got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid.
well done, govnah.
How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢
Are you serious that staff are being permitted (or required) to work when still testing positive? What are the parameters for that?
yes. hospital workers that test positive can continue to work unless they have a fever or new symptoms. they are supposed to get their temperature checked several times throughout their shift when they have a known positive test.
pretty fucked up, eh?
Indeed it is. That's madness, given what we know about asymptomatic spread.
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IL is getting hit harder than at any point during the pandemic. We have one of the most restrictive (Democrat) governors in the country. I didn’t realize we became a red state. Learned something new today.
IL is getting hit harder than at any point during the pandemic. We have one of the most restrictive (Democrat) governors in the country. I didn’t realize we became a red state. Learned something new today.
It’s not whether your governor is restrictive or not or whether it’s populace is red or blue but whether your populace listens to and abides by the science and what your restrictive governor advocates for. And last time I checked, and correct me if I’m wrong, outside of the major urban areas, Illinois is pretty red, yes? How does Illinois compare to the Shangra la of Indianer or ND and SD?
Here’s Wisconsin where a dem governor had her state house stormed by armed thugs and a kidnapping plot against her foiled because of, you know, freedumb.
You wanna know what privelege is? Seeing 1.3 million deaths to date and snarkily wondering aloud if more Trump voters caught it.
How is that privilege? That's not well-thought. Trump voters are anti-mask and against any modifications to their routines and lives. They are willfully driving the spread through their churches, bars, restaurants, and family gatherings while more open-minded (and intelligent) people to the left of Trump are trying to do what they can to mitigate spread and getting caught up in the rising numbers. The privilege exists on the right, where everyone is anti right up until someone they know dies or nearly dies. That's where the privilege exists.
got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid.
well done, govnah.
How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢
Are you serious that staff are being permitted (or required) to work when still testing positive? What are the parameters for that?
yes. hospital workers that test positive can continue to work unless they have a fever or new symptoms. they are supposed to get their temperature checked several times throughout their shift when they have a known positive test.
pretty fucked up, eh?
What I read however is that they are working in Covid wards, so the folks they are treating already have Covid, Again not ideal, but at least they aren't treating other folks who they could pass the virus to.
Here’s Wisconsin where a dem governor had her state house stormed by armed thugs and a kidnapping plot against her foiled because of, you know, freedumb.
That happened in Michigan, not Wiscosnin. Wisconsin Governor is male, Tony Evers, and has not had a kidnapping plot against him.
This country is fucked. Schools just went back to full distance learning as cases are spiking out of control. We had already opted for distance so no change for us. Governor just put some soft mandates in place to limit bars and restaurant hours again because they are tying high spread after 10pm when people have had a few and get lax. Anyone at a bar probably doesn't care that much either way so that was a no brainer. Meanwhile, my family asked if we wanted to come over for Thanksgiving for a small gathering of family. We declined. I can't fully trust they are taking all precautions. Based on what I see at work, I really don't trust anyone anymore. People say one thing, but when you catch them with their mask down, the excuses flow. Almost every time we have a positive case and the area tries to claim they wore masks all the time and distanced, I just scoff. Bullshit, I have eyes too.
got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid.
well done, govnah.
How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢
Are you serious that staff are being permitted (or required) to work when still testing positive? What are the parameters for that?
Yep it’s happening I believe Arkansas it the state I saw having to do this, they are being overrun by the virus.
Wife’s coworker was in contact with a person who tested positive. Now the office is closed and everyone is awaiting the coworker’s test results. Hoping he tests negative and that’s as far as it goes. Texas and the free dumb to do what you want and not be oppressed by masks. Thanks GOP
got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid.
well done, govnah.
How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢
Are you serious that staff are being permitted (or required) to work when still testing positive? What are the parameters for that?
yes. hospital workers that test positive can continue to work unless they have a fever or new symptoms. they are supposed to get their temperature checked several times throughout their shift when they have a known positive test.
pretty fucked up, eh?
