The coronavirus

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Line for test or vaccine?

Meltdown99

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJNB said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends

I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 

That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...

I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 

Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...

mrussel1

Meltdown99 said:

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJNB said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends

I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 

That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...

I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 

Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...

As Often Reading pointed out, that's not correct.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-we-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccines-experts-say-not-yet

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Line for test or vaccine?

Line to pick up a take-it-yourself test. 

Hoping for a negative result in 48h.

dignin

Zod said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends

This is really discouraging. BC was just in the process of rolling out vaccinations for teachers and front line workers with the AZ vaccine and now this. We (the province) are also increasing our restrictions as of today due to an increase in cases. Every time it seems like there is an end in sight, something blows up again. 

I don't personally think that a risk of about 1 in 1,000,000 is high enough to suspend the vaccinations but it's looking more and more like we're swimming against the tide of public opinion on this vaccine. I wonder if the wealthier countries are going to decide to just cut this one out. That might be to the gain of the developing nations, so that would be something at least. 

With the science (or scientific interpretation) constantly changing. I'm not long sure if AZ is a problem?  At first it sounded like they couldn't differentiate between whether the virus cause the clots, or if that many random people in any given population size would have them anyways.   I guess the science changed?

With cases spiking up here in BC, what's the costs of not using them?  I think the US was sending Canada something like 1.5m doses.  Moderna delayed some shipments again.  Without other vaccines it's going to take a lot longer to vaccinate our population.. shrug.

If someone offered me the AZ vaccine I'd take it.

I'm with you. If they offered it I would take it.

I think we're making a big mistake up here in Canada. This back and forth on AZ is going to cost people their lives.

lastexitlondon

dignin said:

Zod said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends

This is really discouraging. BC was just in the process of rolling out vaccinations for teachers and front line workers with the AZ vaccine and now this. We (the province) are also increasing our restrictions as of today due to an increase in cases. Every time it seems like there is an end in sight, something blows up again. 

I don't personally think that a risk of about 1 in 1,000,000 is high enough to suspend the vaccinations but it's looking more and more like we're swimming against the tide of public opinion on this vaccine. I wonder if the wealthier countries are going to decide to just cut this one out. That might be to the gain of the developing nations, so that would be something at least. 

With the science (or scientific interpretation) constantly changing. I'm not long sure if AZ is a problem?  At first it sounded like they couldn't differentiate between whether the virus cause the clots, or if that many random people in any given population size would have them anyways.   I guess the science changed?

With cases spiking up here in BC, what's the costs of not using them?  I think the US was sending Canada something like 1.5m doses.  Moderna delayed some shipments again.  Without other vaccines it's going to take a lot longer to vaccinate our population.. shrug.

If someone offered me the AZ vaccine I'd take it.

I'm with you. If they offered it I would take it.

I think we're making a big mistake up here in Canada. This back and forth on AZ is going to cost people their lives.

This is true there  is no more risk than a paracetamol and this is costing lives and harming 1000s.  No confidence is so sad. This is the non profit vaccine  remember  that

Spunkie

Well if 4 in 100,000 (middle aged women, mostly) get Vaccine-Induced Prothrombotic Immune Thrombocytopenia (VIPIT), with 40% fatality, how does this compare with Covid-19 complications? 

We have had 11 (7 this year) deaths in BC in that age group. Total COVID-19 in BC almost 40,000. Percent of those in that age group X (as below).

Anyone wonder why this info isn't easy for the average Tishy to understand, and-or can solve this math?



Mar 6, 2020 data

lastexitlondon

So 2 people die every 100,000.
20 in a million. Are these  facts?

lastexitlondon

We have 30 million doses that  would mean 600 dead? My maths  might be shit

Meltdown99

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJNB said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends

I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 

That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...

I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 

Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...

As Often Reading pointed out, that's not correct.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-we-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccines-experts-say-not-yet

That makes sense....

mrussel1

lastexitlondon said:

So 2 people die every 100,000.
20 in a million. Are these  facts?

Do you mean from Covid or from the clots?  I read that the clots are 4 in 100,000 and 40% die.  

So for 30 million doses, I come up with 480 deaths.  

lastexitlondon

Clots yeah. 
I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 

lastexitlondon

I know one thing  it confuses the fuck out of me 

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

lastexitlondon said:

So 2 people die every 100,000.
20 in a million. Are these  facts?

Do you mean from Covid or from the clots?  I read that the clots are 4 in 100,000 and 40% die.  

So for 30 million doses, I come up with 480 deaths.  

Saw someone comparing that, to clots from birth control pills, which is allowed to be sold.

cutz

This from the Head Coach of Baylor?

https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1376747763820593156

F Me In The Brain

cutz said:

This from the Head Coach of Baylor?

https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1376747763820593156

Texas.
Waco
Religious

Think that covers it!

mrussel1

lastexitlondon said:

Clots yeah. 
I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 

I'm just doing the math on 30 million doses.  Is that the amount of doses of AZ that has been administered?

oftenreading

mrussel1 said:

lastexitlondon said:

Clots yeah. 
I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 

I'm just doing the math on 30 million doses.  Is that the amount of doses of AZ that has been administered?

Busy busy day for me so I haven’t been able to read into this further. The last time I read any data on this was two days ago though it seems like weeks now. At that point I believe there were 30 identified cases. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Did a second self-test just now, because I had in my stressful easter-fever booked one to be delived to my door but then I couldn't cancel it when I instead could pick one up at my local clinic...

... weird that the instructions were a bit different for the two tests. One you were to swab far inside one of your nostrils (scary), the other you had to swab both of them.

DID YOU SWAB ONE OR TWO NOSTRILS JAMILY?

lastexitlondon

Throat then nose. Both sides of both I believe