Got to the voting place at 7:30, felt like i was in line for PJ merchandise.
No posters (Bernie)? Fine, I'll get the hoodie (Warren)? Those are out
too? No, I don't want any lame-ass wrist bands (Trump). Just give me
the so-so t-shirt (Biden). It's not what I really wanted, but it'll do.
Can you hold it up? Show me the back. What’s that little seam thread? It looks like it’ll unravel. Will it wash well? Shrink? You only have a small? But I need an XXL. I suppose I could lose weight. Does it come in red? No? Blue only. Hmmmmm. Do you have any posters? No? Why not? Once, I went to a show, and they had posters. It was a lamb or goat like looking guy. It’s still in the tube, I think? And another time I couldn’t get a poster but someone offered to send me one. It was for money mind you but when the tube arrived, it was full of air. And the worst part? I paid customs duty! How about stickers? Do you have any stickers?
Timed it. From when I walked into vote to when I walked out, it took four minutes. God bless the folks that have to wait in lines. They’re fucking patriots.
Timed it. From when I walked into vote to when I walked out, it took four minutes. God bless the folks that have to wait in lines. They’re fucking patriots.
Or just reasonable people, believing in democracy.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Timed it. From when I walked into vote to when I walked out, it took four minutes. God bless the folks that have to wait in lines. They’re fucking patriots.
Or just reasonable people, believing in democracy.
Timed it. From when I walked into vote to when I walked out, it took four minutes. God bless the folks that have to wait in lines. They’re fucking patriots.
Or just reasonable people, believing in democracy.
Some people wait for hours on end.
I know. I watch Last Week Tonight.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Timed it. From when I walked into vote to when I walked out, it took four minutes. God bless the folks that have to wait in lines. They’re fucking patriots.
Or just reasonable people, believing in democracy.
Some people wait for hours on end.
I know. I watch Last Week Tonight.
Voting today will go quicker than early voting. Early voting is normally only available at a limited number of locations. For my county, there were two locations, both at the Registar's office in eastern and western parts of the county. By contrast, schools are used heavily for day of voting. Schools are closed for classes on election day every year here. So the locations are limited for early voting, but widespread for day of voting.
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
10pm eastern time to 3 weeks from now....
Shit. 3 weeks? Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
10pm eastern time to 3 weeks from now....
Shit. 3 weeks? Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
I think they can count fine lol just the fact that things could possibly go to the courts if it is close and whether mail in ballots thrown out or not in states like PA.
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
10pm eastern time to 3 weeks from now....
Shit. 3 weeks? Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
I think they can count fine lol just the fact that things could possibly go to the courts if it is close and whether mail in ballots thrown out or not in states like PA.
Fuck, will be a clusterfuck
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
10pm eastern time to 3 weeks from now....
Shit. 3 weeks? Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
I think they can count fine lol just the fact that things could possibly go to the courts if it is close and whether mail in ballots thrown out or not in states like PA.
Fuck, will be a clusterfuck
Hoping not. If Florida goes blue tonight it is pretty much over. If it is red and Arizona/North Carolina is too close to call then we have to wait. Also Wisconsin will be late in declaring a winner which makes things more interesting though it is very likely to go blue. Pennsylvania is going to be late tallying votes so if it comes down to that watch out.
What time expected they will announce that Biden won?
10pm eastern time to 3 weeks from now....
Shit. 3 weeks? Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
I think they can count fine lol just the fact that things could possibly go to the courts if it is close and whether mail in ballots thrown out or not in states like PA.
This is my final conservative guess. You can swap out PA with one of the following FL,NC,GA,AZ and longshots OH/TX and it is still the same outcome being a Biden win. Trump has to run the gauntlet on those states and win PA to pull it off. Also Biden has to hold Mi,NV, and WI of course but if he is not holding those two he is fucked anyways as the dominoes will fall red like they did in 2016.
U.S. Attorney General William Barr. Photo: Ting Shen Xinhua/eyevine/Redux
On September 10, Nora Dannehy resigned as the deputy to John Durham, the federal prosecutor investigating the government’s probe into the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Dannehy left her post and the Justice Department in part because of Attorney General William Barr’s pressure on Durham to release a report on his investigation’s findings before Election Day, according to a person familiar with her thinking. Trump had long been hoping a report out this fall would damage Democrats, including Joe Biden, and help him win reelection. In Trump’s terminology, Durham’s report would reveal an “attempted overthrow” of his administration by Democratic insiders. But Justice Department guidelines restrict prosecutors from taking such actions within 60 days of an election because they might affect the outcome of the election. Both Durham and Dannehy believed that if they complied with Barr’s demands they would be violating this doctrine, according to two people familiar with their thinking.