Do they regularly test or just when they show symptoms? Most are just required to test if they start to feel bad or have a fever, so there are plenty asymptomatic people with allergies sneezing it around like nobody’s business right now at most places of employment. They aren’t getting tested because it’s “just allergies”, yet the public saturation with this virus is growing daily...exponentially. I’ll definitely be dodging sneezers “like they have the plague (pun intended)” any way I can right now!
i think they also have to test once they have a confirmed exposure to a sick patient. a few months ago i was covering a surgery and found out 2 days later that the patient tested positive. all of us in that room had to quarantine until we got tested. i got tested the day after i found out and was fortunately negative.
the problem is, more patients are going in to hospitals and surgery centers that are positive and everyone that comes into contact with them is then exposed. there are not enough travel or temporary hospital patient care staff to cover, so either the covid positive staff stays home and overworks the rest of the staff, or they work and expose everyone else. it is a huge clusterfuck.
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Holy smokes that is seriously unbelievable. Here in S Florida I'm getting hesitant about any large gathering for Thanksgiving or over the holidays. This thing is NOT going away anytime soon.
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You wanna know what privelege is? Seeing 1.3 million deaths to date and snarkily wondering aloud if more Trump voters caught it.
Relax. It doesn’t have to be about a political dunk. While it’s unsavory to do a touchdown dance about being correct, it is worth knowing whether people who generally take this more seriously are less likely to be infected. For example, when White House staff start catching it, I don’t like to celebrate it but I still feel that it’s an important story to share because perhaps it can wake some people up to the fact that we can’t wish it away.
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Here’s Wisconsin where a dem governor had her state house stormed by armed thugs and a kidnapping plot against her foiled because of, you know, freedumb.
That happened in Michigan, not Wiscosnin. Wisconsin Governor is male, Tony Evers, and has not had a kidnapping plot against him.
Doh! Michigan, Wisconsin, it’s all the same. I’ll look up Michigan. Mittens, cheese heads, oh my!
Holy smokes that is seriously unbelievable. Here in S Florida I'm getting hesitant about any large gathering for Thanksgiving or over the holidays. This thing is NOT going away anytime soon.
stay safe down there!
i know my extended family are not getting together for thanksgiving. and we are probably not getting together for the holidays either.
i used to not be too worried about my own safety, but as this pandemic rages on it is clear that most people do not care about people other than themselves, so i am only leaving the house for work related activities and urgent errands like the grocery store, pharmacy, etc.
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A record-breaking surge in U.S. coronavirus cases is being driven to a significant degree by casual occasions that may feel deceptively safe, officials and scientists warn — dinner parties, game nights, sleepovers and carpools.
Many earlier coronavirus clusters were linked to nursing homes and crowded nightclubs. But public health officials nationwide say case investigations are increasingly leading them to small, private social gatherings. This behind-doors transmission trend reflects pandemic fatigue and widening social bubbles, experts say — and is particularly insidious because it is so difficult to police and likely to increase as temperatures drop and holidays approach.
The White House coronavirus task force has been urging states that are virus hot spots to curtail maskless get-togethers of family and friends, saying in reports that asymptomatic attendees “cause ongoing transmission, frequently infecting multiple people in a single gathering.”
As new daily cases in the United States surpassed 145,000 on Wednesday, New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D) announced a 10-person limit on gatherings in private homes, calling them a “great spreader.” Similar restrictions have been imposed in states including Ohio; Utah; Connecticut; Colorado, where one recent cluster involved seven people infected while playing the dice game bunco; and Rhode Island, whose governor has pledged to fine violators. Oregon last week announced a “pause” in hard-hit counties on most groups larger than six people.
“Earlier in the outbreak, much of the growth in new daily cases was being driven by focal outbreaks — long-term care facilities, things of that nature,” said Nirav Shah, director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Maine, where cases have soared in the past two weeks. “Now, the kitchen table is a place of risk.”
In Maine, as in other states, case investigators are seeing a new and related pattern: People who are infected list more close contacts than they did earlier, making the work of contact tracers more time-consuming and complicated. From March through September, the average number of contacts identified in Maine coronavirus investigations was 3.5. In October, that rose to 5.8.
“Earlier in the outbreak, much of the growth in new daily cases was being driven by focal outbreaks — long-term care facilities, things of that nature,” said Nirav Shah, director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Maine, where cases have soared in the past two weeks. “Now, the kitchen table is a place of risk.”
