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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,598
    rgambs said:
    Pfizer directly contradicted him with a statement immediately.
    yes they did, but it won't matter. millions will still believe that:

    a) this is trump's win
    b) pfizer delayed the announcement until after the election on purpose to let biden win

    in today's day, a response is nothing but pissing in the wind. once the first incendiary claim is out there, that monster is invincible.
    Correct. Yesterday a friend shared Pence's announcement about it while praising the work done by Trump to provide a vaccine. I wanted to call them on it, with Pfizer's response, but honestly it would have made zero difference. Some people are too far down the rabbit hole to turn back now. 
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    bbiggs said:
    Here’s Illinois covid rate and vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat by county



    I don't have time to pull up the exact data, but the heavy majority of the state's population is concentrated in the blue section surrounding Chicago.  Cook County (Chicago) and the surrounding counties are seeing the worst levels of Covid since the pandemic began.  I can assure you, those counties are not Team Trump.  So there are flaws in this correlation.  In any case, making this about red state/ blue state is not something I'm interested in.  The entire country is spiraling out of control regardless of political affiliation.
    By the same token, I hope you don't consider "both sides are the same."
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    Honest question—
    Should we attempt another lockdown to decrease the case load? Virus is on the horizon, which is great, but it’ll still be months until everyone has access.

    The numbers are skyrocketing and the hospitals are beyond stressed. Thoughts?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mfc2006 said:
    Honest question—
    Should we attempt another lockdown to decrease the case load? Virus is on the horizon, which is great, but it’ll still be months until everyone has access.

    The numbers are skyrocketing and the hospitals are beyond stressed. Thoughts?
    Yes and possibly do it right this time.  
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,333
    static111 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Honest question—
    Should we attempt another lockdown to decrease the case load? Virus is on the horizon, which is great, but it’ll still be months until everyone has access.

    The numbers are skyrocketing and the hospitals are beyond stressed. Thoughts?
    Yes and possibly do it right this time.  
    Right, half-measure lockdowns just slow it down until the next wave. The answer is so simple, but yet so hard to get people to commit to. If this country was serious, we'd lock down travel out of state/country for 21 days and let the current cases run their course. This would also require people to stay the fuck home except for food and medical care. After that; there would need to be required quarantine periods for those wanting entry/returning to the US.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,428
    Day 9 or the Rona. Seem fine for the most part. Never lost taste/smell, had issues breathing, or bad cough or fever. The biggest things I’ve noticed is that from mid-day on, I’m tired. Not exhausted, just tired, like I need a nap. The other is the headaches and “fuzzy brain.” Best I can describe it is it’s like the feeling one gets after getting a concussion. Stuff is slow and it’s hard to really focus on stuff. All in all, thankful that it hasn’t been too bad. I’ve had worse head/chest colds. 

    Waiting on test results for the wife (she’s had symptoms since Sunday night) and the toddler. He’s fine, and driving us nuts. I’m positive he brought it home from his daycare.

    Learned a friend from my home town came down with pneumonia from COVID and ended up in the hospital for a couple of days. She’s in her late 30s. No good.

    Take care and stay safe and healthy everyone.

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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,065
    Holy cow look at all those people in line to get tested at Dodger Stadium yesterday



    We have many drive through testing sites in Colorado. The wait time went from about 2 minutes to 15 minutes. I'm guessing this isn't normal. The tweet says many other locations are available in the area with much smaller lines. So I'm wondering if people just don't know about the others, are excite to go to Dodger stadium, or what the deal is. Because I have no doubt that its true many other facilities have a much smaller wait time.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    Day 9 or the Rona. Seem fine for the most part. Never lost taste/smell, had issues breathing, or bad cough or fever. The biggest things I’ve noticed is that from mid-day on, I’m tired. Not exhausted, just tired, like I need a nap. The other is the headaches and “fuzzy brain.” Best I can describe it is it’s like the feeling one gets after getting a concussion. Stuff is slow and it’s hard to really focus on stuff. All in all, thankful that it hasn’t been too bad. I’ve had worse head/chest colds. 

    Waiting on test results for the wife (she’s had symptoms since Sunday night) and the toddler. He’s fine, and driving us nuts. I’m positive he brought it home from his daycare.

    Learned a friend from my home town came down with pneumonia from COVID and ended up in the hospital for a couple of days. She’s in her late 30s. No good.

    Take care and stay safe and healthy everyone.

    Thanks for the update. Happy to hear you are doing well.
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,216
    Day 9 or the Rona. Seem fine for the most part. Never lost taste/smell, had issues breathing, or bad cough or fever. The biggest things I’ve noticed is that from mid-day on, I’m tired. Not exhausted, just tired, like I need a nap. The other is the headaches and “fuzzy brain.” Best I can describe it is it’s like the feeling one gets after getting a concussion. Stuff is slow and it’s hard to really focus on stuff. All in all, thankful that it hasn’t been too bad. I’ve had worse head/chest colds. 

