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dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 917
edited March 2020 in The Porch
Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
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    CS160564CS160564 Posts: 34
    It could very well be, haunting and deep.  Great chord changes too
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    KswheelerKswheeler Philadelphia Posts: 72
    Great track definitely Neil Young inspired in my opinion 
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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,765
    I don't think there is any question at all this is about Chris Cornell.  That being said, I don't think we will likely ever hear the man say, this song is for my friend Chris Cornell.  It is vague enough to not be clear enough, and yet spot on.
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    False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 745
    Took a while for me but when it clicks, boy does it click.  Anyone else get a Thin Air / Parting Ways vibe from it?  

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    KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 897
    False_Belief said:
    Took a while for me but when it clicks, boy does it click.  Anyone else get a Thin Air / Parting Ways vibe from it?  
    Yes, exactly what I heard as well. It’ a bit like off he goes got thrown in a blender with thin air, parting ways, and the into the wild album. All that is a positive in my mind. Maybe the best song on the album that isn’t Quick Escape.
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    GD274660GD274660 Posts: 514
    What a beautiful song, this is my favorite for sure. 
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    drummer1drummer1 Posts: 314
    Such a great track. I’ll listen for hints of Chris next time around. 
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    dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 917
    PB11041 said:
    I don't think there is any question at all this is about Chris Cornell.  That being said, I don't think we will likely ever hear the man say, this song is for my friend Chris Cornell.  It is vague enough to not be clear enough, and yet spot on.
    “Vague enough to not be clear enough, and yet spot on” is great way to describe the song.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    A friend of mine found this guitar tutorial for comes then goes if interested:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voRLI0IcHWc&feature=youtu.be
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    ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 631
    I heard Parting Ways the first time I played it.  Some of the same chords/progressions.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
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    VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,910
    The biggest surprise for me on the album.  It is one of my favorites.  Guitar sounds like Zeppelin-3 era Page acoustic.  Layering, texturing is great.
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    CPR7CPR7 Stade de France, July 10, 2016 Posts: 364
    dlymnfld said:
    Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
    100% written for Chris. And I do believe the last verse is about Vicky:

    "High or low, try again
    She fell off the altar
    A vision you caught her but then
    A woodcut in red
    I wish it was not you that she had led
    Selfish navigation with no end
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection
    In the face of rejection I'm trying
    I'm trying
    Evidence in the echoes of your mind
    Leads me to believe we missed the signs
    Can I try one last time?
    Could all use a savior from human behavior sometimes
    And the kids are alright
    The Queen of Collections took your time
    Sadness comes 'cause some of it was mine"
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    CS160564CS160564 Posts: 34
    Do we know who’s playing the acoustic guitar. Is it Stone?  Wikipedia for the album doesn’t list Ed playing guitar on any tracks.  I know wiki is unreliable so thought that can’t be right.
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    CS160564CS160564 Posts: 34
    To answer my own question:

    https://variety.com/2020/music/news/pearl-jam-gigaton-track-by-track-1203546989/amp/
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    Great tune
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    KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 897
    I can picture mike and ed coming out and doing this one like present tense. Encore 1 , first song
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    drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,382
    KN219077 said:
    I can picture mike and ed coming out and doing this one like present tense. Encore 1 , first song
    I hope
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    dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 705
    edited March 2020
    CPR7 said:
    dlymnfld said:
    Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
    100% written for Chris. And I do believe the last verse is about Vicky:

    "High or low, try again
    She fell off the altar
    A vision you caught her but then
    A woodcut in red
    I wish it was not you that she had led
    Selfish navigation with no end
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection
    In the face of rejection I'm trying
    I'm trying
    Evidence in the echoes of your mind
    Leads me to believe we missed the signs
    Can I try one last time?
    Could all use a savior from human behavior sometimes
    And the kids are alright
    The Queen of Collections took your time
    Sadness comes 'cause some of it was mine"
    Queen of Collections would be the Grim Reaper. 
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    rhcpjam1029rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,956
    dreamweaver said:
    CPR7 said:
    dlymnfld said:
    Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
    100% written for Chris. And I do believe the last verse is about Vicky:

