Listen I know nobody wants the DNC to subvert democracy and take the "choice" out of the publics hands, but come on. Pick Michelle Obama as vice, Drop Joe promote Michelle then put some milquetoast conservative in the VP slot so we don't alienate the republican "allies". 8 more years of conservative Neo-Liberalism for all lol
What’s really interesting are the DEM progressive candidates that are winning their primaries against established party Dems installed by the Deep State. That’s how you build a movement and nominate a progressive Dem presidential candidate eventually as opposed to being an indy that caucuses with the dems, then pretends to be one and complains when their hijacking of the party fails. Question remains, as time marches on, will they build on their coalition or reach for the stars too soon and create a backlash? Poor Bernie, 10-20 years too soon.
warren was my choice (as much choice as a canadian can have). just my two cents. so, in american, it's my 1.6 cents.
Darwinspeed, all.
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People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
everyone getting concerned about biden gaffes needs to take a long, hard look at trump. that motherfucker is the dumbest, laziest man on the planet. he does multiple gaffes on a daily basis. he even said they beirut explosion was an attack. this is the kind of shit that gets wars started.
at least biden is trying and is coming from the right place.
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People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
it all, unfortunately, is going to come down to the marketing: how convincing can the trump campaign be with the american voter that his idiocy is less dangerous than biden's apparent decline. and how convincing the biden campaign be that trump is unfit and he knows which venue he's currently speaking in.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
how so? you think trump supporters give two shits about how he said tailand? some people are going to honestly be asking themselves, justified or not, one question: would i rather have an idiot in office or someone who doesn't know where they are?
This is starting to feel like 2016 all over again. The DNC pushed the candidate on us that has the most history of towing their party line, with absolutely no consideration to the amount of ammo that the other side has to throw at him. And now It’s looking like they’re picking a VP that also comes with immediate baggage and is an easy target. Unreal.
What some of you don’t seem to realize is that there are tons of people that sit at home and don’t know the first thing about any of this. They see an ad that brings up ties to Banghazi and they say to themselves “Hey I watched that Michael Bay movie a few years ago and Benghazi was bad!!!” That same person may hate Trump, but with all of the shit being slung at Biden/Rice that person will choose to sit out the election. There is zero passion behind this campaign just like Clinton in 2016. The only passion is that it isn’t Trump. That might be enough this time around after dealing with him for 4 years but I’m nervous.
How long until this becomes a reality and how vehemently will people justify it. I mean they let Reagan serve out his term.
Thanks for pushing Putin on the ritz. Got an answer? Here’s mine, 160,000 covid dead and counting, how worse can it get before, “it just goes away like things go away?”
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who among you has searched for the entire interview to watch that instead of cherry picked shit of twitter.
TWITTER IS EVIL.
I take it that ABC, Yahoo, and Politico are evil too?
Fortunately for us, we have non-evil entities like CNN, USA Today, and the Guardian to give us Trump’s idiotic quotes without context. Are you going to search for Trump’s entire speech to get the context?
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
how so? you think trump supporters give two shits about how he said tailand? some people are going to honestly be asking themselves, justified or not, one question: would i rather have an idiot in office or someone who doesn't know where they are?
So we know Trump is an idiot based on a thousand things he has said and done for 3 5 years, far more than not knowing how to pronounce Thailand. Are you telling me that you don't think Biden knows where he is at a given moment? Is that a joke? A real belief on your part?
who among you has searched for the entire interview to watch that instead of cherry picked shit of twitter.
TWITTER IS EVIL.
I take it that ABC, Yahoo, and Politico are evil too?
Fortunately for us, we have non-evil entities like CNN, USA Today, and the Guardian to give us Trump’s idiotic quotes without context. Are you going to search for Trump’s entire speech to get the context?
What's you point? No one is arguing that he isn't facing some mild and manufactured backlash. Explain to me how his statement in that interview shows he has dementia. Don't prove how media overreacts. That's not news.
who among you has searched for the entire interview to watch that instead of cherry picked shit of twitter.