In Maine, as in other states, case investigators are seeing a new and related pattern: People who are infected list more close contacts than they did earlier, making the work of contact tracers more time-consuming and complicated. From March through September, the average number of contacts identified in Maine coronavirus investigations was 3.5. In October, that rose to 5.8.
“Often, they’re with people we know really well,” Rubin said of these gatherings. “We let our guard down.”
Amber Calderon now knows she did that in October. The 24-year-old was excited to see some of her relatives for the first time in months at her nephew’s birthday party — and she felt safe. The Conroe, Tex., resident knew her relatives wore masks and socially distanced in their day-to-day lives, she said, so she “trusted everyone.”
About 25 people attended the party at a house, and Calderon said just one person wore a mask — her 81-year-old grandmother. Calderon started to feel ill a few days later, and she tested positive for the coronavirus on Oct. 20. Ten other people who were there also got sick, she said, including her grandmother.
“When I tested positive, I was mad at the situation I put myself in,” Calderon said. “I should’ve never attended that party that day. None of us should have. I knew better.”
In some places, the sheer volume of cases is so great that public health departments cannot connect the dots between them or discern whether a gathering attended by one infected person is the same as one reported by another.
In Minnesota, which reported a single-day record of nearly 6,000 cases on Sunday, the state’s infectious-disease director, Kris Ehresmann, described what she called a “circular” problem: Social gatherings are leading to more community spread, and more spread is making those events ever riskier.
“It’s getting more and more difficult to really tease out an interpretation of these data, because our community transmission just keeps going up,” said Amy Westbrook, the public health director of St. Louis County, Minn.
In her county, she said, 30 percent of people who test positive say they don’t know where they caught the virus, and a rapidly growing number haven’t even spoken to overwhelmed contact tracers. Westbrook said she is stepping up public education efforts, but she knows residents are somewhat numb to messages about masks, handwashing and staying home. And local law enforcement agencies, she said, have other matters to focus on than dinner parties.
With Thanksgiving two weeks away and coronavirus cases rising in New York, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo tightened restrictions in the state on Wednesday by limiting private, at-home gatherings — including holiday celebrations — to just 10 people.
The Democrat’s move outraged some critics, including one New York City Council member who defiantly declared he wouldn’t follow the governor’s rules.
“I’ll be having more than 10 ppl at my house on Thanksgiving,” Joe Borelli, a Staten Island Republican who is the council’s minority whip, said in a tweet Wednesday. “Some family will come from (gasp!) New Jersey. Kids will see their grandparents, cousins will play in the yard, sis in law will bring strawberry rhubarb pie, & a turkey will be overcooked.”
As fall has brought colder weather to the Northeast, New York and New Jersey have reported an increase in new daily coronavirus cases in recent weeks, although the number of new daily infections isn’t as high as it was in late March and April when New York City was a hotbed of the pandemic.
Thanks Joey. Sometimes I think I'm just waiting to die.
Pfizer directly contradicted him with a statement immediately.
yes they did, but it won't matter. millions will still believe that:
a) this is trump's win b) pfizer delayed the announcement until after the election on purpose to let biden win
in today's day, a response is nothing but pissing in the wind. once the first incendiary claim is out there, that monster is invincible.
I would agree with you on A. But the timing is too good for there not to be some truth behind B. It’s not like these things happen over night, they could have made the announcement a week earlier.Maybe it was more to spite Trump than help Biden, or to keep him from taking credit. But the timing is too perfect to not be suspect.
Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at 135,000 cases a day and said * *
Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at deaths climbing to 1400 a day and said * *
Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at refrigerated trucks being rushed to places like El Paso and Utah to store all the dead bodies and said * *
Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at all the lies and blatant disregard for public health that an idiotic 47% in this country approved of and said * *
* * = use imagination.
22% if you are talking total population, 31% if you are talking electorate and this is assuming all of those who voted for him also approved his handling of the pandemic. This “half of the country“ nonsense needs to stop, constantly spewing this on every issue is not a good look for either side. Same with saying all democrats or all republicans are "xyz". It is lazy and sending a dangerous message to those who are not yet wise enough to realize everything they read on the internet is not true. People can create change much faster than any government and right now I just see two factions taking every shot they can at each other thinking that they speak for the rest of us while doing it.
