The coronavirus

Merkin Baller

 But I've always been impressed with the way Rush, Hannity, Tucker, etc. are able to avoid both the "celebrity" and "media" tags. 

They're also some of the most outspoken Hollywood critics ironically enough. 

HughFreakingDillon

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

There are people who follow celeb news as opposed to news news.  They know who's married to who, who's getting divorced, and who was spotted smoking outside of a restaurant.  Those people might be able to be swayed by celebrity promotion. I just wonder whether there could be a backfire effect because "don't let Hollyweird tell you what to do."

Generally, though, I think I like the idea of known people promoting. Hopefully some country musicians and athletes (or just known conservatives) would also participate.

I feel like this type of person is going to take any reason they can get to find fault with the process / not get the vaccine. 


While on the subject, has any celebrity worship in America reached the crescendo that the Trump worship has reached? 

It's weird how his getting elected president never finds it's way into the whole 'celebrity = bad' argument. (this isn't directed at you, @OnWis97, it's just a general observation) 

(EDIT: It's not my intention to derail the thread, but it feels like much of the resentment towards Hollywood & celebrity comes from the right, and the people who have supported / embraced Trump... it's a significant contradiction IMO)

because they believe he's only famous for being a good businessman. they view him as sort of the anti-celebrity. they think his tough act is legit. he's a fucking baby in reality. 

republicans who are bothered by celebrities being overly liberal are hypocrites anyway. they're just whining because they don't have the "good" celebrities. they have ted nugent, kid rock, washed up 80's sitcom stars, a few white football/baseball players, and that's about it. they embrace them when they are R's. chastise them for being D's. it's laughable. 

Halifax2TheMax

The guy inviting 900 people to the State Department holiday party tests negative after close contact with a positive. What a pompous ass. Any and  all from the Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat Administration should be banned from public service for the rest of their selfish lives. Maybe it was the Santa Claus that was at the party? He seems like a lap sitting type. He's at least a lap dog. I really hope folks remember this shit in 2, 4, 6, 8, 100 years from now. Not likely.

Pompeo tests negative for COVID-19, will quarantine after close contact with positive case - statement

WASHINGTON, Dec 16 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has tested negative for COVID-19, but will quarantine after coming in close contact with a person who tested positive for the virus.

A State Department spokesperson said in a statement Wednesday that Pompeo is being closely monitored by the department's medical team, and declined to identify the individual who tested positive, citing privacy reasons. (Reporting by Pete Schroeder, Editing by Franklin Paul)

tempo_n_groove

JeBurkhardt said:

brianlux said:

hedonist said:

what dreams said:

I wonder how much vaccine will be wasted by people who don't go back for dose 2. I remember getting the hepatitis vaccine a long time ago and never went back for my second dose. It was so long ago, I don't remember why.  Does anyone know if there's a system to monitor compliance? It would help if all the celebrities film their second dose in addition to the first, to reinforce the importance of that.

Honestly, common sense (and my doctor?) would dictate the second dose, certainly not someone famous. Celebrities are not the bastions of my behaviors, my beliefs, etc. The day they are, shoot me!

And I’m sure as hell not going to go through a first vaccine without the second. Did the same with the shingles vax, otherwise the whole thing is pointless. 

Yeah, same here.  Why only go half way?!

I also did the Shingrix vax a while back.  Man oh man, that shingles vax kicked my ass for about 24 hours!  Really felt like hell.  But I've known people who had Shingles and I'd trade one day of feeling shitty to avoid shingles any day!

While in the Navy, I underwent overseas screening to be eligible to be stationed on an island in the Bering Sea. Part of it was a Typhoid vaccination. I spent about a day in my bunk feeling like I had the worst cold I had ever had. My thought was if that is what the vaccine did, I sure as heck didn't want to get the actual disease.

Adak?

