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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,514
    I keep going back to Comes then Goes. That one is special. 
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  • vitovito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    drakeheuer14 said:
    I keep going back to Comes then Goes. That one is special. 
    Great song, great  lyrics...wonder if it really is about or for CC?
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  • rtwilli4rtwilli4 Posts: 261
    EarlWelsh said:
    My personal favorite since Riot Act. Second half is especially awesome but the whole thing is really beautiful. Amazing headphone record.
    This. 
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,953
    Great record, gets better with every listen
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,953
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
    That’s the one song where I don’t get the lyrics at all 
  • Red MosqitoRed Mosqito Posts: 1,239
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
    Is it the "She was a singer in a rock n' roll band" line??
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    JPPJ84 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
    That’s the one song where I don’t get the lyrics at all 
    I’m not sure why but I feel like it’s somehow about climate change. The “she” at the end being Mother Nature.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    EarlWelsh said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
    That’s the one song where I don’t get the lyrics at all 
    I’m not sure why but I feel like it’s somehow about climate change. The “she” at the end being Mother Nature.
     I‘ll read the lyrics again tomorrow with that in mind! But that in a rockband/hologram lyric?! Hmmm
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    JPPJ84 said:
    EarlWelsh said:
    JPPJ84 said:
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Never destination is awesome. Got a little tom petty lyric in there 
    That’s the one song where I don’t get the lyrics at all 
    I’m not sure why but I feel like it’s somehow about climate change. The “she” at the end being Mother Nature.
     I‘ll read the lyrics again tomorrow with that in mind! But that in a rockband/hologram lyric?! Hmmm
    Not sure about the hologram bit, haha.

    ”She had command of all her voices” - I read this line as referring to a time when Earth wasn’t as effected by man’s existence as it is today

    ”It all came down to choices” - choices we can make individually or a on a larger scale legislatively

    Maybe the hologram bit refers to Mother Nature fading away due to our poor choices?
  • EarlWelshEarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Mother Nature as we know her, that is. Of course she’ll never really go away. She’ll have her way with us a million times over first, haha.
  • TinaETinaE Germany Posts: 1,826
    edited March 2020

    Brilliant album, comes especially well on headphones ... I like it a lot better than LB - the last 3 tracks from LB are too boring for me.I Like all songs on Gigaton. My absolute favorite so far: Quick Escape.
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  • jesselmsjesselms Posts: 41
    There is no filler on this album, haven’t been able to say that since vs 
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,953
    I like how when the drums kick in and then they play the guitar and the beat plays off the other instruments and then words come in and some rhyme. Then I press repeat. 
  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    On first listen, I thought it was great.  On each listen it just gets better and better.  A lot doesn't sound like their past, and some does.  I am so pleased with this one.
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,614
    It's always hard to rank albums, especially new ones.  The older ones connect us to a time/place that may always hold some emotional value to us.  

    That said, I REALLY REALLY like this new one.  I mean, its really good.  The lyrics and music are great.  Some are more challenging...I think I said before that Alright and Buckle Up were challenging me at the moment, and I think I get Alright now.  But Retrograde is challenging me. 
    And its not that they are bad, but it's just something new and really different. 

    The others, though...a lot of instant classics on here for me. 
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  • bigbiggzybigbiggzy Posts: 773
    Gigaton is among their best work. 

    Wherever that compares for you among their ‘best’ is up to each individual.  My humble .02 is that it is stellar...love it from start to finish.
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,953
    u can’t rank albums for atleast a year
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,877
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    u can’t rank albums for atleast a year
    But you can give one 8/10 two days after it comes out?
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,507
    Since Avocanto imo..
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,877
    edited March 2020
    23scidoo said:
    Since Avocanto imo..
    Could agree. At the same time I do not find it to be that superduper triumph over LB. I mean, LB had great songs.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,507
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    23scidoo said:
    Since Avocanto imo..
    Could agree. At the same time I do not find it to be that superduper triumph over LB. I mean, LB had great songs.
    Could agree too..but its clear Gigaton is another level..
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,419
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    23scidoo said:
    Since Avocanto imo..
    Could agree. At the same time I do not find it to be that superduper triumph over LB. I mean, LB had great songs.
    Yes... LB had some great songs. I agree.  But Gigaton wins because it’s a much more consistent effort front to back. It also has more layers and I don’t feel like it’s as easily figured out.  
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,877
    edited March 2020
    23scidoo said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    23scidoo said:
    Since Avocanto imo..
    Could agree. At the same time I do not find it to be that superduper triumph over LB. I mean, LB had great songs.
    Could agree too..but its clear Gigaton is another level..

    on2legs said:

    Yes... LB had some great songs. I agree.  But Gigaton wins because it’s a much more consistent effort front to back. It also has more layers and I don’t feel like it’s as easily figured out.  


     Well, put Pendulum on this album (wouldn't stick out). Yellow Moon fits Re-record Eddies vocals with this setup and give some of the LB songs (Getaway /Mind your manners maybe) a bit more... life/room/atmosphere. AND BAM! We're moving up levelwise.

    I don't know if I think the songs are that superior to some of the songs on LB. I just think this one is more interesting to listen to. Like sonics wise. There are things going on here. Moody sounds. Doesn't feel as "dead". And the LB/Unthought Known-type songs and MYM/CDM punkish songs are also gone. Which feels fresh.

    But it's been a while since I listened to LB - so maybe I am creating a memory of how it sounds.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    Travels With said:
    There's not a single song on this album that I want to skip.  I can't say that about too many albums.  LOVE this one.
    I'm with you on this.  That's usually a way to tell if an album is really good.  

    No tracks that I feel compelled to skip means the whole is GOOD!  When something is boring to listen to, I have to skip it. 
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  • SpartanacusSpartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 862
    primussucks said:
    Best album since Yield!  It's amazing!  Thank you PJ!
    Nothing to be sorry about, I agree 100%.  Although I also thought LB could be PJ's greatest when it came out...and that thought didn't age well (I still love ya LB!).  
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,058
    I have it as solid B+

    one more banger (even Of the Earth) in between the last 4 songs would have cemented it as an A

    thats just me being a lil selfish 😉
  • coach pjcoach pj Posts: 230
    I know it is all up to interpretation and opinion, but I love listening to this album from start to finish. I really think it is phenomenal. Not sure why some people do not like it.
  • eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 1,021
    https://www.hotpress.com/music/album-review-pearl-jam-gigaton-22810422

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
  • Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    Really top drawer album to my ears.
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