperate” to jail Bannon. Trump repeated his claim that Republicans are being persecuted by a politically motivated justice system — rhetoric that has escalated in the wake of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee's conviction last week on 34 felony charges in his New York hush money trial.

    Nichols, the judge who ordered Bannon to report to prison, was nominated to the bench by Trump in 2018.

    Bannon was convicted nearly two years ago of two counts of contempt of Congress: one for refusing to sit for a deposition with the Jan. 6 House Committee and the other for refusing to provide documents related to his involvement in Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 presidential election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.

    Nichols had initially allowed him to remain free while he fought his conviction because the judge believed the case raised substantial legal questions. But during a hearing in Washington's federal court, Nichols said the calculus changed after the appeals court panel said all of Bannon’s challenges lack merit.

    “I do not believe the original basis for my stay exists any longer,” Nichols said.

    Bannon can appeal his conviction to the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court. Prosecutor John Crabb told the judge it was “very unlikely” Bannon would succeed in getting his conviction thrown out.

    Bannon’s lawyer at trial argued that the former adviser didn’t ignore the subpoena but was still engaged in good-faith negotiations with the congressional committee when he was charged.

    The defense has said Bannon had been acting on the advice of his attorney at the time, who told him that the subpoena was invalid because the committee would not allow a Trump lawyer in the room and that Bannon could not determine what documents or testimony he could provide because Trump has asserted executive privilege.

    Defense lawyer David Schoen told the judge it would be unfair to send Bannon to prison now because he would complete his entire sentence before he exhausted his appeals. Schoen said the case raises “serious constitutional issues” that need to be examined by the Supreme Court.

    “In this country, we don't send anyone to prison if they believe that they were doing something that complied with the law,” he told reporters.

    A second Trump aide, trade adviser Peter Navarro, was also convicted of contempt of Congress. He reported to prison in March to serve his four-month sentence.

    Navarro, too, had maintained that he couldn’t cooperate with the committee because Trump had invoked executive privilege. But courts have rejected that argument, finding Navarro couldn’t prove Trump had actually invoked it.

    The House Jan. 6 committee’s final report asserted that Trump criminally engaged in a “multi-part conspiracy” to overturn the lawful results of the 2020 election and failed to act to stop his supporters from attacking the Capitol, concluding an extraordinary 18-month investigation into the former president and the violent insurrection.

    Bannon is also facing criminal charges in New York state court alleging he duped donors who gave money to build a wall along the U.S. southern border. Bannon has pleaded not guilty to money laundering, conspiracy, fraud and other charges, and that trial has been postponed until at least the end of September.


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,341
    Biden
    CNN — 

    US job growth shot higher in May, jumping to 272,000, much higher than expected, while the nation’s jobless rate broke a 27-month streak of below 4% unemployment.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    CNN — 

    US job growth shot higher in May, jumping to 272,000, much higher than expected, while the nation’s jobless rate broke a 27-month streak of below 4% unemployment.


    fucking brandon at it again.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,319
    mickeyrat said:
    CNN — 

    US job growth shot higher in May, jumping to 272,000, much higher than expected, while the nation’s jobless rate broke a 27-month streak of below 4% unemployment.


    fucking brandon at it again.
    Dem chaos agents fucking everything up.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,578
    mickeyrat said:
    CNN — 

    US job growth shot higher in May, jumping to 272,000, much higher than expected, while the nation’s jobless rate broke a 27-month streak of below 4% unemployment.


    fucking brandon at it again.
    Typical election year bullshit. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,289
    Biden
    May be an image of text that says THE NEW YORKER o put them in perspective I think of being on an airplane The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and eventually parks it beside my seat Can I interest you in the chicken she asks Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked David Sedaris
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,341
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    May be an image of text that says THE NEW YORKER o put them in perspective I think of being on an airplane The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and eventually parks it beside my seat Can I interest you in the chicken she asks Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked David Sedaris
    people on the right differ as to whom the chicken is in this scenario. that is the problem. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,169
    brianlux said:
    May be an image of text that says THE NEW YORKER o put them in perspective I think of being on an airplane The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and eventually parks it beside my seat Can I interest you in the chicken she asks Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked David Sedaris
    people on the right differ as to whom the chicken is in this scenario. that is the problem. 
    Or if Biden's the chicken, they think it's been braised in arsenic.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 2,031
    Biden
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,319
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Neither candidate is getting swapped out. 
  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    "Each party holds a national convention to select a final presidential nominee."  The Republican National Convention is July 15 - 18.  The Democratic National Convention is August 19 - 22.

