so there are people here who are trying to upgrade their seats when seats become available while so many others are trying to just get into these shows? kind of a dick move in my opinion.
why? If I upgrade my seats, I would then drop my old seats to the F2F
because you are unnecessarily causing extra traffic for the original tickets when they are put up. maybe you disagree and that's fine. my opinion is my opinion.
I have two singles in different rows and want my husband and me to sit together. Of course I'm going to try to upgrade.
Honestly? I would not put this in the same category as "upgrading". SP1984 and I joked about getting separate singles, but it's just not as much fun going alone. Best of luck to you!
Thanks. I am thrilled to just be in the building and know how fortunate we are. Losing out on 5 pair I've had in my cart so far has really sucked, but it appears they are going to people here, so I'm happy for them. Not gonna give up hope.
How far apart are your tickets?
We're actually in the same section, just a few rows apart, so it's not awful. But it's not the same as sitting next to each other like we have at 46 PJ shows so far. If it happens, great! If not, we're in the building and I am grateful.
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
It already IS the industry standard. Try getting decent seats to any popular show without being part of one of the many many presales - fan clubs, credit cards, etc etc. By the time the general public onsale happens, the available tickets are scarce and usually the worst in the house. Gone are the days when you can just queue up at 10am on friday and get lucky.
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
We got enough drama on here trying to get these tix man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
We hot enough drama on here man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
Agreed gotta stay positive. Where's @Saltzy23 to breathe some more positivity into this thread!
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
It already IS the industry standard. Try getting decent seats to any popular show without being part of one of the many many presales - fan clubs, credit cards, etc etc. By the time the general public onsale happens, the available tickets are scarce and usually the worst in the house. Gone are the days when you can just queue up at 10am on friday and get lucky.
thanks for proving my point. with stub hub and scalpers i always have access and not only that I can choose the time i want to try to secure tickets and what cost i want to pay.
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
Last thing I comment on since this is so off topic.
My original point is that you think its a dick move to try and upgrade tickets. Your point is it takes away from another fan at that moment even though the person that is upgrading is going to be selling the lesser tickets on the same platform at face value. On the other hand you are ok with people going into the public sale and scalping tickets and selling them at ridiculous prices just so you can have access to them. This scalper is taking away from another fan at that moment as well but you seem to not care about that fan since the results benefit you.
We got enough drama on here trying to get these tix man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
This is the right answer.
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I didnt even notice it was a single. I will most likely keep trying for a pair and sell this later if necessary. Maybe not as hyper aggressively though. Good luck to all.
All I need is a single, please post on here when/if you do end up selling it. Congrats!
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Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
We hot enough drama on here man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
Agreed gotta stay positive. Where's @Saltzy23 to breathe some more positivity into this thread!
You guys got this. Keep at it. I'll have some free time tonight while my son is at practice, so more than willing to refresh and help out. I kind of miss it lol
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
We hot enough drama on here man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
Agreed gotta stay positive. Where's @Saltzy23 to breathe some more positivity into this thread!
You guys got this. Keep at it. I'll have some free time tonight while my son is at practice, so more than willing to refresh and help out. I kind of miss it lol
Thanks, @lmckenney24 . Nobody deserves a show more than you folks in Atlanta!
Let me get this straight. Upgrading and selling your old tickets for facevalue is a dick move but having scalpers scoop up hundreds of tickets and marking them up substantially is ok just so you can have access to them? Man what a take.
well yes upgrading lowers someone's chances of getting tickets in that moment. is this hard to understand?
and i know it's for charity and it's great but those Vitology tickets are far more expensive than any scalper cost i've ever paid.
but hey that's just my take
Again you are ok with scalpers scooping up tickets so you can have access to them at a premium price. Do you not understand that these scalpers are now lowering the chances of someone else getting tickets in that moment? What do charity tickets have to do with anything we are talking about here?
you can argue the system PJ is using is great because more so called 'real fans' are getting in the building but don't equate that with more people having access. they are limiting access to a select group of people. No one here has given me a good answer for this one...are you willing to join the fan club of every band you want to see for access to tickets if this becomes the industry standard? because if this PJ model becomes the industry standard your access to tickets is going to be severely restricted. i don't think this is even up for debate.
We hot enough drama on here man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
Agreed gotta stay positive. Where's @Saltzy23 to breathe some more positivity into this thread!
You guys got this. Keep at it. I'll have some free time tonight while my son is at practice, so more than willing to refresh and help out. I kind of miss it lol
Thanks, @lmckenney24 . Nobody deserves a show more than you folks in Atlanta!
I'm a transplant from Boston, but would be great to get a show down here!
i recall the good ole days when i was a manager at a wherehouse records and we had Bass Ticketmaster outlet- there was no internet. and back then scalpers waited in line with everyone else. it was A2... Enter, A2...enter, A2 Enter.... not F5 F5 F5.... but was the same be quick on the check out... I got so many great seats, i would work the ticket register and just search for ticket drops... even got front row day of show (RUSH) , 10th Row for Tom Petty ( Day before) ... this is a "refreshing" change from years of Bots and scalpers winning... I love it!
We got enough drama on here trying to get these tix man....I dont have my tix for balt yet, but it is what it is. I'm gonna keep trying, not gonna cry about it
I'm def crying about it til I get there 😂😂😂 but I am hopeful for us all
i recall the good ole days when i was a manager at a wherehouse records and we had Bass Ticketmaster outlet- there was no internet. and back then scalpers waited in line with everyone else. it was A2... Enter, A2...enter, A2 Enter.... not F5 F5 F5.... but was the same be quick on the check out... I got so many great seats, i would work the ticket register and just search for ticket drops... even got front row day of show (RUSH) , 10th Row for Tom Petty ( Day before) ... this is a "refreshing" change from years of Bots and scalpers winning... I love it!
My favourite era was the later 90s when TM had it systems networked, but the internet was still limited. IE they didn't do online sales yet. Because TM outlets were networked you didn't have to call your local one for local tickets, you could call anyone for local tickets. For Vancouver shows we'd call the one in Brandon Manitoba. They still went on sale at the same time, but there was no queue. We'd call a minute or two early ask a few stupid questions then ask for tickets. We got so many good tickets that way.
The early days of the internet were good too... Those first 5ish years of online sales. So many people hadn't figured it out yet. They'd still be standing in line, while you'd get your ticket in 30 seconds. Once more people figured it out, and then later on the bots.. it kind of went to crap.
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My original point is that you think its a dick move to try and upgrade tickets. Your point is it takes away from another fan at that moment even though the person that is upgrading is going to be selling the lesser tickets on the same platform at face value. On the other hand you are ok with people going into the public sale and scalping tickets and selling them at ridiculous prices just so you can have access to them. This scalper is taking away from another fan at that moment as well but you seem to not care about that fan since the results benefit you.
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The early days of the internet were good too... Those first 5ish years of online sales. So many people hadn't figured it out yet. They'd still be standing in line, while you'd get your ticket in 30 seconds. Once more people figured it out, and then later on the bots.. it kind of went to crap.