Spunkie

^ Keep us updated on how it makes you feel over the next couple weeks, please, Mr. W!

hedonist

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

There are people who follow celeb news as opposed to news news.  They know who's married to who, who's getting divorced, and who was spotted smoking outside of a restaurant.  Those people might be able to be swayed by celebrity promotion. I just wonder whether there could be a backfire effect because "don't let Hollyweird tell you what to do."

Generally, though, I think I like the idea of known people promoting. Hopefully some country musicians and athletes (or just known conservatives) would also participate.

I feel like this type of person is going to take any reason they can get to find fault with the process / not get the vaccine. 


While on the subject, has any celebrity worship in America reached the crescendo that the Trump worship has reached? 

It's weird how his getting elected president never finds it's way into the whole 'celebrity = bad' argument. (this isn't directed at you, @OnWis97, it's just a general observation) 

(EDIT: It's not my intention to derail the thread, but it feels like much of the resentment towards Hollywood & celebrity comes from the right, and the people who have supported / embraced Trump... it's a significant contradiction IMO)

I simply (and generally) don’t trust them, their agenda, and their feigned altruism. I’ve always mostly felt this way. They don’t know better or are remarkable human beings just because they have money and/or exposure.

As to celebrity worship and its heights, Trump is way up there, but he’s got plenty of company. 

HughFreakingDillon

i don't trust nor distrust them. they are regular people to me. just a different job with wildly different social events. except when you have 8 million followers to my 97, you tend to have more ears than i do. 

feigned altruism? does living in LA cause that level of cynicism? (serious question)

hedonist

HughFreakingDillon said:

i don't trust nor distrust them. they are regular people to me. just a different job with wildly different social events. except when you have 8 million followers to my 97, you tend to have more ears than i do. 

feigned altruism? does living in LA cause that level of cynicism? (serious question)

Not sure if it’s cynicism or just having my eyes open. I believe it exists outside of my city though. 

And thank goodness the term “following” and its coordinating phrases mean nothing to me! It’d feel strange if it did. 

JeBurkhardt

tempo_n_groove said:

JeBurkhardt said:

brianlux said:

hedonist said:

what dreams said:

I wonder how much vaccine will be wasted by people who don't go back for dose 2. I remember getting the hepatitis vaccine a long time ago and never went back for my second dose. It was so long ago, I don't remember why.  Does anyone know if there's a system to monitor compliance? It would help if all the celebrities film their second dose in addition to the first, to reinforce the importance of that.

Honestly, common sense (and my doctor?) would dictate the second dose, certainly not someone famous. Celebrities are not the bastions of my behaviors, my beliefs, etc. The day they are, shoot me!

And I’m sure as hell not going to go through a first vaccine without the second. Did the same with the shingles vax, otherwise the whole thing is pointless. 

Yeah, same here.  Why only go half way?!

I also did the Shingrix vax a while back.  Man oh man, that shingles vax kicked my ass for about 24 hours!  Really felt like hell.  But I've known people who had Shingles and I'd trade one day of feeling shitty to avoid shingles any day!

While in the Navy, I underwent overseas screening to be eligible to be stationed on an island in the Bering Sea. Part of it was a Typhoid vaccination. I spent about a day in my bunk feeling like I had the worst cold I had ever had. My thought was if that is what the vaccine did, I sure as heck didn't want to get the actual disease.

Adak?

Yes, my wife and I were stationed there between 1991 and 1993.  Our first kid was born at the base hospital. 

Merkin Baller

hedonist said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

There are people who follow celeb news as opposed to news news.  They know who's married to who, who's getting divorced, and who was spotted smoking outside of a restaurant.  Those people might be able to be swayed by celebrity promotion. I just wonder whether there could be a backfire effect because "don't let Hollyweird tell you what to do."

Generally, though, I think I like the idea of known people promoting. Hopefully some country musicians and athletes (or just known conservatives) would also participate.

I feel like this type of person is going to take any reason they can get to find fault with the process / not get the vaccine. 


While on the subject, has any celebrity worship in America reached the crescendo that the Trump worship has reached? 

