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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Here’s an article on a superspreader event, a curling bonspiel, at the beginning of the pandemic https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/bonspiel-superspreader-edmonton-covid-1.5907514



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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Here’s info on another superspreader event, a dental conference, in early March 

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/super-spreading-events-covid-19-edmonton-vancouver-1.5518697
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  • I'm not saying to bury your head in the sand. 

    Attacking Biden's memorial because they didn't do it soon enough is to me an example of being angry just to be angry.  It is okay to be angry about things but just pick the right things to be angry about.  Attacking Biden for a memorial just discounts all of your other arguments in my opinion. 

    Can you please point out where I attacked Biden in post?

    Here is some interesting data for everyone.  North Dakota ended their mask mandate on January 18th.  It would make sense that ND is a dumpster fire by now, right?  Anyone care to explain this image?

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    What’s the population density of Nor Dak, per square mile? 503,000 fake dead Americans, dead from other things. You strike me as one of those people who won’t believe it until you’re actually touched by it but then still call it a conspiracy. Almost a year on.

    Was POOTWH lying time Bob Woodward or is he in on the mind control?
    My guy, look deeper at the charts.  They all follow the same line.  So North Dakota with no mask mandate is doing the same as all 50 states, including the ones with lockdown measures and heavy mask mandates.

    I have no idea what that last question means...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    For those interested in some data on mask efficacy, including double masking and different techniques to make masks fit better and thus provide better protection, here's a link to some very recent research from the CDC.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7007e1.htm

    Here's a snippet of the info:

    Results from the first experiment demonstrated that the unknotted medical procedure mask alone blocked start highlight56.1%end highlight of the particles from a simulated cough (standard deviation [SD] = start highlight5.8end highlight), and the cloth mask alone blocked start highlight51.4%end highlight (SD = start highlight7.1end highlight). The combination of the cloth mask covering the medical procedure mask (double mask) blocked start highlight85.4%end highlight of the cough particles (SD = start highlight2.4end highlight), start highlightand the knotted and tucked medical procedure mask blocked 77.0% (SD = 3.1)end highlight.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
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  • For those interested in some data on mask efficacy, including double masking and different techniques to make masks fit better and thus provide better protection, here's a link to some very recent research from the CDC.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7007e1.htm

    Here's a snippet of the info:

    Results from the first experiment demonstrated that the unknotted medical procedure mask alone blocked start highlight56.1%end highlight of the particles from a simulated cough (standard deviation [SD] = start highlight5.8end highlight), and the cloth mask alone blocked start highlight51.4%end highlight (SD = start highlight7.1end highlight). The combination of the cloth mask covering the medical procedure mask (double mask) blocked start highlight85.4%end highlight of the cough particles (SD = start highlight2.4end highlight), start highlightand the knotted and tucked medical procedure mask blocked 77.0% (SD = 3.1)end highlight.

    OK, so we are going to use a study done on mannequins (literal dummies BTW) in a controlled environment (lab) as reason to double mask?  You realize most people cannot even wash their hands appropriately, much less put on, wear, and dispose of it correctly, right?  The typical person who wears a mask throughout the day, of any type, is subject to touching, removing, no healthcare setting fit-testing, repeated use of same medical mask meant for less than hour usage, creating moisture trap over time therefore reducing whatever efficacy it had.  The question is not whether or not this "ideal scenario" reduces risk, but whether or not said hypothetically reduced risk is LESS than the increased risk due to improper use, repeated usage, moisture, no professional training, etc. 
  • So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
  • So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    And here’s your conspiracy, folks. Finally. Thank you.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    And here’s your conspiracy, folks. Finally. Thank you.
    “When people show you what they are, believe them”. 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,014
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/gov-baker-to-provide-update-on-reopening-of-mass/2312563/%3famp

    Large venues in Massachusetts (Fenway, Gillette, etc) opening at reduced capacity on March 22
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  • So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    lol 
  • So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    And here’s your conspiracy, folks. Finally. Thank you.
    “When people show you what they are, believe them”. 
    I guess I missed it, what exactly does that make me?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    so trump messed up the covid response to get himself out of office?
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    so trump messed up the covid response to get himself out of office?
    He must be part of the Deep State without even knowing it!
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,014
    And another one today!!!


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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    So the world initiated a global pandemic that has killed 2 million people and sickened many more, just to get DJT out of office? Would be a laughable theory, if not for the very real deaths. 
    I think the American response to the virus is for that sole reason, yes.  Then, once they realized what a scared public would do, it turned into much more.
    so trump messed up the covid response to get himself out of office?
    He must be part of the Deep State without even knowing it!
    It’s THAT deep. 
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  • Trump certainly made his mistakes during this whole thing and no, I obviously did not think he sabotaged himself.

    My opinion, DJT should not have done anything, which goes back to my question earlier.  If we were not brow beaten into being told how scary this thing was, would we even knew it existed?  I don't think so.  Two weeks to flatten the curve was the dumbest thing DJT did, but he followed the advice he was given by.....  Deborah Birx, remember her, the one who demanded nobody spend holidays with their family only to meet at the lake house with her kids from different households, and Lead Epidemiologist Anthony Fauci, who has been so wrong on so many aspects of this thing I cannot even count.  I think the outcome would be similar to a bad flu season, remember when those happened, cause I do.

    The national media, which has a clear liberal bias, has constantly told us how scary this thing is.  So scary that we ran out of kleenexes and cough syrup as someone pointed out earlier.  Why do you think they want us so fearful?  The same national media that orange man said was fake news.

    Look, I get that this is a largely Democratic board of a largely democratic band, but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you do not think this whole thing has been about the (political) science.  I'm not even going to go into blue states vs red states, etc., I have made enough of those posts.  Are any of you constant doomsdayers willing to admit there is probably a little bit of truth into what I am saying?  Have any of the posts I have made cause you to think about something differently?  Cause if it hasn't, your politics are showing. 

    Disclaimer - So it's known, didn't vote for Trump in 2016, voted for that orange bastard in 2020.
  • All I really needed to know. Thank you.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    edited February 2021
    Just got my first pfizer shot this afternoon.  
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,810
    Things that make you go hmmmm....



    Biggest lie we have been told the past year?  What's your vote?  Feel free to add your own...
    1.  Super spreaders
    2.  New variants, even scarier than the original
    3.  Masks work
    4.  Two weeks to flatten the curve
    5.  Once the vaccines are here, life can go back to normal
    6.  Masks actually do not work as good as we thought, so wear two masks because "common sense"
    7.  Dying "with" Covid vs Dying "from" covid
    8.  Covid relief bills actually provide relief to the ones who need it (This is true for Trumps bills and this new one which shows 9% of the 2 trillion goes to the people)


    Probably your posts. Especially those saying masks don’t work. 

    It’s the worst year in a long time for manufacturers of tissues, cold medicine. Just a coincidence huh? Please stop the nonsense.
    So my posts are the biggest lies?  Gotcha.

    Explain the last part to me?  Are you saying they didn't sell a lot and it was hard on their bottom line OR that they did sell a lot and it was hard to keep up with demand?  I think you are referring to the latter and I do not think this means what you think it means.  The pandemic so scary that.....  I couldn't blow my nose in a kleenex and I couldn't find any cough medicine?  Sounds rough.
    The former. Lots of other items way up. Tissues, cold medicine etc way down. No one needing it, cause you know, masks work.
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