Some fans have wondered why the famous version of “Breath” from the second
Madison Square Garden show wasn’t included.
Well, New York City unions charge 10 or 12 grand to record, so we didn’t
record it! There were a couple of shows along those lines. Montreal was the
same thing. They wanted a ton of money. Sadly, those end up being some
of the best shows. This was at a point where we didn’t even know we were
working on a live record. Was it worth it dollar-wise to pay all that money just
to have some tapes sit in a vault? Turns out maybe, but that’s hindsight.
There have been a couple authorized releases of live PJ shows from prior to
1998. In your estimation, are there more shows or material from that era that
could see the light of day? T
here are lots of incompletes because of the technology, and my main focus
being on mixing the band first and foremost. There’s some stuff in there for
sure. I think they like to spread things around, in terms of looking that far
back. But there’s definitely more to cull from that era.
Some fans have wondered why the famous version of “Breath” from the second
Madison Square Garden show wasn’t included.
Well, New York City unions charge 10 or 12 grand to record, so we didn’t
record it! There were a couple of shows along those lines. Montreal was the
same thing. They wanted a ton of money. Sadly, those end up being some
of the best shows. This was at a point where we didn’t even know we were
working on a live record. Was it worth it dollar-wise to pay all that money just
to have some tapes sit in a vault? Turns out maybe, but that’s hindsight.
haven't had a chance to download yet, is he talking about the end of the show, or the show entirely. I know there are issues in terms of curfew/overtime. That would totally suck if it was the whole shows because damn, that means both nights of Randalls Island might not be in multi track either.
That being said...I forgot...what was the last year they did physical copies of Deep? Or will we get physical copies for these?
The last copy of DEEP was sent with the 2017 RnRHOF single. We should still be getting physical copies of these editions of DEEP. They are still offering DEEP as a member perk so we should be getting 2019 and 2020 as well, eventually.
Love the Warren Zevon song. I got to see Ed perform it at Ohana.
I remember when the song was originally released by Warren Zevon. He had terminal cancer, and he released an album with the song on it. It was very bittersweet to hear a song about his "pending demise" (his words).
There have been a couple authorized releases of live PJ shows from prior to
1998. In your estimation, are there more shows or material from that era that
could see the light of day?
T
here are lots of incompletes because of the technology, and my main focus
being on mixing the band first and foremost. There’s some stuff in there for
sure. I think they like to spread things around, in terms of looking that far
back. But there’s definitely more to cull from that era.
So they hint at more older stuff, but from January 1, 2000 and on, how much more is there to be released? Would people buy an epic show on record that has been on CD for many years?
They won't do it, but a re-release of Benny as a vault would make loads of money. The red vinyl would still be collectable. The Gorge shows on vinyl, maybe? Vote For Change?
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There have been a couple authorized releases of live PJ shows from prior to
1998. In your estimation, are there more shows or material from that era that
could see the light of day?
T
here are lots of incompletes because of the technology, and my main focus
being on mixing the band first and foremost. There’s some stuff in there for
sure. I think they like to spread things around, in terms of looking that far
back. But there’s definitely more to cull from that era.
So they hint at more older stuff, but from January 1, 2000 and on, how much more is there to be released? Would people buy an epic show on record that has been on CD for many years?
They won't do it, but a re-release of Benny as a vault would make loads of money. The red vinyl would still be collectable. The Gorge shows on vinyl, maybe? Vote For Change?
The 2007 shows (Copenhagen for god sakes. Or the London show where the whole floor was only tenclub) The 2004 shows (Neil in Toledo, come ooooooon) The Letterman show in 2006(?) The Shepherd Bush show in 2009.
And I guess more. I'm not a nerd. They have shown there are the odd charity gig and the like that hasn't been released.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
There have been a couple authorized releases of live PJ shows from prior to
1998. In your estimation, are there more shows or material from that era that
could see the light of day?
T
here are lots of incompletes because of the technology, and my main focus
being on mixing the band first and foremost. There’s some stuff in there for
sure. I think they like to spread things around, in terms of looking that far
back. But there’s definitely more to cull from that era.
So they hint at more older stuff, but from January 1, 2000 and on, how much more is there to be released? Would people buy an epic show on record that has been on CD for many years?
They won't do it, but a re-release of Benny as a vault would make loads of money. The red vinyl would still be collectable. The Gorge shows on vinyl, maybe? Vote For Change?
Hunted Down is awesome! Missing is different than the Seattle show? Sounds different, almost as if the vocals were re-recorded or something. Sounds better to me than the Seattle version though! Keep Me In Your Heart from the Letterman Tribute is awesome too. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think Wildflowers, one of my favorite Petty songs ever, may be the weakest link. I think Ed's done it better live.
Anyway its a super awesome treat! Bittersweet its the end but not a bad way to wrap up. Thanks again PJ for the soundtrack of my life!
Hunted Down is awesome! Missing is different than the Seattle show? Sounds different, almost as if the vocals were re-recorded or something. Sounds better to me than the Seattle version though! Keep Me In Your Heart from the Letterman Tribute is awesome too. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think Wildflowers, one of my favorite Petty songs ever, may be the weakest link. I think Ed's done it better live.
Anyway its a super awesome treat! Bittersweet its the end but not a bad way to wrap up. Thanks again PJ for the soundtrack of my life!
Isn't it the chicago version? Missing.
Only listened to Wildflowers once, but it felt a bit rushed to me. Like it was rushing through. But I was stressed and listening with one ear at the moment.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
🤣🤣🤣 naughty! Bet they will be glad that PJ have umm...done the right thing 😉😊👍🏻
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It's an art to live with pain, mix the light into grey...