It's weird how his getting elected president never finds it's way into the whole 'celebrity = bad' argument. (this isn't directed at you, @OnWis97, it's just a general observation) 

(EDIT: It's not my intention to derail the thread, but it feels like much of the resentment towards Hollywood & celebrity comes from the right, and the people who have supported / embraced Trump... it's a significant contradiction IMO)

I simply (and generally) don’t trust them, their agenda, and their feigned altruism. I’ve always mostly felt this way. They don’t know better or are remarkable human beings just because they have money and/or exposure.

As to celebrity worship and its heights, Trump is way up there, but he’s got plenty of company. 

I don’t think celebrity status automatically makes a person remarkable either, but I can still overcome my disdain of celebrity worship to recognize that anyone in the public eye volunteering for this vaccine is doing an important public service, and if they inspire their idiot fans to do the same, that’s even better, no? 

I genuinely don’t understand the complaining about celebrities volunteering to get the vaccine, in the end it’s a net positive. (unless you don’t think people should be vaccinated?) 

hedonist

Merkin Baller said:

hedonist said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

There are people who follow celeb news as opposed to news news.  They know who's married to who, who's getting divorced, and who was spotted smoking outside of a restaurant.  Those people might be able to be swayed by celebrity promotion. I just wonder whether there could be a backfire effect because "don't let Hollyweird tell you what to do."

Generally, though, I think I like the idea of known people promoting. Hopefully some country musicians and athletes (or just known conservatives) would also participate.

I feel like this type of person is going to take any reason they can get to find fault with the process / not get the vaccine. 


While on the subject, has any celebrity worship in America reached the crescendo that the Trump worship has reached? 

It's weird how his getting elected president never finds it's way into the whole 'celebrity = bad' argument. (this isn't directed at you, @OnWis97, it's just a general observation) 

(EDIT: It's not my intention to derail the thread, but it feels like much of the resentment towards Hollywood & celebrity comes from the right, and the people who have supported / embraced Trump... it's a significant contradiction IMO)

I simply (and generally) don’t trust them, their agenda, and their feigned altruism. I’ve always mostly felt this way. They don’t know better or are remarkable human beings just because they have money and/or exposure.

As to celebrity worship and its heights, Trump is way up there, but he’s got plenty of company. 

I don’t think celebrity status automatically makes a person remarkable either, but I can still overcome my disdain of celebrity worship to recognize that anyone in the public eye volunteering for this vaccine is doing an important public service, and if they inspire their idiot fans to do the same, that’s even better, no? 

I genuinely don’t understand the complaining about celebrities volunteering to get the vaccine, in the end it’s a net positive. (unless you don’t think people should be vaccinated?) 

I plan on getting it and don’t understand why others wouldn’t, barring health or other factors. 

I guess the end result can be beneficial, but I really do think the majority aren’t in it for true inspiration rather than another chance to be seen (or what some might call relevant).

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't think what what dreams is suggesting is a bad idea. no, most of US don't follow what celebrities do, but a pretty significant section of the globe actually does. the more people with massive platforms show that they are getting it, that it's trust worthy, the better. politicians, famous scholars, athletes, musicians; all of em. 

and especially: REPUBLICANS

although, people will still come up with "yeah, i bet they just got an injection of saline", but I think it would still be a net positive. 

I always heard celebrities aren't looked on as highly in other countries? That's why a lot will live in Europe or move back to Australia or whatever, because they are more normal there and not semi-gods that people here treat them like. 
Either way, the fact anyone does something, good or bad, because a celebrity told them to and not because its the smart thing to do, is still an idiot. I like my idea of creating penalties for not following through with the second vaccine and charging them for the first if they don't get the full treatment. 

If an idiot gets the vaccine because a celebrity told them too, isn't that still a good thing though? I mean... we're all in agreement that everyone should get vaccinated, right? 

Again, I fail to see the problem with celebrities promoting the vaccine. 

Idiots live among us, there's no getting around that fact... just look at all the people who think the election was rigged. 

