The coronavirus

PJNB

mickeyrat said:

mcgruff10 said:

wow!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

"If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.

But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.

really shouldnt be a surprise....

That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?

dignin

Nailed it.

https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1376029708568178688

mickeyrat

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

mcgruff10 said:

wow!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

"If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.

But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.

really shouldnt be a surprise....

That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?

that those are his beliefs..

mcgruff10

mickeyrat said:

PJNB said:

mickeyrat said:

mcgruff10 said:

wow!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cdc-director-surprises-cnns-151700805.html

Former CDC director surprises CNN's Sanjay Gupta by revealing he believes COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab

CNN's Sanjay Gupta appeared taken aback in a new interview as former CDC Director Robert Redfield shared his "opinion" on the origins of COVID-19.

Gupta spoke with Redfield as part of a new CNN documentary about the COVID-19 pandemic, and the former CDC chief revealed he thinks it's likely the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab and was possibly already being transmitted in September 2019.

"If I was to guess, this virus started transmitting somewhere in September, October in Wuhan," Redfield said. "That's my own view. It's only an opinion. I'm allowed to have opinions now."

Redfield continued that he thinks the "most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," though he said he's not "implying any intentionality" and reiterated "it's my opinion." The World Health Organization's Dr. Peter Ben Embarek said last month it's "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in Wuhan and that instead, "our initial findings suggest that the introduction through an intermediary host species is the most likely pathway," per NBC News.

But Redfield told CNN, "I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human, and at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission." He noted, though, that "other people don't believe" this Wuhan lab theory, and "science will eventually figure it out."

Gupta commented on the "remarkable" nature of this conversation, noting that these are "significant" statements to be made by an official who served as the CDC's director throughout most of the COVID-19 pandemic. Indeed, Gupta said on CNN while setting up the clip, "This was extraordinary." Watch the exchange below.

really shouldnt be a surprise....

That he made these comments or that it in fact came from a lab?

that those are his beliefs..

I could definitely get behind his beliefs on this, it makes a lot of sense.  

mrussel1

Lerxst1992 said:

dankind said:

dignin said:

23scidoo said:

Hobbes said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

The companies don't care brother  thats well known

But my friend all i read here is this..''trust the science!!''
people like to sleep and dream..

The breadth of science is not limited simply to pharmaceutical companies.

lastexitlondon said:

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

The companies don't care brother  thats well known

But my friend all i read here is this..''trust the science!!''
people like to sleep and dream..

Yes definitely trust science. It's the best we have. Pharma is money . Different  things 

Disagree..at this point the whole planet dance and they play the music..

Your ignorance is astounding.

How can anyone even begin to have a rational conversation with someone who believes that a pharmaceutical company equals science.

I just hope nobody here takes your nonsense seriously.

How many Big Pharma CEOs actually have advanced degrees in biochemistry or a related field?

Is it more than zero?

I'll wait....

A bit of a trick question because the corporate ladder is rigged for lawyers and MBAs, even for Big Pharma, but we could assume a medical doctor has a ton of education in biochemistry

” Dr. Caforio has served as CEO of Bristol Myers Squibb since May 2015 and became chairman of the board of directors in May 2017. Dr. Caforio received his medical degree from the University of Rome and joined Bristol Myers Squibb in Italy in 2000. “

"Rigged"? As in,  people who have degrees focused on running a business tend to get more opportunities to run a business? 

That's not rigged, that's playing the percentages. 

Spiritual_Chaos

So, what percentage of people going into ICU comes out of it again?

lastexitlondon

Depends. If ventilation then not great odds

nicknyr15

New York and New Jersey still leading the pack. 

mcgruff10

nicknyr15 said:

New York and New Jersey still leading the pack. 

We rule.  

Weston1283

Ohio opened up vaccines to everyone starting tomorrow.  4 of my younger siblings (all healthy and in their 20s) were able to sign up and are getting Pfizer dose 1 on Tuesday this week.  Apparently sign up was easy and there were “a lot” of open appointment slots for the mass site at Cleveland State Univ

F Me In The Brain

Hope that starts happening everywhere!

Bentleyspop

My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

Must be the microchip 

mrussel1

Bentleyspop said:

My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

Must be the microchip 

I'm totally skipping the second one now.  My first was Pfizer. 

Seriously though,  is she okay? Does she react to the flu shot?

dignin

Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%

The revised report issued by Mexico's health ministry (in Spanish) showed that by the end of the sixth week of 2021 there had been 294,287 deaths "associated with Covid-19" - up from the 182,301 confirmed figure given previously.

Since mid-February more than 26,772 Covid-19-related deaths have been reported across Mexico which would take the total to more than 321,000.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56558059

Spunkie

Bentleyspop said:

My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

Must be the microchip 

What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!

oftenreading

tish said:

Bentleyspop said:

My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

Must be the microchip 

What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!

And may improve wifi service as well

Zod

tish said:

Bentleyspop said:

My S/O got her 2nd Pfizer yesterday.  Sick as a dog today.

Must be the microchip 

What's everyone got against microchips? Besides a tiny little scar and rice size bump it's not like they cause blood clots!

moderately biblical.  The mark of the beast

Spiritual_Chaos

Feeling a bit runny noise-wise and woke up with some slight hurt in my throat.

Went to get a selftest but they were out of them for today... so will have to go back tomorrow. Worried that the result won't be back before easter... friday is a day off here.

23scidoo

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

23scidoo

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Feeling a bit runny noise-wise and woke up with some slight hurt in my throat.

Went to get a selftest but they were out of them for today... so will have to go back tomorrow. Worried that the result won't be back before easter... friday is a day off here.

Hope you are feeling better tomorrow..