Seeing the spike in cases and hospitalizations gets my ire. Plus, they think I’m a trump fan
I think it gets us all worked up, at least those of us who have any compassion towards humanity as a whole. I just worry that the message being sent to our children and the younger generations is to pick a side and do not associate with the other. Partisan prejudice is no different than racial prejudice, but one of those is widely accepted as being harmless. The problem is those who vote seem to be driving this narrative the most, and in reality they make up less than half of the country when combined. I just think we could all use a break from politicizing everything, stay safe.
Here’s Illinois covid rate and vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat by county
I don't have time to pull up the exact data, but the heavy majority of the state's population is concentrated in the blue section surrounding Chicago. Cook County (Chicago) and the surrounding counties are seeing the worst levels of Covid since the pandemic began. I can assure you, those counties are not Team Trump. So there are flaws in this correlation. In any case, making this about red state/ blue state is not something I'm interested in. The entire country is spiraling out of control regardless of political affiliation.
My mom told me she had a box of facemasks. In her bag. Unopened. But she promised me now to use them when going by bus to her job.
This winter is gonna be crazy in Europe.
The number of admitted corona patients is increasing faster in Sweden than in any other European country. It reports the newspaper Financial Times.
The newspaper writes that the number of cases, hospitalized and dead is significantly higher than in Denmark, Norway and Finland, even if the population is taken into account.
They also write that the spread of infection in Sweden is now starting to catch up with what was seen in the UK during the autumn.
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Indeed it is. That's madness, given what we know about asymptomatic spread.
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Trump voters are anti-mask and against any modifications to their routines and lives. They are willfully driving the spread through their churches, bars, restaurants, and family gatherings while more open-minded (and intelligent) people to the left of Trump are trying to do what they can to mitigate spread and getting caught up in the rising numbers.
The privilege exists on the right, where everyone is anti right up until someone they know dies or nearly dies. That's where the privilege exists.
Again not ideal, but at least they aren't treating other folks who they could pass the virus to.
Wisconsin Governor is male, Tony Evers, and has not had a kidnapping plot against him.
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the problem is, more patients are going in to hospitals and surgery centers that are positive and everyone that comes into contact with them is then exposed. there are not enough travel or temporary hospital patient care staff to cover, so either the covid positive staff stays home and overworks the rest of the staff, or they work and expose everyone else. it is a huge clusterfuck.
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S Florida I'm getting hesitant about any large gathering for Thanksgiving or over the holidays. This thing is NOT going away anytime soon.
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i know my extended family are not getting together for thanksgiving. and we are probably not getting together for the holidays either.
i used to not be too worried about my own safety, but as this pandemic rages on it is clear that most people do not care about people other than themselves, so i am only leaving the house for work related activities and urgent errands like the grocery store, pharmacy, etc.
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Pfizer Announces First Batch Of Coronavirus Vaccine Will Be Collector’s Edition Limited To 2,000 Doses
https://www.theonion.com/pfizer-announces-first-batch-of-coronavirus-vaccine-wil-1845644705
I love how the ceo profited on the day of announcement...lol.
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Many earlier coronavirus clusters were linked to nursing homes and crowded nightclubs. But public health officials nationwide say case investigations are increasingly leading them to small, private social gatherings. This behind-doors transmission trend reflects pandemic fatigue and widening social bubbles, experts say — and is particularly insidious because it is so difficult to police and likely to increase as temperatures drop and holidays approach.
The White House coronavirus task force has been urging states that are virus hot spots to curtail maskless get-togethers of family and friends, saying in reports that asymptomatic attendees “cause ongoing transmission, frequently infecting multiple people in a single gathering.”
As new daily cases in the United States surpassed 145,000 on Wednesday, New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D) announced a 10-person limit on gatherings in private homes, calling them a “great spreader.” Similar restrictions have been imposed in states including Ohio; Utah; Connecticut; Colorado, where one recent cluster involved seven people infected while playing the dice game bunco; and Rhode Island, whose governor has pledged to fine violators. Oregon last week announced a “pause” in hard-hit counties on most groups larger than six people.
