All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
For DMB seat assignments have come weeks later with TICKETSTODAY (more shows = more weeks later), so matches with the 1/27 seat assignment date. I think this process is going to have other similarities to DMB's ticket process.
For DMB seat assignments have come weeks later with TICKETSTODAY (more shows = more weeks later), so matches with the 1/27 seat assignment date. I think this process is going to have other similarities to DMB's ticket process.
DMB is going to have some explaining to do if PJ can issue confirmation and the seat assignments.....
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
I am now just realizing I am a moron/moran for not putting Toronto reserved as #2 given I can just sell them if the seats suck. It is like a freeroll in poker.
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.
Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
Where did it show how many seats were being held? There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.
Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?
I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.
Columbus 6/24/03, Pittsburgh 9/28/05, Cleveland 5/20/06, Pittsburgh 6/23/06, Chicago 8/5/07, New York 6/24/08, New York 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield 6/28/08, Mansfield 6/30/08, EV D.C. 8/16/08, EV Chicago 8/22/08, EV Baltimore 6/14/09, Chicago 8/23/09, Philadelphia 10/27/09, Philadelphia 10/28/09, Philadelphia 10/30/09, Philadelphia 10/31/09, Columbus 5/6/10, Indianapolis 5/7/10, Cleveland 5/9/10, Buffalo 5/10/10, EV Detroit 6/26/11, Toronto 9/12/11, Hamilton 9/15/11, Pittsburgh 10/11/13, Buffalo 10/12/13, San Diego 11/21/13, Los Angeles 11/23/13, Los Angeles 11/24/13, Cincinnati 10/1/14, Detroit 10/16/14, New York 9/26/15, Greenville 4/16/16, Hampton 4/18/16, Columbia 4/21/16, Philadelphia 4/29/16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/22/16, Denver 9/22/22
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Then I wonder why the odds are 50% better this time? Presumably they didn't increase the square footage of the GA area (didn't look that way on the venue map anyway). Unlike the reserved tickets where it seems like they were able to negotiate for more seats for us, there should be pretty much the same number of GA tickets available this time as last time.
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.
Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?
I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.
Lots of people pressing "refresh" on their browsers as it comes closer to concert time to buy those!
or you can come to terms and realize you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah... makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.
Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?
I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.
It seems like it would not be rocket science to add a fan club waiting list to fill orders as people cancel their tickets.
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
GA is always TC only
Could be some non-10C this year with the fan exchange. I assume most wont be selling GA tix, but it is possible.
Not sure that they've cleared this up - if the F2F exchange will be allowed only for 10C members (who are looking to unload 10c seats/GA that were purchased) or not, or have they?
I believe it was mentioned by the Ticketmaster rep on the faithful forum that the F2F would be open to anyone. So there could be non 10C that get into GA through the exchange.
The tickets sold in the Verified Fan presale (other than NY and CO) will also be in the exchange, so clearly it won't be limited to just the fan club members. Unless they're setting up two separate exchanges, which I doubt.
All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
Where did it show how many seats were being held? There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.
Just looking at the blue areas you can get a gauge of roughly how many tickets were held based on venue capacity. Travel may be something that keeps more away, and I too always assumed that paid members would likely be in for multiple shows especially when you can hit so many places withing a reasonable distance in the northeast.
All these odds do is show me that there are not near as many paid members as people think. Since we were able to see how many tickets were held at each venue basic math can now be applied to find out roughly how many requests came in. Given the population in the northeast and only 2 shows you would think the odds would have been much worse for NY and Baltimore. Lets say they are holding 15k tickets for MSG (which is amazing), but if NY is at 57% odds that means roughly 26-27k ticket requests came in. Unless they have an odds system that is not factually based that is not that impressive given the insane population in that area and most members going for 2 tickets. I understand that putting in for only GA or only reserved skews the odds some, but not a crazy amount. What PJ did by securing more tickets was great because it gives members in those insane population density areas a much better shot and it doesn't matter where they play the public will grab up whats left in most cases. Win-win situation.
Where did it show how many seats were being held? There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.
I don’t think they ever said that entire sections were fully allocated for 10c. So MSG for example basically every section showed ticket availability, but I didn’t assume that meant every seat in those sections. Would be nice if that were the case though!
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I fell in love with that whole thing last year and am going back for warm weather, spring training baseball, and music.
It's an incredibly solid bang for the buck if you plan it right.
I think between credit card points and AirBnB I am spending like $1k for an entire week out there.
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 79/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I'm wondering how to compare the 9% odds here to the 2016 odds which were in the 6-7% range for two nights.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago)
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago)
There may be fewer paid members than we think, but what is probably more likely is more people skip the shows or only see them in their home town. Probably fewer travel and see more than 1 show that we (or maybe just me) sometimes assume.
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
2009: 8/23, 8/24 (Chicago) 2010: 5/9 (Cleveland) 2013 7/19 (Chicago) 2016: 4/9 (Miami), 5/1 (NYC), 8/20 & 8/22 (Chicago)
2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago)