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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    Biden

    No 'silver lining': Trump faces voter backlash amid crises
    By STEVE PEOPLES and SCOTT BAUER
    Today

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — At the end of one of his most turbulent weeks in office, President Donald Trump was eager on Friday to boast of a better than expected jobs report to argue the country is poised for a booming recovery. Benjamin Lund was not moved.

    The 45-year-old Milwaukee man is a longtime Republican who was raised in a conservative family in the political battleground of Wisconsin. At the onset of 2020, he had little doubt that he would support Trump's reelection.

    Then the pandemic hit and Lund lost his restaurant job. A processing backlog meant he went two months without unemployment benefits. He later watched with dismay Trump's hard-line response to the police killing of George Floyd and the civil unrest that followed.

    Lund, who is white, now plans to vote a straight Democratic ticket and rejects any effort by Trump to put a “silver lining” on the nation's pain.


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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Biden
    Not sure if this question has been pondered here: Does anybody else in hindsight wish they had supported someone else leading up to the Super Tuesday crowning of Biden?

    I had finally narrowed my choice to Amy Klobuchar, after toying with several others. While I believe she's sincere in explaining away her record, that she's committed to new ways of thinking now, I understand why she is a problematic VP pick and hope Biden does not select her.

    However, at one point, I looked closely at Elizabeth Warren, and I am really wishing now that she were our nominee. I wish I had seen better that our country needs what she was offering and then helped promote her campaign.

    Sleepy Joe is going to blow it. I just feel it in me. Given the enormous challenges we face, that nobody had on their radar in January and February, I really wonder whether he's got enough life left in him to meet the task. I wish I could report feeling differently, because even though I didn't want to vote for him, I did speak strongly against the ageism -- just three months ago. But man, he's gotta step up. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Biden
    what dreams said:
    Not sure if this question has been pondered here: Does anybody else in hindsight wish they had supported someone else leading up to the Super Tuesday crowning of Biden?

    I had finally narrowed my choice to Amy Klobuchar, after toying with several others. While I believe she's sincere in explaining away her record, that she's committed to new ways of thinking now, I understand why she is a problematic VP pick and hope Biden does not select her.

    However, at one point, I looked closely at Elizabeth Warren, and I am really wishing now that she were our nominee. I wish I had seen better that our country needs what she was offering and then helped promote her campaign.

    Sleepy Joe is going to blow it. I just feel it in me. Given the enormous challenges we face, that nobody had on their radar in January and February, I really wonder whether he's got enough life left in him to meet the task. I wish I could report feeling differently, because even though I didn't want to vote for him, I did speak strongly against the ageism -- just three months ago. But man, he's gotta step up. 
    Joe was way down my list. But in a strange way I think he might end up being the best candidate for the moment. I think he is going to pick a tremendous VP and set the US up for the first female president.

    There is a lot I dislike about Joe. But he has been in the White House and has a long career. What we will need immediately jan 2021 is someone that can really start working ASAP with no on the job learning. Much to be done. I feel Joe will be able to get things moving fast and provide stable yet forward focused leadership. 


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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    Biden
       
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Bentleyspop said:
       
    Commie liberal who hates our soldiers. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,068
    Biden
    Bentleyspop said:
       
    Drifted? Was he ever anywhere near it?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    He’s not HRC...


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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Biden
    Hey, it is what is is...

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Hey, it is what is is...

    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1269761532033937412?s=21
    Probably 30
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    Comparing last two incumbents:


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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,352
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    I don't entirely disagree.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:

    No 'silver lining': Trump faces voter backlash amid crises
    By STEVE PEOPLES and SCOTT BAUER
    Today

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — At the end of one of his most turbulent weeks in office, President Donald Trump was eager on Friday to boast of a better than expected jobs report to argue the country is poised for a booming recovery. Benjamin Lund was not moved.

    The 45-year-old Milwaukee man is a longtime Republican who was raised in a conservative family in the political battleground of Wisconsin. At the onset of 2020, he had little doubt that he would support Trump's reelection.

    Then the pandemic hit and Lund lost his restaurant job. A processing backlog meant he went two months without unemployment benefits. He later watched with dismay Trump's hard-line response to the police killing of George Floyd and the civil unrest that followed.

    Lund, who is white, now plans to vote a straight Democratic ticket and rejects any effort by Trump to put a “silver lining” on the nation's pain.


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    He fucking shared that Candace Owens video where she bashes George Floyd.  How does he get away with this shit?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    Wedge issue
  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    Wedge issue
    I'd be interested to see what the polling looks like on this in a week or two. Right now Biden is absolutely destroying Trump on race relations and the response to the George Floyd stuff. But, I tend to agree that most people would not be for defunding the police simply because they don't understand what it means. This country has been defunding education for decades. But, yeah--I agree that this stuff is not going to be helpful. 
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  • pjl44
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    I'm sitting this one out
    OnWis97 said:
    Right now, the City of Minneapolis is unwittingly campaigning for Trump.  And it’s going to be effective.  Suburbanites are gonna be scared of phrases like “defund the police.”
    Especially when the end result is likely going to seem way different than how that headline reads. There's a lot of weird framing and weird slogans that I worry will obscure serious reform that most people can get behind.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Juggler said:
    I only hope Biden’s not peaking too soon at this point...


    And women tend to vote in higher percentages than men.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Right, it's easy to equate Defund with Dissolve.  
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Right, it's easy to equate Defund with Dissolve.  
    That's what it sounds like, right? And even when you do see dissolution (like what's happening in Minneapolis), it seems to mean "the county takes over certain aspects." Weird, weird, weird.

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