    "High or low, try again
    She fell off the altar
    A vision you caught her but then
    A woodcut in red
    I wish it was not you that she had led
    Selfish navigation with no end
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection
    In the face of rejection I'm trying
    I'm trying
    Evidence in the echoes of your mind
    Leads me to believe we missed the signs
    Can I try one last time?
    Could all use a savior from human behavior sometimes
    And the kids are alright
    The Queen of Collections took your time
    Sadness comes 'cause some of it was mine"
    Queen of Collections would be the Grim Reaper. 
    agree; i think the "she" in the song is the allusive death, who Ed personified as a woman. i know there are rumors about ed's relationship with vicki, but i don't think ed is the type of person to throw shade at anyone, let alone in a tribute song to the man he saw as an older brother.
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    Butthead: Huh huh.
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    rhcpjam1029rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,956
    personally, this song hit me in the face. knowing that it was written for chris, i can hear ed going through each stage of grief in this song. there's so much hurt and pain here, it pains me to actually listen to it. one of the most powerful songs i've heard in the last decade. thank you for putting it out there for us, ed.
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    Butthead: It means that his friends are like turds and that they like suck.
    Beavis: Heh heh. Oh yeah. Yeah! Get those spoons out of my face before I shove them up your butt!
    Butthead: Huh huh.
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,204
    rhcpjam1029 said:
    dreamweaver said:
    CPR7 said:
    dlymnfld said:
    Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
    100% written for Chris. And I do believe the last verse is about Vicky:

    "High or low, try again
    She fell off the altar
    A vision you caught her but then
    A woodcut in red
    I wish it was not you that she had led
    Selfish navigation with no end
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection
    In the face of rejection I'm trying
    I'm trying
    Evidence in the echoes of your mind
    Leads me to believe we missed the signs
    Can I try one last time?
    Could all use a savior from human behavior sometimes
    And the kids are alright
    The Queen of Collections took your time
    Sadness comes 'cause some of it was mine"
    Queen of Collections would be the Grim Reaper. 
    agree; i think the "she" in the song is the allusive death, who Ed personified as a woman. i know there are rumors about ed's relationship with vicki, but i don't think ed is the type of person to throw shade at anyone, let alone in a tribute song to the man he saw as an older brother.
    Normally I would agree with you. It would seem very out of character for him to call someone out personally like that. But I’m not so sure in this instance. There are so many pictures/videos/stories that clearly show how inseparable Ed and Chris were. If one individual ruined all of that singlehandedly I could see him being pissed off enough to act out of character. Everyone reaches their breaking point eventually. Especially considering the tragedy that followed, eliminating any chance of reconciliation. 

    Im still not convinced that he’s talking about her, but I’m certainly not convinced that he isn’t, either. 
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    lotsalemonlotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,734

    This is one of my favorite tracks. It's gonna be a classic!
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    Peasant TentsPeasant Tents UK Posts: 834
    I hear the melody of Doesn't Remind Me at the beginning and end....  it is a magnificent song and a beautiful tribute. Incredibly moving and personal. 
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,745
    It pretty much has to be about Chris .. and even if it's not, my interpretation is it's about losing touch with a friendship and always taking for granted you'll have that moment to re-connect, until that person leaves the earth and you no longer can. 

    It's sort of the sad, cautionary conclusion to Off He Goes. Just a heart-wrenching song.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,745

    dreamweaver said:
    CPR7 said:
    dlymnfld said:
    Anyone else feel this was written with Chris in mind? There even appears to be a verse directed towards Vicki?  Either way it’s an amazing song and I also like The Who reference. Great Album. 
    100% written for Chris. And I do believe the last verse is about Vicky:

    "High or low, try again
    She fell off the altar
    A vision you caught her but then
    A woodcut in red
    I wish it was not you that she had led
    Selfish navigation with no end
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection
    In the face of rejection I'm trying
    I'm trying
    Evidence in the echoes of your mind
    Leads me to believe we missed the signs
    Can I try one last time?
    Could all use a savior from human behavior sometimes
    And the kids are alright
    The Queen of Collections took your time
    Sadness comes 'cause some of it was mine"
    Queen of Collections would be the Grim Reaper. 
    Correct. But not necessarily the same "she" mentioned earlier in the song. 
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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    myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2020
    Where'd you sleep? Can I find
    A deeper connection

    I know many were, lets just say, not happy with the fact that Chris was buried in LA at "Hollywood Forever Cemetery", instead of Seattle...  
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    lotsalemonlotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,734

    I thought I remember reading that he wasn't actually buried there, it's just a memorial headstone at that site in LA. Maybe I'm wrong?
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,833
    Love this song. For some reason when I first heard it I thought it sounded like Blues Run the Game by Jackson Frank (which is an amazing song) - but then I listened to Blues Run the Game right after I listened to Comes Then Goes and realized they don't sound the same at all :)
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    RhinoJamRhinoJam Raleighwood Posts: 592
    I wish they had left Ed's part just the way it was, and added full band instrumentation behind it... Jeff's grooves, simple drum beat, nice bluesy type solo/Mike work in the background, accompanying Stone Riff... I think this could have been like a Black, Gone, Come Back, etc, something in that vein, still really like the song, was hoping for more depth to it with the full band!
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    epbadgerepbadger The Bronx, NY Posts: 654
    mcgruff10 said:
    A friend of mine found this guitar tutorial for comes then goes if interested:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voRLI0IcHWc&feature=youtu.be
    awesome! thanks for that
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