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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    The Dems need a brand manager and PR firm 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    edited June 2020
    Biden
    cincybearcat said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    The Dems need a brand manager and PR firm 
    They should hire the guys from the Lincoln Project. Republicans are just better at that stuff.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

    https://apple.news/AqN3C4gWXRP2u5UQKIdXhAA
    And Trump is still saying 96% approval among Republicans! Put aside the fact that he's touting an out of date poll, the number of people who associate themselves with the Republican party keeps dwindling...
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

    https://apple.news/AqN3C4gWXRP2u5UQKIdXhAA
    And Trump is still saying 96% approval among Republicans! Put aside the fact that he's touting an out of date poll, the number of people who associate themselves with the Republican party keeps dwindling...
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  • wndowpayne
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    If all the protesters get out and vote, there is no way Trump gets re-elected.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

    https://apple.news/AqN3C4gWXRP2u5UQKIdXhAA
    And Trump is still saying 96% approval among Republicans! Put aside the fact that he's touting an out of date poll, the number of people who associate themselves with the Republican party keeps dwindling...
    details are for losers
    Ha!  Love it. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

    https://apple.news/AqN3C4gWXRP2u5UQKIdXhAA
    And Trump is still saying 96% approval among Republicans! Put aside the fact that he's touting an out of date poll, the number of people who associate themselves with the Republican party keeps dwindling...
    I've never seen him less than 85% with Republicans.  It's the Party of Trump and will be until a lot of time has moved on post-Trump (which could start in January or any time over the subsequent several decades).

    But the second thing...the number of Republicans, is an interesting point.  I don't know what the numbers are, but it makes intuitive sense that if the GOP is going to be the Party of Trump that people sick of Trump will simply stop identifying themselves are Republicans.  I wonder how/whether they'll vote (Biden? Trump? Third? None?) and whether they'll stick with their former party (where you still have to align with Trump to succeed) in other races.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
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    Biden wisely doesn't get to far ahead of the country on this, especially when the language is misleading and ripe for wedging.  

    https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-defund-police-7cd5aa47-57f3-4cd0-856b-0a68792f52cd.html
  • wndowpayne
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    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-meet-george-floyds-family-funeral-71124059?cid=clicksource_4380645_8_heads_posts_headlines_hed



    Another reason. Do you think Trump could pull this off?
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

    https://apple.news/AqN3C4gWXRP2u5UQKIdXhAA
    And Trump is still saying 96% approval among Republicans! Put aside the fact that he's touting an out of date poll, the number of people who associate themselves with the Republican party keeps dwindling...
    I've never seen him less than 85% with Republicans.  It's the Party of Trump and will be until a lot of time has moved on post-Trump (which could start in January or any time over the subsequent several decades).

    But the second thing...the number of Republicans, is an interesting point.  I don't know what the numbers are, but it makes intuitive sense that if the GOP is going to be the Party of Trump that people sick of Trump will simply stop identifying themselves are Republicans.  I wonder how/whether they'll vote (Biden? Trump? Third? None?) and whether they'll stick with their former party (where you still have to align with Trump to succeed) in other races.

    Trust me, they will drop Trump very quickly after November 3rd. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Biden wisely doesn't get to far ahead of the country on this, especially when the language is misleading and ripe for wedging.  

    https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-defund-police-7cd5aa47-57f3-4cd0-856b-0a68792f52cd.html
    Why don't they just call it "Reforming the Police Departments" or something. Talk about shooting themselves in the feet...
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  • Kat
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    edited June 2020
    Biden
    Michael Steele was doing analysis about Colin Powell's appearance over the weekend and he mentioned there is a coalition of center left and center right voters. If that's what is happening to get soul-eater voted out, I'm really good with that. Lots of changes have to come in the future but they come over time. It's not good to lurch this way and that. imho of course. Have a great Monday, all.

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    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    Biden
    Kat said:
    Michael Steele was doing analysis about Colin Powell's appearance over the weekend and he mentioned there is a coalition of center left and center right voters. If that's what is happening to get soul-eater voted out, I'm really good with that. Lots of changes have to come in the future but they come over time. It's not good to lurch this way and that. imho of course. Have a great Monday, all.

    Independents have always decided who wins, this play to the base is garbage....
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    what dreams said:
    Not sure if this question has been pondered here: Does anybody else in hindsight wish they had supported someone else leading up to the Super Tuesday crowning of Biden?

    I had finally narrowed my choice to Amy Klobuchar, after toying with several others. While I believe she's sincere in explaining away her record, that she's committed to new ways of thinking now, I understand why she is a problematic VP pick and hope Biden does not select her.

    However, at one point, I looked closely at Elizabeth Warren, and I am really wishing now that she were our nominee. I wish I had seen better that our country needs what she was offering and then helped promote her campaign.

    Sleepy Joe is going to blow it. I just feel it in me. Given the enormous challenges we face, that nobody had on their radar in January and February, I really wonder whether he's got enough life left in him to meet the task. I wish I could report feeling differently, because even though I didn't want to vote for him, I did speak strongly against the ageism -- just three months ago. But man, he's gotta step up. 

    I could see battleground state america voting for a white socialist leaning woman as much as I can see Trump jamming in the Oval Office to Lucious Jackson.

    I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
  • The Juggler
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
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    The Juggler said:




    Poor Jimmy Carter. Being lumped in with the likes of Trump. Trump is in a class by himself and hopefully will be the only one of his kind.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    The Juggler said:




    Poor Jimmy Carter. Being lumped in with the likes of Trump. Trump is in a class by himself and hopefully will be the only one of his kind.
    Can you imagine how much this headline, on Drudge of all places, pisses off Trump? 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,961
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    Kat said:
    Michael Steele was doing analysis about Colin Powell's appearance over the weekend and he mentioned there is a coalition of center left and center right voters. If that's what is happening to get soul-eater voted out, I'm really good with that. Lots of changes have to come in the future but they come over time. It's not good to lurch this way and that. imho of course. Have a great Monday, all.

    Independents have always decided who wins, this play to the base is garbage....
    Independents don't often elected a candidate in a primary.  That's the problem.  The primaries are the problem.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    The Juggler said:




    Poor Jimmy Carter. Being lumped in with the likes of Trump. Trump is in a class by himself and hopefully will be the only one of his kind.
    But Jimmy’s going to heaven and Team Trump Treason to Hell, killer attack rabbits be damned.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
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    tbergs said:
    The Juggler said:

    Poor Jimmy Carter. Being lumped in with the likes of Trump. Trump is in a class by himself and hopefully will be the only one of his kind.
    Carter is before my time...but he must have been really ineffective.  Because Trump is not just a terrible president, but a disgrace to the office and a terrible person.  Jimmy wasn't the latter two...but the little I do know, his presidency was a disaster.  Then again, Jimmy might be the most decent guy to hold that office.  Nice guys finish last...

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