Durham, who is the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut, and Dannehy were also troubled that Barr had purposely misrepresented their work in numerous public comments, the two people said. According to two sources familiar with the probe, there has been no evidence found, after 18 months of investigation, to support Barr’s claims that Trump was targeted by politically biased Obama officials to prevent his election. (The probe remains ongoing.) In fact, the sources said, the Durham investigation has so far uncovered no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden or Barack Obama, or that they were even involved with the Russia investigation. There “was no evidence … not even remotely … indicating Obama or Biden did anything wrong,” as one person put it.
Shortly after the resignation of his prized deputy and with the election looming on the horizon, Durham phoned Barr. He forcefully told the attorney general that his office would not be releasing a report or taking any other significant public actions before Election Day, according to a person with knowledge of the phone call. Dannehy’s resignation constituted an implied but unspoken threat to Barr that Durham or others on his team might resign if the attorney general attempted to force the issue, according to a person familiar with Durham’s thinking.
After hearing from Durham in September, Barr informed the president and allies that there would be no October surprise, causing Trump to lash out. “Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes — the greatest political crimes in the history of our country — then we’re going to get little satisfaction unless I win,” he told Fox Business last month. “[These] people should be indicted, this was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. And that includes Obama and it includes Biden.”
U.S. Attorney John Durham. Photo: Bob Child/AP
The president had been hoping for a repeat of what happened during the 2016 election, when, with just 11 days left, then-FBI director James Comey announced the reopening of the bureau’s Hillary Clinton email investigation. Comey’s decision is widely seen to have hurt Clinton at a crucial moment and helped Trump pull off a come-from-behind victory. For more than a year and a half, Trump believed that Durham’s investigation would confirm the conspiracy theory that the “deep state” — senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, and intelligence community — had worked to sabotage his presidency with false accusations that he had colluded with Russia. The Justice Department’s inspector general last year reported finding no “evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions” of the Russia investigators, and so far, the only charge brought by Durham’s office has been against an ex-FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to falsifying an email used to obtain a warrant for electronic surveillance on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
For his part, Barr was hyping what the Durham investigation would find since at least the spring and suggested it would be bad for Democrats. “There is a difference between an abuse of power and a federal crime. Not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is a federal crime,” Barr told reporters in May. “As to President Obama and Vice-President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man. Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.” One person familiar with the Durham investigation called Barr’s comments a backhanded attempt to insinuate that Obama and Biden had abused their powers. Barr’s ongoing commentary regarding Durham’s investigation appears to have violated Justice Department policy that officials should “not confirm the existence or otherwise comment about ongoing investigations.”
While discussing Durham’s investigation, Barr’s rhetoric also increasingly paralleled Trump’s. In contrast to the president, Barr delivered his comments in a measured and restrained manner, while Trump’s claims have been coarse and hyperbolic. Barr has suggested that the DOJ and FBI’s investigations of the president was “one of the greatest travesties” in American history and a “bogus scandal,” whereas Trump simply called the investigations a “hoax.” Barr has said the “greatest danger to our free system” is when law enforcement and intelligence agencies try to “affect the outcome of an election.” Trump accused them of an attempted “coup” against him. Barr has said that the “completely bogus narrative” caused by the investigations “was largely fanned and hyped by a completely irresponsible press.” Trump blamed the “fake media,” period.
After hearing there would be no October surprise, Trump excoriated Barr, telling Rush Limbaugh: “I think it’s a terrible thing, and I’ll say it to his face.”
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Why aren't you scaling up the polling places to meet the population of that area?
Skimping out on having sound tax levels again in the name of "the government aint' takin' any of my money"?. Or republicans run places that refuses to scale up to have long lines?
I went and it wasn't bad. The early voting lines were 5-10 times longer. I was in and out today in 20-25 minutes. People were standing in the rain on Friday for early voting for 3-4 hours. Lol.
I think a big part of it has to do with the competency of the local government and elections officials to set things up properly.
Quite frankly, I don't think waiting in a line for an hour or 2 or 3 to exercise your right to vote is a big deal. Not sure why so many make it so. People wait 3 hours to go on Rock 'n Roller Coaster at Disney World.
I also thought - but, but, but COVID. Why is anyone voting in person? Weren't we told that would be the death of all of us? When did that change?
