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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Biden crowd:
    Thousands flock to NYCs Times Square to celebrate Joe Bidens victory

    Trump crowd:
    Trump rally-goers must agree they wont sue if they contract coronavirus -  CBS News


    Both bad ideas.  In that one picture of a few from Biden’s crowd, there is one person not wearing a mask and one with it below their nose.  Those two could infect everyone around them, not to mention no social distancing.  Both pics look like bad judgement during a pandemic.  
    In the livestreams last night, people were not being careful at all.
    Really it’s like night & day to me both sides are not the same lol look to what states are the highest infections rate? All red

    Exactly.  That's what Heather Cox Richards pointed out statistically.  Again, "93% of the 376 counties with the highest numbers of coronavirus cases per capita voted for Trump".

    So here is an opportunity for people of all parties to come together.  Realize the mistakes of large group gatherings, especially without masks, lose the allegiance to public figures who are ignorant on the issue an go with true science and medicine and work together to reduce and eventually end this thing.  I can't see any reason anyone would not go along with that-- not even outliers who would love to see the human population decimated.  COVID is taking many lives, but it will not significantly reduce world-wide human population numbers and it is only serving to cause much pain, suffering and grief.

    Yes it’s pretty clear how this virus should of been dealt with from the very beginning! Wear a fuckiing mask and avoid large gatherings, so yes both sides are guilty of not abiding by simple safety measures!!
    Exactly what I was saying.
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    ...ehm... what about... avoiding large gatherings.. but... ehm... not wear a mask?


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,471
    https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1325771600264835072?s=21
    Ok let’s hope this works out for humanity! 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,828
    Pfizer... getting it done
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    Rounding the curve.



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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,058
    mrussel1 said:
    Pfizer... getting it done
    Best news yet since the pandemic started. 
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    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pfizer... getting it done
    Best news yet since the pandemic started. 
    True, if everyone wears a mask, stays smart and gets vaccinated by the end of 2021 maybe we can enjoy a celebration for the ages in 2022. The combination of Science plus common sense is the ONLY way this ends. Patience is going to be the key to how many lives we lose in 2021. Just because Pfizer and other vaccines are on the way doesn't mean COVID is going to throw in the towel and go home. Sadly that's what a large portion of our population is going to assume. An instant gratification society facing down a pandemic that's going to take another 12-18 months to contain makes me nervous. 
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,058
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pfizer... getting it done
    Best news yet since the pandemic started. 
    True, if everyone wears a mask, stays smart and gets vaccinated by the end of 2021 maybe we can enjoy a celebration for the ages in 2022. The combination of Science plus common sense is the ONLY way this ends. Patience is going to be the key to how many lives we lose in 2021. Just because Pfizer and other vaccines are on the way doesn't mean COVID is going to throw in the towel and go home. Sadly that's what a large portion of our population is going to assume. An instant gratification society facing down a pandemic that's going to take another 12-18 months to contain makes me nervous. 
    I am trying to be optimistic and hoping we can have concerts again next summer. I know the odds of that happening may be not the best but as of right now I would prefer to be thinking positive. I do not think we should rush this but if a vaccine that works as well as these numbers suggest is out by spring and the sick/old/vulnerable are able to have it readily available I think I would be ok with things going back to normal. 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    PJNB said:
    PJNB said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pfizer... getting it done
    Best news yet since the pandemic started. 
    True, if everyone wears a mask, stays smart and gets vaccinated by the end of 2021 maybe we can enjoy a celebration for the ages in 2022. The combination of Science plus common sense is the ONLY way this ends. Patience is going to be the key to how many lives we lose in 2021. Just because Pfizer and other vaccines are on the way doesn't mean COVID is going to throw in the towel and go home. Sadly that's what a large portion of our population is going to assume. An instant gratification society facing down a pandemic that's going to take another 12-18 months to contain makes me nervous. 
    I am trying to be optimistic and hoping we can have concerts again next summer. I know the odds of that happening may be not the best but as of right now I would prefer to be thinking positive. I do not think we should rush this but if a vaccine that works as well as these numbers suggest is out by spring and the sick/old/vulnerable are able to have it readily available I think I would be ok with things going back to normal. 
    Yeah that would be awesome, regardless news like this hopefully puts us on a path to normalcy and concerts in 2022. I could see concerts in 2021 but regionalized and after a majority of the population was vaccinated. Say for Ohana you have to be resident of California to attend. As long as the spread was under control in that region the show would go on. Same for the European leg, to attend you have to reside in that country. Europeans are way more likely to get vaccinated than Americans. We have a decent sized fringe group that won't take the vaccine initially. Which is why a 90% effective vaccine would be HUGE. We'll probably be close to 20% herd immunity before the vaccine even rolls out. Even if only 75% of this country takes the vaccine we'd still be in pretty good shape. Those at risk and the elderly will probably eclipse that 75% number. Why would anyone voluntarily risk dying or living in a world where you can't even hug your grandchildren? 
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,780
    I hope we see more of this quickly and people respond positively...fingers crossed.


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    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson has tested positive for the coronavirus, a HUD spokesman confirmed.

