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nicknyr15

Bentleyspop said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

I bought some last week.  Was the first show I had bought since PJ STL

Still holding my PJ Baltimore and MSG tickets. I’ll never let those go!! I cannot wait. 

Halifax2TheMax

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

I saw them in 2019 there and it was an incredible venue and a fantastic show. I said to myself I hope they play here every summer hahah!! Let me know if make it this year. 

Meltdown99

PJNB said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJNB said:

Meltdown99 said:

Montreal Canadians will be allowing fans starting May 28th…2500 fans will be in attendance…

Pretty surprised and happy to see this happen. Only like 8% attendance but its a start. Also I read an article a couple of hours before that were Canada would have zero fans all playoffs. Goes to show at this point you have to take the news with a grain of salt since things flip so fast. 

That’s game 6.  Doubt Montreal gets this series to 6 games.  Lol.

Ya I am betting they win in 5!  

I agree …

HughFreakingDillon

feels like Manitoba is moving backwards while everyone else is moving closer to freedom. more health orders today for May Long. they know these weekends are obviously big gathering weekends, and now with us having to send 3 ICU patients 600 km's to Thunder Bay because we're at capacity, shit's about to hit the fan. 

protests scheduled for the Forks. get the fucking cops out there and arrest every last fucking one of them. they aren't getting the message. 

oftenreading

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

I saw them in 2019 there and it was an incredible venue and a fantastic show. I said to myself I hope they play here every summer hahah!! Let me know if make it this year. 

I was also at that 2019 show - great day, great evening, great show.... crappy transit back . I would go again but would have a better plan. 

nicknyr15

oftenreading said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

I saw them in 2019 there and it was an incredible venue and a fantastic show. I said to myself I hope they play here every summer hahah!! Let me know if make it this year. 

I was also at that 2019 show - great day, great evening, great show.... crappy transit back . I would go again but would have a better plan. 

I drove in a little early. Found street parking about 4 blocks away. It’s 45 min away from so no big deal. 

oftenreading

nicknyr15 said:

oftenreading said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

I saw them in 2019 there and it was an incredible venue and a fantastic show. I said to myself I hope they play here every summer hahah!! Let me know if make it this year. 

I was also at that 2019 show - great day, great evening, great show.... crappy transit back . I would go again but would have a better plan. 

I drove in a little early. Found street parking about 4 blocks away. It’s 45 min away from so no big deal. 

For those coming from the opposite coast across a border, driving in is more of a challenge. I think I'd have to leave more than a little early  

Though maybe the better plan next time is - rent a car. 

nicknyr15

oftenreading said:

nicknyr15 said:

oftenreading said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Purchase concert tickets for the first time in over a year this morning. So excited. 

Who ya seeing and which venue?

My morning jacket at Forest Hills. Fantastic venue. 

I saw them there in 2018 or 2019. My first time there and yes, awesome venue with reasonable prices for food and drink. Getting out and on the subway or Uber was a bit of a cluster but I'd go back. Knowing the history of the place is cool too. We need more venues like Forest Hills. Or I need to find and go to them.

I saw them in 2019 there and it was an incredible venue and a fantastic show. I said to myself I hope they play here every summer hahah!! Let me know if make it this year. 

I was also at that 2019 show - great day, great evening, great show.... crappy transit back . I would go again but would have a better plan. 

I drove in a little early. Found street parking about 4 blocks away. It’s 45 min away from so no big deal. 

For those coming from the opposite coast across a border, driving in is more of a challenge. I think I'd have to leave more than a little early  

Though maybe the better plan next time is - rent a car. 

Just a little earlier.... haha. 

Meltdown99

Ontario is fully opening in August sometime…we will see.  

Malroth

Well,  I'm fully vaccinated, and science tells me it's ok to not wear a mask anymore.

cincybearcat

Malroth said:

Well,  I'm fully vaccinated, and science tells me it's ok to not wear a mask anymore.

Sure thing in your private settings. Science also tells us that we don’t have enough people vaccinated to remove mask mandates for public space indoors. And if we do there is a significant risk of the virus and mutations continuing and potentially putting even vaccinated people at risk.

So yup you are good. But idiots that aren’t vaccinated and stop wearing masks could change that for you.

oftenreading

Currently 75% of adults in BC have either had their first dose or are registered for vaccination, which seems amazing to me. Since it doesn’t seem like registrations will suddenly fall off a cliff, it looks like we’ll get to a higher rate than that. 

And yet, this article says we need to get to 85% of adults, since we can’t (yet) vaccinate under 12s, to better protect against variants. It seems a big stretch to think we’ll get to 85%. 

Just when you start to feel optimistic the goal
posts move again. 

https://apple.news/A8OI-K1HuQlSqaypRjDFpXQ

Spunkie

I disagree that the goal posts we're moved. We knew way back what percent of population vaccinated is required for community immunity, and we even discussed here how we would have to factor children into those rates.

Edit: wasn't the 75% a number Tam proposed before we could loosen restrictions, not achieve community immunity?

oftenreading

tish said:

I disagree that the goal posts we're moved. We knew way back what percent of population vaccinated is required for community immunity, and we even discussed here how we would have to factor children into those rates.