Yes I agree we should be vaccinated and someone getting it because a celebrity told them is still a good thing.
I just think more people are tired of listening to celebrities and seeing their out of touch comments than there are people who are on the fence but because Kim Kardashian says to do it finally gets pushed to getting one. 

At the end of the day I doubt it makes a big difference either way, so I prefer to stop worshiping celebrities and giving them the spotlight. We spend way too much money and focus on people who aren’t really that important to our existence.

Weston1283

At the 14 hour mark I’m getting some pretty bad chills and a mild temperature but no other symptoms.  Felt good most of the day though.  

I’m 28, active and healthy, no medications or medical conditions 

This is a totally normal immune response and not unexpected.  If anything, it’s proving to me that I’d never want to get the actual virus itself and reaffirming my decision to get vaccinated 

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

i don't trust nor distrust them. they are regular people to me. just a different job with wildly different social events. except when you have 8 million followers to my 97, you tend to have more ears than i do. 

feigned altruism? does living in LA cause that level of cynicism? (serious question)

I lived in LA a good chunk of my life. It’s funny, people who are are into it can spot celebrities often. I couldn’t care less, most of the time when I was with friends and they pointed someone out I didn’t even know who it was. I generally stayed away from those hot spots because everything is overpriced, but when I was in my 20s that’s where coworkers and friends want to go for happy hour.
But what makes me mad is how much money they make, and really shows our level of worship. Not just Hollywood, but sports too. NFL minimum is $600,000. Even  practice squad makes $150-$200,000 for 17 weeks of practice. When you think about it and the best teacher in the country who literally turns lives around makes about 1/10 what the worst NFL player in the country makes who never even made it off the bench. To me that shows where our priorities are and our level of worship on sports and Hollywood. Like anyone would say “no thanks, I’ll go back to working at Best Buy” if the standard for salaries, TV or sports, were 1/5 what they are now. They’d still very well off financially.

hedonist

Weston1283 said:

At the 14 hour mark I’m getting some pretty bad chills and a mild temperature but no other symptoms.  Felt good most of the day though.  

I’m 28, active and healthy, no medications or medical conditions 

This is a totally normal immune response and not unexpected.  If anything, it’s proving to me that I’d never want to get the actual virus itself and reaffirming my decision to get vaccinated 

Great news! And amen to effects vs. virus.

Halifax2TheMax

Seems Tom Cruz’s faith in Scientology is faltering.

lastexitlondon

Weston1283 said:

At the 14 hour mark I’m getting some pretty bad chills and a mild temperature but no other symptoms.  Felt good most of the day though.  

I’m 28, active and healthy, no medications or medical conditions 

This is a totally normal immune response and not unexpected.  If anything, it’s proving to me that I’d never want to get the actual virus itself and reaffirming my decision to get vaccinated 

How did you get the vaccine. Are you a health care worker?

Poncier

lastexitlondon said:

Weston1283 said:

At the 14 hour mark I’m getting some pretty bad chills and a mild temperature but no other symptoms.  Felt good most of the day though.  

I’m 28, active and healthy, no medications or medical conditions 

This is a totally normal immune response and not unexpected.  If anything, it’s proving to me that I’d never want to get the actual virus itself and reaffirming my decision to get vaccinated 

How did you get the vaccine. Are you a health care worker?

Either that or a 4 digit 10 club number.

lastexitlondon

Hahah seniority 

Halifax2TheMax

Poncier said:

lastexitlondon said:

Weston1283 said:

At the 14 hour mark I’m getting some pretty bad chills and a mild temperature but no other symptoms.  Felt good most of the day though.  

I’m 28, active and healthy, no medications or medical conditions 

This is a totally normal immune response and not unexpected.  If anything, it’s proving to me that I’d never want to get the actual virus itself and reaffirming my decision to get vaccinated 

How did you get the vaccine. Are you a health care worker?

Either that or a 4 digit 10 club number.

Or a sharpie and a list.