The coronavirus

Weston1283

https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1379186625914105856?s=21

mfc2006

2nd Moderna shot is set for next week!

23scidoo

Lockdown..but not for everyone..those are rule you..

https://twitter.com/i/status/1378089447271596038

Weston1283

F Me In The Brain

That is so ridiculous.  
Way to be, Rangers!

JeBurkhardt

On NPR yesterday, they said that Illinois quietly made changes to their gathering guidelines that allow for vaccinated people to not count against occupancy numbers at events and businesses.

"In an update to current Phase 4 mitigations, individuals with proof of full vaccination — defined as 14 days after receiving a final vaccine dose — or a negative COVID-19 test (PCR) 1-3 days prior to an event do not count against capacity limits."

Hopefully this will motivate people who are on the fence to get vaccinated.

Weston1283

Ohio no longer has capacity restrictions on outdoor events

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dispatch.com/amp/7088280002

dignin

Weston1283 said:

Weston1283

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

F Me In The Brain

Weston1283 said:

Ohio no longer has capacity restrictions on outdoor events

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dispatch.com/amp/7088280002

Depends on the event facility -- spacing is still required so they won't be filling up Great American Ballpark like they are the Rangers. 

Not sure how they will police it but if spacing is required that puts a natural limit on capacity for any outdoor space which was previously given a capacity limit.  (Like a concert venue or ballpark?)

Interesting if they leave it to be self governed, since we all know that means any suggestions/rules are very likely to be thrown to the wayside.

Too soon, imo - I like where things are leading us but we have been working at this for so long, not sure why we cannot give it more time until everyone has access to be fully vaccinated. 

dignin

Weston1283 said:

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

You show me a quote by any epidemiology expert that thinks this was okay. That this was prudent or necessary.

Let er rip and see how it goes is completely irresponsible and fuckin stupid.

Merkin Baller

Weston1283 said:

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

I get what you're saying, but OTOH, would it not have been more prudent to start the season off at 50- 60% capacity and see what happens for the first 4 or 5 weeks? 

There's no reason you can't expand if things go well.

If things DON'T go well however, they just unnecessarily gambled with peoples' lives, and for what? 

dignin

Texas has the "hold my beer approach".

Super smart.

F Me In The Brain

Merkin Baller said:

Weston1283 said:

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

I get what you're saying, but OTOH, would it not have been more prudent to start the season off at 50- 60% capacity and see what happens for the first 4 or 5 weeks? 

There's no reason you can't expand if things go well.

If things DON'T go well however, they just unnecessarily gambled with peoples' lives, and for what? 

OnWis97

I  have to admit, I'm getting jealous seeing so many people getting their shot. I'm in Minnesota, which is doing pretty well, but I am probably still several months off.  I'm told I need to be vigilant in seeking it out. That's just not me. And I'm better at living this way than most people (judging by every trip I take to Target).

But as we get vaccinated, people are letting up.  And I really wish they would not until everyone has had the opportunity.

I'm being a bit petty (I figured I'd be hopeful when people started getting vaccinated; instead I'm just frustrated knowing that I'm not close) but I'm also rightly frustrated that as I wait, people are letting up.

Merkin Baller

F Me In The Brain said:

Merkin Baller said:

Weston1283 said:

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

I get what you're saying, but OTOH, would it not have been more prudent to start the season off at 50- 60% capacity and see what happens for the first 4 or 5 weeks? 

There's no reason you can't expand if things go well.

If things DON'T go well however, they just unnecessarily gambled with peoples' lives, and for what? 

That & American arrogance. 

dignin

Novel HIV vaccine approach shows promise in “landmark” first-in-human trial

The vaccine was able to target the desired immune cells and could become the first stage of a multi-step vaccine strategy to combat HIV and various other viral diseases.

According to the organisations, the vaccine successfully stimulated the production of the rare immune cells needed to generate antibodies against HIV in 97 percent of participants.

As a next step, the collaborators are partnering with the biotechnology company Moderna to develop and test an mRNA-based vaccine that harnesses the approach to produce the same beneficial immune cells. According to the team, using mRNA technology could significantly accelerate the pace of HIV vaccine development, as it did with vaccines for COVID-19.

https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/141892/novel-hiv-vaccine-approach-shows-promise-in-landmark-first-in-human-trial/

Weston1283

Merkin Baller said:

Weston1283 said:

dignin said:

Weston1283 said:

I mean, what if it is fine?  This is the most traceable large event we have had since last march

what if 2-3 weeks from now, the state of Texas does not have a spike, new cases can’t be traced back to the ballgame

Then... wouldn’t it be fine?

It could also be horrible, sure, but let’s wait and see what happens in a few weeks before just stating that all of these people are going to spread coronavirus to the rest of the world 

I get what you're saying, but OTOH, would it not have been more prudent to start the season off at 50- 60% capacity and see what happens for the first 4 or 5 weeks? 

There's no reason you can't expand if things go well.

If things DON'T go well however, they just unnecessarily gambled with peoples' lives, and for what? 

I’m not saying that wouldn’t have been a better approach.  I guess what I meant to say is, since they decided to take the “hold my beer” approach, there’s nothing we could have done stop them, so let’s use it as a data point

Since the deed is done, let’s sit back with an open mind and see what actually does happen 2-3 weeks from now with the numbers and the tracing.

mrussel1

OnWis97 said:

I  have to admit, I'm getting jealous seeing so many people getting their shot. I'm in Minnesota, which is doing pretty well, but I am probably still several months off.  I'm told I need to be vigilant in seeking it out. That's just not me. And I'm better at living this way than most people (judging by every trip I take to Target).

But as we get vaccinated, people are letting up.  And I really wish they would not until everyone has had the opportunity.

I'm being a bit petty (I figured I'd be hopeful when people started getting vaccinated; instead I'm just frustrated knowing that I'm not close) but I'm also rightly frustrated that as I wait, people are letting up.

Biden admin announced today that there will be enough vaccines for everyone by mid April.  After that, it's just a logistics issue on scheduling, rather than availability.  Several months off seems really terrible, if true, and would be an indictment of the state.  Here in VA, everyone will be eligible by 4/18 and several areas are already there. Everyone I've talked to that has signed up, has been invited to schedule.  

OnWis97

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

I  have to admit, I'm getting jealous seeing so many people getting their shot. I'm in Minnesota, which is doing pretty well, but I am probably still several months off.  I'm told I need to be vigilant in seeking it out. That's just not me. And I'm better at living this way than most people (judging by every trip I take to Target).

But as we get vaccinated, people are letting up.  And I really wish they would not until everyone has had the opportunity.

I'm being a bit petty (I figured I'd be hopeful when people started getting vaccinated; instead I'm just frustrated knowing that I'm not close) but I'm also rightly frustrated that as I wait, people are letting up.

Biden admin announced today that there will be enough vaccines for everyone by mid April.  After that, it's just a logistics issue on scheduling, rather than availability.  Several months off seems really terrible, if true, and would be an indictment of the state.  Here in VA, everyone will be eligible by 4/18 and several areas are already there. Everyone I've talked to that has signed up, has been invited to schedule.  

My general pessimism and frustration is showing through. I started looking for appointments in earnest for the first time last night and right now, there's certainly nothing, particularly for "general public." (the designation in Minnesota for adults with no age/condition priority. Amazingly, I am one of only 300,000 that fit that in a state of 5.5 million people).

I would guess I'll do better than "several months" and that sometime in May, appointments will start opening up. And hey, I'm in my 40s. four-to-six weeks flies by, now!