Edit: wasn't the 75% a number Tam proposed before we could loosen restrictions, not achieve community immunity?

I’m not talking about 75% as a goal number - it’s the number of people vaccinated or registered from the article. I think it’s a great milestone and yet the fact that it’s probably still not enough is discouraging. 

The goal posts comment was not meant to refer to a percentage of people vaccinated, just more of a general sense that for all the steps forward with this disease there are always steps back. The situation is always changing and we have to respond. 

Spunkie

Thanks for explaining. Sending you some good vibes to overcome the discouraging aspects! 

mickeyrat

interesting read....

Boston Coronavirus pandemic Pandemics Smallpox

Old records shed new light on smallpox outbreaks in 1700s

By WILLIAM J. KOLE

28 mins ago

BOSTON (AP) — A highly contagious disease originating far from America's shores triggers deadly outbreaks that spread rapidly, infecting the masses. Shots are available, but a divided public agonizes over getting jabbed.

Sound familiar?

Newly digitized records — including a minister's diary scanned and posted online by Boston's Congregational Library and Archives — are shedding fresh light on devastating outbreaks of smallpox that hit the city in the 1700s.

And three centuries later, the parallels with the coronavirus pandemic are uncanny.

“How little we've changed,” said CLA archivist Zachary Bodnar, who led the digitization effort, working closely with the New England Historic Genealogical Society.

“The fact that we’re finding these similarities in the records of our past is a very interesting parallel,” Bodnar said in an interview. “Sometimes the more we learn, the more we’re still the same, I guess.”

Smallpox was eradicated, but not before it sickened and killed millions worldwide. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say the last natural outbreak of smallpox in the United States occurred in 1949. In 1980, the World Health Organization's decision-making arm declared it eradicated, and no cases of naturally occurring smallpox have been reported since.

But in April 1721, after an English ship, the HMS Seahorse, brought it to Boston, it was a clear and present danger. By winter of 1722, it would infect more than half of the city's population of 11,000 and kill 850.

Much earlier outbreaks, also imported from Europe, killed Native Americans indiscriminately in the 1600s. Now, digitized church records are helping to round out the picture of how the colonists coped when it was their turn to endure pestilence.

The world's first proper vaccination didn’t occur until the end of that century, when an English country doctor named Edward Jenner inoculated an 8-year-old boy against smallpox in 1796.

Before then, doctors used inoculation, or variolation as it was often called, introducing a trace amount of the smallpox virus into the skin. The procedure, or variations of it, had been practiced since ancient times in Asia. Jenner's pioneering of vaccination, using instead a less lethal strain of the virus that infected cows, was a huge scientific advance.

Yet just as with COVID-19 vaccines in 2021, some took a skeptical view of smallpox inoculations in the 18th century, digitized documents show. To be sure, there was ample reason to worry: Early smallpox treatments, while effective in many who were inoculated, sickened or even killed others.

The Rev. Cotton Mather, one of the era's most influential ministers, had actively promoted inoculation. In a sign of how resistant some colonists were to the new technology, someone tossed an explosive device through his window in November 1721.

Fortunately, it didn't explode, but researchers at Harvard say this menacing message was attached: “Cotton Mather, you dog, damn you! I’ll inoculate you with this; with a pox to you.’’

Among the recently digitized Congregational Church records are handwritten diary entries scrawled by the Rev. Ebenezer Storer, a pastor in Cambridge, Massachusetts. On March 11, 1764, as smallpox once again raged through Boston, Storer penned a prayer in his journal after arranging to have his own children inoculated.

The deeply devout Storer, his diary shows, had faith in science.

“Blessed be thy name for any discoveries that have been made to soften the severity of the distemper. Grant thy blessing on the means used,” he wrote.

Three weeks later, Storer gave thanks to God “for his great mercy to me in recovering my dear children and the others in my family from the smallpox.”

For Bodnar, the archivist, it's a testament to the insights church records can contain.

“They're fascinating,” he said. “They're essentially town records — they not only tell the story of the daily accounting of the church, but also the story of what people were doing at that time and what was going on.”

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Follow AP New England editor Bill Kole on Twitter at http://twitter.com/billkole.

HughFreakingDillon

we're clearly not evolving as a collective. we just have shinier toys than our predecessors. 

Spunkie

^ yup. Happy long weekend, with your household only, hughbaby.

Weston1283

Many states have been open fully without masks for weeks now, and 7 day averages for both cases and deaths nationwide in the states is quickly approaching a 14 month low

I still urge everyone to get vaccinated, but this thing is over

I just came back from a conference in Vegas and wow, If they don’t have a spike in 2-3 weeks, there’s just no room for me to be convinced that it is not over.  It was a maskless, crowded free for all in the entire city.

I also was driving to Cape cod after I landed today, and drove by two pop up tents in parking lots, no one in lines, for walk in covid vaccinations.

There’s nothing else to be done in the states except for hopefully sending out our surplus of vaccines to the rest of the world and hopefully quickly