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Wembley Arena, London - 18/06/07
02 Arena, London - 18/08/09
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It's an art to live with pain, mix the light into grey...
Someone mentioned VFC shows, and they play them a lot on their Sirius channel, so I don't know why they haven't been released. Same with the '98 shows, I'm pretty sure there have been a lot of those on there.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't had satellite radio in a LONG time. Same songs over and over. Not worth it for me. Alexa can play the same songs over and over and it doesn't cost me $10 per month, but I'm probably way off topic now so I'll stop.
Some fans have wondered why the famous version of “Breath” from the second
Madison Square Garden show wasn’t included.
Well, New York City unions charge 10 or 12 grand to record, so we didn’t
record it! There were a couple of shows along those lines. Montreal was the
same thing. They wanted a ton of money. Sadly, those end up being some
of the best shows. This was at a point where we didn’t even know we were
working on a live record. Was it worth it dollar-wise to pay all that money just
to have some tapes sit in a vault? Turns out maybe, but that’s hindsight.
haven't had a chance to download yet, is he talking about the end of the show, or the show entirely. I know there are issues in terms of curfew/overtime. That would totally suck if it was the whole shows because damn, that means both nights of Randalls Island might not be in multi track either.
It sounds like he was talking about the whole show but I could be wrong. Was also interesting to hear him talk about the beginning of the Yield tour with Jack and the band feeling like they really weren't firing on all cylinders (when asked if they thought about including any songs from Jack shows). I thought one of those Melbourne shows (that was on the radio) was quite good. But they certainly have more of an ear for it than I do
And I never realized that they edited in a different solo for Even Flow. Although looking at Wiki, it clearly says it's taken from two shows. I guess I need to brush up on my knowledge.
Some fans have wondered why the famous version of “Breath” from the second
Madison Square Garden show wasn’t included.
Well, New York City unions charge 10 or 12 grand to record, so we didn’t
record it! There were a couple of shows along those lines. Montreal was the
same thing. They wanted a ton of money. Sadly, those end up being some
of the best shows. This was at a point where we didn’t even know we were
working on a live record. Was it worth it dollar-wise to pay all that money just
to have some tapes sit in a vault? Turns out maybe, but that’s hindsight.
Why would they have been charged to record when they would have been using their own equipment and people.
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Today is my birthday – don't tell my wife and kid, but these are the best part of the day. Wow, Wild Flowers and Hunted Down are both magical and haunting.
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Some fans have wondered why the famous version of “Breath” from the second Madison Square Garden show wasn’t included.
Well, New York City unions charge 10 or 12 grand to record, so we didn’t record it! There were a couple of shows along those lines. Montreal was the same thing. They wanted a ton of money. Sadly, those end up being some
of the best shows. This was at a point where we didn’t even know we were working on a live record. Was it worth it dollar-wise to pay all that money just to have some tapes sit in a vault? Turns out maybe, but that’s hindsight.
There have been a couple authorized releases of live PJ shows from prior to 1998. In your estimation, are there more shows or material from that era that could see the light of day?
T
here are lots of incompletes because of the technology, and my main focus being on mixing the band first and foremost. There’s some stuff in there for sure. I think they like to spread things around, in terms of looking that far back. But there’s definitely more to cull from that era.
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I remember when the song was originally released by Warren Zevon. He had terminal cancer, and he released an album with the song on it. It was very bittersweet to hear a song about his "pending demise" (his words).
So they hint at more older stuff, but from January 1, 2000 and on, how much more is there to be released? Would people buy an epic show on record that has been on CD for many years?
They won't do it, but a re-release of Benny as a vault would make loads of money. The red vinyl would still be collectable. The Gorge shows on vinyl, maybe? Vote For Change?
The 2004 shows (Neil in Toledo, come ooooooon)
The Letterman show in 2006(?)
The Shepherd Bush show in 2009.
And I guess more. I'm not a nerd.
They have shown there are the odd charity gig and the like that hasn't been released.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Only listened to Wildflowers once, but it felt a bit rushed to me. Like it was rushing through. But I was stressed and listening with one ear at the moment.
Wembley Arena, London - 30/05/00
Wembley Arena, London - 18/06/07
02 Arena, London - 18/08/09
Hammersmith Apollo, London - 30/07/12 EV Solo
Bowl, Milton Keynes - 11/07/2014
Hammersmith Apollo, London - 06/06/17 EV Solo
O2 Arena, London - 18/06/18
O2 Arena, London - 17/07/18
It's an art to live with pain, mix the light into grey...
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Wembley Arena, London - 30/05/00
Wembley Arena, London - 18/06/07
02 Arena, London - 18/08/09
Hammersmith Apollo, London - 30/07/12 EV Solo
Bowl, Milton Keynes - 11/07/2014
Hammersmith Apollo, London - 06/06/17 EV Solo
O2 Arena, London - 18/06/18
O2 Arena, London - 17/07/18
It's an art to live with pain, mix the light into grey...
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't had satellite radio in a LONG time. Same songs over and over. Not worth it for me. Alexa can play the same songs over and over and it doesn't cost me $10 per month, but I'm probably way off topic now so I'll stop.
Was also interesting to hear him talk about the beginning of the Yield tour with Jack and the band feeling like they really weren't firing on all cylinders (when asked if they thought about including any songs from Jack shows). I thought one of those Melbourne shows (that was on the radio) was quite good. But they certainly have more of an ear for it than I do
And I never realized that they edited in a different solo for Even Flow. Although looking at Wiki, it clearly says it's taken from two shows. I guess I need to brush up on my knowledge.
he just gives it away...
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Wow! We can put a pin in the 2016/2017, 2018 controversy, finally!
Way more fun than reading online IMO
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