TWITTER IS EVIL.
I take it that ABC, Yahoo, and Politico are evil too?
Fortunately for us, we have non-evil entities like CNN, USA Today, and the Guardian to give us Trump’s idiotic quotes without context. Are you going to search for Trump’s entire speech to get the context?
What's you point? No one is arguing that he isn't facing some mild and manufactured backlash. Explain to me how his statement in that interview shows he has dementia. Don't prove how media overreacts. That's not news.
I said "They really should just lock him down and not let him say a word until the debates" because he does himself no favors with any of the interviews he does. I made no mention of "dementia." You're the one bringing up dementia. And my posts of those screenshots are in response to Mickeyrat saying "TWITTER IS EVIL" as a way to show it's no more "evil" than any other outlet.
who among you has searched for the entire interview to watch that instead of cherry picked shit of twitter.
TWITTER IS EVIL.
I take it that ABC, Yahoo, and Politico are evil too?
Fortunately for us, we have non-evil entities like CNN, USA Today, and the Guardian to give us Trump’s idiotic quotes without context. Are you going to search for Trump’s entire speech to get the context?
What's you point? No one is arguing that he isn't facing some mild and manufactured backlash. Explain to me how his statement in that interview shows he has dementia. Don't prove how media overreacts. That's not news.
I said "They really should just lock him down and not let him say a word until the debates" because he does himself no favors with any of the interviews he does. I made no mention of "dementia." You're the one bringing up dementia. And my posts of those screenshots are in response to Mickeyrat saying "TWITTER IS EVIL" as a way to show it's no more "evil" than any other outlet.
Fair.. but I disagree with the premise. If no one can tell me how the his words were racist or even wrong, then why lock him up? You're not going to stop selective editing. I would argue it's impossible to speak in sentences that could NEVER be manipulated by another to seem offensive, particularly when speaking of sensitive racial issues.
Second, I think Micky's point was that if you watched the whole clip rather than the selected one from Twitter, you will see this is a little ado about even less. He said Twitter is evil...I don't necessarily agree. Twitter is a nightmare but it's the people using it and believing it that are the problem.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
Okay, I don't disagree with a word of this. But obviously, it's easier for you to articulate this point on a message board than it is for Joe Biden to say it live on TV. When I'm critical of these sort of Biden quotes, it's not because I give a shit what he thinks or says. I'm not woke enough (or woke at all) to be like "How dare he disparage the African American community like that!" No, I'm looking at it from an electioneering standpoint: his gaffes give fuel to use against him, and his gaffes can be spun. If he wasn't running against the worst incumbent president ever, this sort of stuff might hurt him big time.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
Okay, I don't disagree with a word of this. But obviously, it's easier for you to articulate this point on a message board than it is for Joe Biden to say it live on TV. When I'm critical of these sort of Biden quotes, it's not because I give a shit what he thinks or says. I'm not woke enough (or woke at all) to be like "How dare he disparage the African American community like that!" No, I'm looking at it from an electioneering standpoint: his gaffes give fuel to use against him, and his gaffes can be spun. If he wasn't running against the worst incumbent president ever, this sort of stuff might hurt him big time.
Bingo. Expecting the average undecided voter to understand the intricacies of that point is foolhardy.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
Okay, I don't disagree with a word of this. But obviously, it's easier for you to articulate this point on a message board than it is for Joe Biden to say it live on TV. When I'm critical of these sort of Biden quotes, it's not because I give a shit what he thinks or says. I'm not woke enough (or woke at all) to be like "How dare he disparage the African American community like that!" No, I'm looking at it from an electioneering standpoint: his gaffes give fuel to use against him, and his gaffes can be spun. If he wasn't running against the worst incumbent president ever, this sort of stuff might hurt him big time.