    Waiting on test results for the wife (she’s had symptoms since Sunday night) and the toddler. He’s fine, and driving us nuts. I’m positive he brought it home from his daycare.

    Learned a friend from my home town came down with pneumonia from COVID and ended up in the hospital for a couple of days. She’s in her late 30s. No good.

    Take care and stay safe and healthy everyone.

    Glad your symptoms are mild. When I had it, I had similar symptoms. The fuzzy head felt like the morning after taking Nyquil. Also, felt the fatigue. But, I lost my sense of taste and smell a few days in. It didn't last too long. Hopefully, you won't get that. It is a weird sensation. I first noticed the loss of taste. I remember telling my sister that the food at the Thai place I ordered from that night went really downhill. I think I even used the term tasteless. Later that night I noticed the loss of smell.

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    mfc2006 said:
    Honest question—
    Should we attempt another lockdown to decrease the case load? Virus is on the horizon, which is great, but it’ll still be months until everyone has access.

    The numbers are skyrocketing and the hospitals are beyond stressed. Thoughts?
    yes.

    we have to have a national lockdown. no excuses this time. close the gyms. close bars. close stores. hospitals are overstrained and medical staff is really fatigued after 8 months of dealing with this. this thing is beating americans.

    we should have done this 6 months ago. every day we delay is more more well people getting sick and more lives lost.

    it is clear that we will not beat this thing with the lazyass approach we have been taking the last 8 months.
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    Sweden is going to hell.

    I repeat:

    Sweden is going to hell.

    My mom told me she had a box of facemasks. In her bag. Unopened. But she promised me now to use them when going by bus to her job.

    This winter is gonna be crazy in Europe.

    The number of admitted corona patients is increasing faster in Sweden than in any other European country. It reports the newspaper Financial Times.

    The newspaper writes that the number of cases, hospitalized and dead is significantly higher than in Denmark, Norway and Finland, even if the population is taken into account.

    They also write that the spread of infection in Sweden is now starting to catch up with what was seen in the UK during the autumn.
    Yes take it very seriously 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,053
    I am not for another lockdown.  Be responsible, wear a mask, socially distance and wash your hands.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am not for another lockdown.  Be responsible, wear a mask, socially distance and wash your hands.   
    i see your point but i disagree.

    we have been harping on these 4 simple steps for 8 months. it has not worked because people are not doing it. to me it is that easy.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am not for another lockdown.  Be responsible, wear a mask, socially distance and wash your hands.   
    i see your point but i disagree.

    we have been harping on these 4 simple steps for 8 months. it has not worked because people are not doing it. to me it is that easy.
    And these are things that mitigate and not eliminate like a hard lockdown would.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am not for another lockdown.  Be responsible, wear a mask, socially distance and wash your hands.   
    i see your point but i disagree.

    we have been harping on these 4 simple steps for 8 months. it has not worked because people are not doing it. to me it is that easy.
    Bingo
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    just had a mandatory team video call. parts of iowa and chicago are eliminating elective surgeries starting monday due to covid. no timeline on when this will be lifted.

    central missouri may be doing the same. this will not hurt me as i do not cover central of western mo anymore, but if western and southern il shuts down electives i could be screwed.

    shit is bleak right now.
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    JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,451
    mfc2006 said:
    Honest question—
    Should we attempt another lockdown to decrease the case load? Virus is on the horizon, which is great, but it’ll still be months until everyone has access.

    The numbers are skyrocketing and the hospitals are beyond stressed. Thoughts?
    Seems like we need a lockdown, as well as for EVERYONE to wear a mask.

    Don't know why so many people are fighting against common sense!
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    just had a mandatory team video call. parts of iowa and chicago are eliminating elective surgeries starting monday due to covid. no timeline on when this will be lifted.

    central missouri may be doing the same. this will not hurt me as i do not cover central of western mo anymore, but if western and southern il shuts down electives i could be screwed.