I do love people blaming a party over another for local election officials. That's like blaming the failures of the post office on Trump when we all know the post office has been failing for years. I bet before this year many of you wondered why we even have a post office. I mean - does anyone actually get any meaningful mail these days? All I've been doing the last week is throwing out election shit. We could save the planet if we didn't have a means by which to waste the paper. I find this place so amusing.
I do. I still get a few bills in the mail, an occasional card or letter, book and records I've ordered. We use the USPS a lot at the bookstore. My wife gets a lot of mail related to her business. The two post offices we use (Placerville and Diamond Springs) are essential services for us. I can't imagine being without them. And the people who work at both offices are first rate workers and wonderful people. I know most of them by name.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Why aren't you scaling up the polling places to meet the population of that area?
Skimping out on having sound tax levels again in the name of "the government aint' takin' any of my money"?. Or republicans run places that refuses to scale up to have long lines?
I went and it wasn't bad. The early voting lines were 5-10 times longer. I was in and out today in 20-25 minutes. People were standing in the rain on Friday for early voting for 3-4 hours. Lol.
I think a big part of it has to do with the competency of the local government and elections officials to set things up properly.
Quite frankly, I don't think waiting in a line for an hour or 2 or 3 to exercise your right to vote is a big deal. Not sure why so many make it so. People wait 3 hours to go on Rock 'n Roller Coaster at Disney World.
I also thought - but, but, but COVID. Why is anyone voting in person? Weren't we told that would be the death of all of us? When did that change?
I do love people blaming a party over another for local election officials. That's like blaming the failures of the post office on Trump when we all know the post office has been failing for years. I bet before this year many of you wondered why we even have a post office. I mean - does anyone actually get any meaningful mail these days? All I've been doing the last week is throwing out election shit. We could save the planet if we didn't have a means by which to waste the paper. I find this place so amusing.
I do. I still get a few bills in the mail, an occasional card or letter, book and records I've ordered. We use the USPS a lot at the bookstore. My wife gets a lot of mail related to her business. The two post offices we use (Placerville and Diamond Springs) are essential services for us. I can't imagine being without them. And the people who work at both offices are first rate workers and wonderful people. I know most of them by name.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans still get their social security checks via the mail too. Talk about being out of touch...so, yeah, I guess voting for Trump makes sense for him.
Hey, no matter what the outcome is we’re all friends in here. Try to keep cordial and love one another. Peace ya’ll!
this is a stark difference in tone from a few days ago.
Roles is good people, I think the majority of us have gotten worked up and lost our cool in the amt thread for whatever reason. (Myself included!) At the end of the day I think we can all agree that no code is pj s best album and all wine tastes better with ice.
Hey, no matter what the outcome is we’re all friends in here. Try to keep cordial and love one another. Peace ya’ll!
this is a stark difference in tone from a few days ago.
Roles is good people, I think the majority of us have gotten worked up in the amt thread for whatever reason. (Myself included!) At the end of the day I think we can all agree that no code is pj s best album and all wine tastes better with ice.
take your freaking shoes off when you come into my house, ya slob.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Hey, no matter what the outcome is we’re all friends in here. Try to keep cordial and love one another. Peace ya’ll!
this is a stark difference in tone from a few days ago.
Roles is good people, I think the majority of us have gotten worked up in the amt thread for whatever reason. (Myself included!) At the end of the day I think we can all agree that no code is pj s best album and all wine tastes better with ice.
take your freaking shoes off when you come into my house, ya slob.
Nothing like hanging barefoot in a buddy's house in the dead of the Canadian winter.
Hey, no matter what the outcome is we’re all friends in here. Try to keep cordial and love one another. Peace ya’ll!
this is a stark difference in tone from a few days ago.
Roles is good people, I think the majority of us have gotten worked up in the amt thread for whatever reason. (Myself included!) At the end of the day I think we can all agree that no code is pj s best album and all wine tastes better with ice.
take your freaking shoes off when you come into my house, ya slob.
Nothing like hanging barefoot in a buddy's house in the dead of the Canadian winter.
you don't wear socks?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Do they need mathematicians from Greece to do the counting there?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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This is great news for Biden and maybe what tips the scales in his favour in FL and gets him an early win tonight.
Maybe taking its first steps.
This is my final conservative guess. You can swap out PA with one of the following FL,NC,GA,AZ and longshots OH/TX and it is still the same outcome being a Biden win. Trump has to run the gauntlet on those states and win PA to pull it off. Also Biden has to hold Mi,NV, and WI of course but if he is not holding those two he is fucked anyways as the dominoes will fall red like they did in 2016.