    Carson, who tested positive Monday morning, was at the White House last Tuesday for an election night event, as was White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who also has tested positive for the virus. Carson was around senior administration officials and other Cabinet members during the event.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/09/ben-carson-coronavirus/

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    Regarding all of the pro-biden gatherings, yes, idiocy doesn't know politics. let's be honest with ourselves: if Pearl Jam were to decide to hold an indoor concert and said "just wear masks", that place would still sell out in an instant, and i can count on one hand how many people on this forum i know right now wouldn't go, but the rest? 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    hoping this vaccine works out. too bad for trump this announcement didn't come two weeks ago. LOL
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,331

    Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson has tested positive for the coronavirus, a HUD spokesman confirmed.

    Carson, who tested positive Monday morning, was at the White House last Tuesday for an election night event, as was White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who also has tested positive for the virus. Carson was around senior administration officials and other Cabinet members during the event.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/09/ben-carson-coronavirus/

    Just read that from AP. These people suck. The fact that they hide it is even more disgusting.

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-election-night-party-virus-d229a9d6d26e11dd30ce43294035850f
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Regarding all of the pro-biden gatherings, yes, idiocy doesn't know politics. let's be honest with ourselves: if Pearl Jam were to decide to hold an indoor concert and said "just wear masks", that place would still sell out in an instant, and i can count on one hand how many people on this forum i know right now wouldn't go, but the rest? 
    I don’t care what the “cause” is; I wouldn’t put myself in that position for family, so I sure as hell wouldn’t for Pearl Jam! If others are okay with it, that’s on them (and hopefully not transmitted).
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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,426
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    crazy. would have been quicker for you to just drive up to winnipeg and get one. got my negative result in 24 hours. and they notify of positive results first. 
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    Regarding all of the pro-biden gatherings, yes, idiocy doesn't know politics. let's be honest with ourselves: if Pearl Jam were to decide to hold an indoor concert and said "just wear masks", that place would still sell out in an instant, and i can count on one hand how many people on this forum i know right now wouldn't go, but the rest? 
    Hell no, I wouldn't go but I would try to get tickets to help someone out. If that's even possible these days?
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,041
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    The two times I ve been tested I got results back within two days.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    mcgruff10 said:
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    The two times I ve been tested I got results back within two days.  
    Same here. The disparities in availability and results are ridiculous and dangerous. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,331
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    It's stupid. One of my employees waited 10 plus days. Felt symptomatic on a Wednesday, doctors appt. on Friday and test on the following Monday. I think he got tested at a clinic in Woodbury. Cleared the14 day quarantine before he got results. That's the longest I've heard.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,426
    tbergs said:
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    It's stupid. One of my employees waited 10 plus days. Felt symptomatic on a Wednesday, doctors appt. on Friday and test on the following Monday. I think he got tested at a clinic in Woodbury. Cleared the14 day quarantine before he got results. That's the longest I've heard.
    It is. As bad as it sounds, if I start feeling crumby again, I’ll probably avoid getting another test. Why bother if they can’t process the tests in a reasonable manner.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    i had my antibody blood test results in 3 business days.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    i had a meeting with an account today to discuss some big proposal.

    i went to my local office max to have my slideshow and proposals printed off and there was a guy at the door saying they need to close today and tomorrow, no reason given. i asked if someone had covid. he said "i am not at liberty to say, but yes, staff member tested positive and we just found out." they know me well there since i get copies made a few times per week. sucks for them. but sucked for me too as i was late to the meeting. 

    i should have had the copies done yesterday.

    i know most of the staff there, so hopefully they will be ok.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    mcgruff10 said:
    So here’s my experience with COVID testing..

    Started feeling shitty with a low grade fever last Tuesday morning. Called doctor same day. Two day wait to get a test. Got tested Thursday morning. Still waiting on test results. Its now been almost a week since the first symptom, and still no idea if I have the virus. Pretty ridiculous.

    Get tested, get tested.... So you can just sit in your house with the kids you pulled out of daycare/school for at least week and go nuts.

    Feeling fine the past two days...

    The two times I ve been tested I got results back within two days.  
    My girlfriend, an educator, went home early from school last Thursday feeling sick.
    8:30 Friday morning got the rapid test with an immediate negative result. But, when they found out she was an educator they gave her the nostril probe. She got that negative result yesterday and is back to work today.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    pfizer expects to have 50 million doses available by end of 2020 (so, that's 25 million people for a two dose vaccine) and 1.3 billion through 2021. pfizer says it will be free. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    pfizer expects to have 50 million doses available by end of 2020 (so, that's 25 million people for a two dose vaccine) and 1.3 billion through 2021. pfizer says it will be free. 
    kinda funny that pfizer were not part of operation warp speed, so dump does not get credit for this, haha
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    pfizer expects to have 50 million doses available by end of 2020 (so, that's 25 million people for a two dose vaccine) and 1.3 billion through 2021. pfizer says it will be free. 
    kinda funny that pfizer were not part of operation warp speed, so dump does not get credit for this, haha
    pence already tweeted credit to trump for it. 
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