    shit is bleak right now.
    KU Med is cutting back on surgeries immediately to free up beds. My boss won’t let us work from home until the county makes it official — even though a lot of us are far more efficient at home.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,065
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am not for another lockdown.  Be responsible, wear a mask, socially distance and wash your hands.   
    I agree. Even on full lockdown there’s too many exceptions and too many essential stores still opened. Stay open, be strict about your business. Maybe even invest in those forehead thermometers or something if you’re a business owner. On full lockdown you can still go to Home Depot every day, get your car worked on, grocery shop, stop at the liquor store, stop at the bank. And do it all again tomorrow. Just be smarter with the restrictions.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,474
    Yeah this is nuts stay safe & deligent, try to limit my exposure to general public as much as possible, got to grocery store in early morning avoid the busy hours so it’s the same as the past work home work home..
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Lock it down.
    We are about to swan dive off a cliff into a sea of our freedoms and we will drown there in our hubris.
    The economic ramifications of shutdowns aren't going to be any worse than the economic ramifications of skyrocketing death and serious tolls.
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    Shame people are so stupid. I haven't locked myself in my home since March. I worked in the office until August when I got a new position and now work from home. Regardless, I've been to stores, visited National Parks in the summer and take walks/hikes frequently. I wear a mask around others and honestly I can count on one hand how many times I've been in close contact with someone else who was not wearing a mask since March. I'm baffled how 150,000 Americans are becoming infected daily, it's not that hard to keep your distance and act responsibly. I don't support a 'Lockdown" because at that point you are unfairly punishing the people who have acted responsibly for 8 plus months. Not to mention the harm to the economy, small business in particular. Unless we get a legit stimulus which seems far fetched at this point. I intend on spending Thanksgiving week at Death Valley, exploring nature while socially distancing and living my life. If the government wants to step in and tell me I can't and that's being irresponsible than fuck them at this point. Go talk to the people having mass gatherings and the rest of the oblivious fucks. 
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I'm sick to death of the "fuck your feelings" crowd whining about masks, about freedom, about their guns and their President being unseated.  
    Fuck your feelings, fuck your bullshit excuses, fuck you.
    Put a fucking mask on and quit living like there's no pandemic.
    Our county is about to be the worst in Ohio and I'll tell you from experience, if you think Trumpism isn't part of the cause, you don't know your head from your ass.  Get out of your bubble and see what kind of raving lunatic morons populate "middle America".
    Fuck 'em all.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    rgambs said:
    Lock it down.
    We are about to swan dive off a cliff into a sea of our freedoms and we will drown there in our hubris.
    The economic ramifications of shutdowns aren't going to be any worse than the economic ramifications of skyrocketing death and serious tolls.
    This
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Shame people are so stupid. I haven't locked myself in my home since March. I worked in the office until August when I got a new position and now work from home. Regardless, I've been to stores, visited National Parks in the summer and take walks/hikes frequently. I wear a mask around others and honestly I can count on one hand how many times I've been in close contact with someone else who was not wearing a mask since March. I'm baffled how 150,000 Americans are becoming infected daily, it's not that hard to keep your distance and act responsibly. I don't support a 'Lockdown" because at that point you are unfairly punishing the people who have acted responsibly for 8 plus months. Not to mention the harm to the economy, small business in particular. Unless we get a legit stimulus which seems far fetched at this point. I intend on spending Thanksgiving week at Death Valley, exploring nature while socially distancing and living my life. If the government wants to step in and tell me I can't and that's being irresponsible than fuck them at this point. Go talk to the people having mass gatherings and the rest of the oblivious fucks. 
    Plenty of BLM land out there to explore, shutdown won't effect that.. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    mfc2006 said:
    just had a mandatory team video call. parts of iowa and chicago are eliminating elective surgeries starting monday due to covid. no timeline on when this will be lifted.

    central missouri may be doing the same. this will not hurt me as i do not cover central of western mo anymore, but if western and southern il shuts down electives i could be screwed.

    shit is bleak right now.
    KU Med is cutting back on surgeries immediately to free up beds. My boss won’t let us work from home until the county makes it official — even though a lot of us are far more efficient at home.
    just saw on local news that the biggest hospital system in st louis has kaboshed elective cases until further notice. the news said that the hospital system is even looking at stopping other surgeries and is evaluating on a case by case basis. they have no beds available for patients to have any form of surgery requiring 23 hour observation.

    i call on this hospital system. i am probably hosed for hitting my quota now. god damn it.

    in all honesty, they should have bagged these cases and shut down electives before halloween.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    rgambs said:
    Lock it down.
    We are about to swan dive off a cliff into a sea of our freedoms and we will drown there in our hubris.
    The economic ramifications of shutdowns aren't going to be any worse than the economic ramifications of skyrocketing death and serious tolls.
    that bolded part, 100%.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,299
    rgambs said:
    I'm sick to death of the "fuck your feelings" crowd whining about masks, about freedom, about their guns and their President being unseated.  
    Fuck your feelings, fuck your bullshit excuses, fuck you.
    Put a fucking mask on and quit living like there's no pandemic.
    Our county is about to be the worst in Ohio and I'll tell you from experience, if you think Trumpism isn't part of the cause, you don't know your head from your ass.  Get out of your bubble and see what kind of raving lunatic morons populate "middle America".
    Fuck 'em all.
    dude you are gonna blow out an o-ring. 

    i like it!
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