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    Technical question... 

    So you're telling me it's not too late?  lol 
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 

    what source are you using for the time spent following IS politics?
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 

    what source are you using for the time spent following IS politics?
    Social media and their campaigns. The only policy stuff I've seen lately is the stuff about the border. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
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    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Neither candidate is getting swapped out. 
    If one of the two of them died tomorrow, that candidate's party would win.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Neither candidate is getting swapped out. 
    If one of the two of them died tomorrow, that candidate's party would win.
    fascinating take
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,319
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 
    The parties have coalesced around their respective candidates and barring any incapacitation, they’re the names that’ll appear on the ballot. If something were to happen to either of them in a 90-30 day time frame prior to the election, I’m not sure their names could be replaced on the ballot. Different states have different rules regarding changes to the ballot within certain time frames.

    It would be a massive undertaking to replace a candidate or presumed candidate at this stage due to organizational constraints and fundraising complexity. That party organization/structure should remain in place with everyone on board and loyal to a potential replacement candidate. That’s not the case and typically what happens is turnover in staff, donors stop giving, chaos, until the dust settles. Much too late for that. Repubs are better at goose stepping.

    I have a lot of thoughts on this upcoming election but I haven’t had the time to express them and they’re depressing so I’m procrastinating.
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 
    The parties have coalesced around their respective candidates and barring any incapacitation, they’re the names that’ll appear on the ballot. If something were to happen to either of them in a 90-30 day time frame prior to the election, I’m not sure their names could be replaced on the ballot. Different states have different rules regarding changes to the ballot within certain time frames.

    It would be a massive undertaking to replace a candidate or presumed candidate at this stage due to organizational constraints and fundraising complexity. That party organization/structure should remain in place with everyone on board and loyal to a potential replacement candidate. That’s not the case and typically what happens is turnover in staff, donors stop giving, chaos, until the dust settles. Much too late for that. Repubs are better at goose stepping.

    I have a lot of thoughts on this upcoming election but I haven’t had the time to express them and they’re depressing so I’m procrastinating.
    Your procrastination is troubling.  I’m at the point that I just don’t want to believe there’s that many pos in this country.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,251
    Biden
    Parksy said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    No disrespect intended at all...  To the Americans here...  you have an election upcoming between a convicted felon who is a life long hard core doosh bag, evil moron......    and an old man who looked completely lost in a field during a G7 meeting and who also looked like a confused mannequin at a Juneteenth ceremony.  

    Not good. 

    Is it too late to change the candidates at this point? For either side.  If it's not, what is considered like the deadline for any change to be made?  
    Evil versus appearance. About sums it up. Should be an easy call but you know, Hunter’s laptop.
    I agree about the 'should be an easy call'  ... however...  after the shit storm that has been Trump, it's become apparent to me that if we...  and by 'we' i mean those who support Biden, democrats, are left leaning, are woke... whatever you wanna call it...  if we want to defeat him we have to be not just a little better... but a lot better. 

    I would go so far as to suggest that Democrat politicians should honestly be making a handful of social concessions to make sure the doosh doesn't get into power.  That's just my opinion. 

    The worry here for me at least loosely following the likes of Biden and Harris are that they are sticking to pandering to the left.  So to me... they're not really giving anything edible to a would be Trump voter. (fact check me on that... I don't follow American politics THAT much) Beyond that... Biden is now fully... and I do mean fully giving Trump folks the ammunition they need to justify a vote against Biden.  They try so desperately to find a card to play against Biden that they go full lies, fear, and propaganda. Most people buy into it.  With Biden physically showing that he is borderline senile, they don't even need propaganda.

    If I'm a democrat... Biden needs to go and soon. Take the opportunities now to make that change. Health, age, his son... whatever you want. Bow out with grace, let someone else take the at-bat.   I feel the same in Canada.  Liberals are on a losing path... and I think the best thing right now is the have Trudeau step down and let someone else represent.   (Problem with Canada is we don't have age and health to point to... Trudeau is just that awful at his job.) 

    what source are you using for the time spent following IS politics?
    Social media and their campaigns. The only policy stuff I've seen lately is the stuff about the border. 

    might suggest additional news orgs with no financial benefit in the process. googling the specific laws he pushed and their results(infrastructure,  chips act, etc). sources like AP , Reuters, BBC.
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