Same I’m still voting for the guy. It just surprises me that him speaking is his biggest weakness. The lengths people go to to pretend that he isn’t a terrible candidate that would likely lose to any contender that wasn’t Trump is amazing. I’m just waiting for him to announce a former Republican as a running mate and see how that gets justified.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
Okay, I don't disagree with a word of this. But obviously, it's easier for you to articulate this point on a message board than it is for Joe Biden to say it live on TV. When I'm critical of these sort of Biden quotes, it's not because I give a shit what he thinks or says. I'm not woke enough (or woke at all) to be like "How dare he disparage the African American community like that!" No, I'm looking at it from an electioneering standpoint: his gaffes give fuel to use against him, and his gaffes can be spun. If he wasn't running against the worst incumbent president ever, this sort of stuff might hurt him big time.
Bingo. Expecting the average undecided voter to understand the intricacies of that point is foolhardy.
Team Trump would do this kind of stuff to whoever the democratic nominee was. So I don't really understand the panic, this kind of dirty politics was expected and baked in.
People overreact to these gaffes. My goodness, folks. Have you not paid attention to Biden for the last 40 years? He makes gaffes regularly. But he's running against a guy who says and utterly crazy shit on an hourly basis. That is why this stuff today, like the "you ain't black" thing from three months ago won't amount to a hill of beans either.
Jeez.
i have not paid attention to biden the last 40 years. i didn't know who he was until he was VP. judging by the average american voter, most of them hadn't either.
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
Except his point was fundamentally accurate.
What point are you talking about? That the African American community isn't diverse?
That the AA community can be considered more homogeneous than the Latino community. The AA community has been in this country for centuries and has developed the culture we have today. Music, film, literature, etc. are all heavily influenced by them. The Latino communities are comprised of immigrants from countries that have their own unique cultures very different from one another. Mexico is a different world than Cuba, as an example. That's the point he was making. Of course the AA community is not completely homogeneous, just like the White community isn't.
Okay, I don't disagree with a word of this. But obviously, it's easier for you to articulate this point on a message board than it is for Joe Biden to say it live on TV. When I'm critical of these sort of Biden quotes, it's not because I give a shit what he thinks or says. I'm not woke enough (or woke at all) to be like "How dare he disparage the African American community like that!" No, I'm looking at it from an electioneering standpoint: his gaffes give fuel to use against him, and his gaffes can be spun. If he wasn't running against the worst incumbent president ever, this sort of stuff might hurt him big time.
Bingo. Expecting the average undecided voter to understand the intricacies of that point is foolhardy.
Team Trump would do this kind of stuff to whoever the democratic nominee was. So I don't really understand the panic, this kind of dirty politics was expected and baked in.
Of course he would. But you don’t think that some candidates are easier targets than others?
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Jeez.
at least biden is trying and is coming from the right place.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
it won't amount to a hill of beans to people who are already voting for him. but you can't honestly tell me that fence sitters and trump supporters considering moving left aren't looking at this and going "hmm....maybe he really is losing his mind".
just because it's not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it won't have an effect on the election.
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What some of you don’t seem to realize is that there are tons of people that sit at home and don’t know the first thing about any of this. They see an ad that brings up ties to Banghazi and they say to themselves “Hey I watched that Michael Bay movie a few years ago and Benghazi was bad!!!” That same person may hate Trump, but with all of the shit being slung at Biden/Rice that person will choose to sit out the election. There is zero passion behind this campaign just like Clinton in 2016. The only passion is that it isn’t Trump. That might be enough this time around after dealing with him for 4 years but I’m nervous.
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Fortunately for us, we have non-evil entities like CNN, USA Today, and the Guardian to give us Trump’s idiotic quotes without context. Are you going to search for Trump’s entire speech to get the context?
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Second, I think Micky's point was that if you watched the whole clip rather than the selected one from Twitter, you will see this is a little ado about even less. He said Twitter is evil...I don't necessarily agree. Twitter is a nightmare but it's the people using it and believing it that are the problem.
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