“Earlier in the outbreak, much of the growth in new daily cases was being driven by focal outbreaks — long-term care facilities, things of that nature,” said Nirav Shah, director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Maine, where cases have soared in the past two weeks. “Now, the kitchen table is a place of risk.”
In Maine, as in other states, case investigators are seeing a new and related pattern: People who are infected list more close contacts than they did earlier, making the work of contact tracers more time-consuming and complicated. From March through September, the average number of contacts identified in Maine coronavirus investigations was 3.5. In October, that rose to 5.8.
“Earlier in the outbreak, much of the growth in new daily cases was being driven by focal outbreaks — long-term care facilities, things of that nature,” said Nirav Shah, director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Maine, where cases have soared in the past two weeks. “Now, the kitchen table is a place of risk.”
In Maine, as in other states, case investigators are seeing a new and related pattern: People who are infected list more close contacts than they did earlier, making the work of contact tracers more time-consuming and complicated. From March through September, the average number of contacts identified in Maine coronavirus investigations was 3.5. In October, that rose to 5.8.
“Often, they’re with people we know really well,” Rubin said of these gatherings. “We let our guard down.”
Amber Calderon now knows she did that in October. The 24-year-old was excited to see some of her relatives for the first time in months at her nephew’s birthday party — and she felt safe. The Conroe, Tex., resident knew her relatives wore masks and socially distanced in their day-to-day lives, she said, so she “trusted everyone.”
About 25 people attended the party at a house, and Calderon said just one person wore a mask — her 81-year-old grandmother. Calderon started to feel ill a few days later, and she tested positive for the coronavirus on Oct. 20. Ten other people who were there also got sick, she said, including her grandmother.
“When I tested positive, I was mad at the situation I put myself in,” Calderon said. “I should’ve never attended that party that day. None of us should have. I knew better.”
In some places, the sheer volume of cases is so great that public health departments cannot connect the dots between them or discern whether a gathering attended by one infected person is the same as one reported by another.
In Minnesota, which reported a single-day record of nearly 6,000 cases on Sunday, the state’s infectious-disease director, Kris Ehresmann, described what she called a “circular” problem: Social gatherings are leading to more community spread, and more spread is making those events ever riskier.
“It’s getting more and more difficult to really tease out an interpretation of these data, because our community transmission just keeps going up,” said Amy Westbrook, the public health director of St. Louis County, Minn.
In her county, she said, 30 percent of people who test positive say they don’t know where they caught the virus, and a rapidly growing number haven’t even spoken to overwhelmed contact tracers. Westbrook said she is stepping up public education efforts, but she knows residents are somewhat numb to messages about masks, handwashing and staying home. And local law enforcement agencies, she said, have other matters to focus on than dinner parties.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/12/covid-social-gatherings/
And then there's this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/12/staten-island-republican-thanksgiving-covid/
With Thanksgiving two weeks away and coronavirus cases rising in New York, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo tightened restrictions in the state on Wednesday by limiting private, at-home gatherings — including holiday celebrations — to just 10 people.
The Democrat’s move outraged some critics, including one New York City Council member who defiantly declared he wouldn’t follow the governor’s rules.
“I’ll be having more than 10 ppl at my house on Thanksgiving,” Joe Borelli, a Staten Island Republican who is the council’s minority whip, said in a tweet Wednesday. “Some family will come from (gasp!) New Jersey. Kids will see their grandparents, cousins will play in the yard, sis in law will bring strawberry rhubarb pie, & a turkey will be overcooked.”
As fall has brought colder weather to the Northeast, New York and New Jersey have reported an increase in new daily coronavirus cases in recent weeks, although the number of new daily infections isn’t as high as it was in late March and April when New York City was a hotbed of the pandemic.
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I don't have time to pull up the exact data, but the heavy majority of the state's population is concentrated in the blue section surrounding Chicago. Cook County (Chicago) and the surrounding counties are seeing the worst levels of Covid since the pandemic began. I can assure you, those counties are not Team Trump. So there are flaws in this correlation. In any case, making this about red state/ blue state is not something I'm interested in. The entire country is spiraling out of control regardless of political affiliation.
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Sweden is going to hell.
My mom told me she had a box of facemasks. In her bag. Unopened. But she promised me now to use them when going by bus to her job.
This winter is gonna be crazy in Europe.