-EV 8/14/93
How Trump and Barr’s October Surprise Went Bust
On September 10, Nora Dannehy resigned as the deputy to John Durham, the federal prosecutor investigating the government’s probe into the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Dannehy left her post and the Justice Department in part because of Attorney General William Barr’s pressure on Durham to release a report on his investigation’s findings before Election Day, according to a person familiar with her thinking. Trump had long been hoping a report out this fall would damage Democrats, including Joe Biden, and help him win reelection. In Trump’s terminology, Durham’s report would reveal an “attempted overthrow” of his administration by Democratic insiders. But Justice Department guidelines restrict prosecutors from taking such actions within 60 days of an election because they might affect the outcome of the election. Both Durham and Dannehy believed that if they complied with Barr’s demands they would be violating this doctrine, according to two people familiar with their thinking.
Durham, who is the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut, and Dannehy were also troubled that Barr had purposely misrepresented their work in numerous public comments, the two people said. According to two sources familiar with the probe, there has been no evidence found, after 18 months of investigation, to support Barr’s claims that Trump was targeted by politically biased Obama officials to prevent his election. (The probe remains ongoing.) In fact, the sources said, the Durham investigation has so far uncovered no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden or Barack Obama, or that they were even involved with the Russia investigation. There “was no evidence … not even remotely … indicating Obama or Biden did anything wrong,” as one person put it.
Shortly after the resignation of his prized deputy and with the election looming on the horizon, Durham phoned Barr. He forcefully told the attorney general that his office would not be releasing a report or taking any other significant public actions before Election Day, according to a person with knowledge of the phone call. Dannehy’s resignation constituted an implied but unspoken threat to Barr that Durham or others on his team might resign if the attorney general attempted to force the issue, according to a person familiar with Durham’s thinking.
After hearing from Durham in September, Barr informed the president and allies that there would be no October surprise, causing Trump to lash out. “Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes — the greatest political crimes in the history of our country — then we’re going to get little satisfaction unless I win,” he told Fox Business last month. “[These] people should be indicted, this was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. And that includes Obama and it includes Biden.”
The president had been hoping for a repeat of what happened during the 2016 election, when, with just 11 days left, then-FBI director James Comey announced the reopening of the bureau’s Hillary Clinton email investigation. Comey’s decision is widely seen to have hurt Clinton at a crucial moment and helped Trump pull off a come-from-behind victory. For more than a year and a half, Trump believed that Durham’s investigation would confirm the conspiracy theory that the “deep state” — senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, and intelligence community — had worked to sabotage his presidency with false accusations that he had colluded with Russia. The Justice Department’s inspector general last year reported finding no “evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions” of the Russia investigators, and so far, the only charge brought by Durham’s office has been against an ex-FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to falsifying an email used to obtain a warrant for electronic surveillance on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
For his part, Barr was hyping what the Durham investigation would find since at least the spring and suggested it would be bad for Democrats. “There is a difference between an abuse of power and a federal crime. Not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is a federal crime,” Barr told reporters in May. “As to President Obama and Vice-President Biden, whatever their level of involvement, based on the information I have today, I don’t expect Mr. Durham’s work will lead to a criminal investigation of either man. Our concern over potential criminality is focused on others.” One person familiar with the Durham investigation called Barr’s comments a backhanded attempt to insinuate that Obama and Biden had abused their powers. Barr’s ongoing commentary regarding Durham’s investigation appears to have violated Justice Department policy that officials should “not confirm the existence or otherwise comment about ongoing investigations.”
While discussing Durham’s investigation, Barr’s rhetoric also increasingly paralleled Trump’s. In contrast to the president, Barr delivered his comments in a measured and restrained manner, while Trump’s claims have been coarse and hyperbolic. Barr has suggested that the DOJ and FBI’s investigations of the president was “one of the greatest travesties” in American history and a “bogus scandal,” whereas Trump simply called the investigations a “hoax.” Barr has said the “greatest danger to our free system” is when law enforcement and intelligence agencies try to “affect the outcome of an election.” Trump accused them of an attempted “coup” against him. Barr has said that the “completely bogus narrative” caused by the investigations “was largely fanned and hyped by a completely irresponsible press.” Trump blamed the “fake media,” period.
After hearing there would be no October surprise, Trump excoriated Barr, telling Rush Limbaugh: “I think it’s a terrible thing, and I’ll say it to his face.”
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93