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    Not sure when these were updated (how are you all seeing update time?), but here are current odds for the Canadian shows to maybe save someone bit of time scrolling:

    TOR 40/99
    OTT 75/99
    QC 99/99 (!!!)
    HAM 51/99

    Changed by picks 4 times....I'm done now.....the waiting begins.... : =)
    These didn't change this morning. Last I checked , the US odds hadn't changed either
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,973
    Of course there are reasonably priced hotel rooms in Quebec, too. I just don't know if chancing the weather is worth it. 
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    MozzyMozzy Posts: 154
    The odds updated around 8am PST yesterday 
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    MozzyMozzy Posts: 154
    PJNB said:
    MSG at 13/74. Do you think NYC Reserved as a 2nd choice will strike me out?
    what's your first choice?
    Buddy and I are thinking Baltimore GA as 1st choice. It’s the only show we have in common.  It’s at 19% atm... I’m just concerned I’ll strike out in both if I go Baltimore GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. 

    You do cities as priorities not sections for those cities. 
    So I'm sorry if I'm being slow. I guess I'm getting old.
    In the "old" system", I would have done
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- NYC Reserved
    3- Baltimore Reserved

    In this new system, if I were to put best available for both shows, it would look something like this:
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- Baltimore Reserved
    3- NYC GA
    4- NYC Reserved

    My concern is that if I put best available for Baltimore and don't get GA, I would get my "second choice" (by default) which is Baltimore Reserved. Let's say that someone has Quebec GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. Would he/she/they have better odds than me to get NYC reserved?

    I'm sorry if I'm making it more complicated than it is. Thank you. 
    No, it would be
    1. Baltimore Best Available
    2. NYC Best Available

    If you are selected, they will check to see if there are GA tickets left, if so you get them, otherwise you get Reserved
    I feel like you're both saying the same thing
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,928
    edited January 2020
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,954
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
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    LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 803
    JimmyV said:
    Of course there are reasonably priced hotel rooms in Quebec, too. I just don't know if chancing the weather is worth it. 
    I don't get the worry about the weather....could be bad, but can deal with it (and could be bad anywhere!). QC is beautiful in the winter and early spring. 
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    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
    Hamilton - '20, '22
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    SwordoSwordo Posts: 266
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,973
    JimmyV said:
    Of course there are reasonably priced hotel rooms in Quebec, too. I just don't know if chancing the weather is worth it. 
    I don't get the worry about the weather....could be bad, but can deal with it (and could be bad anywhere!). QC is beautiful in the winter and early spring. 
    It would be a long drive from Boston through snow. 
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    tdawetdawe Posts: 2,003
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,954
    JimmyV said:
    Of course there are reasonably priced hotel rooms in Quebec, too. I just don't know if chancing the weather is worth it. 
    I don't get the worry about the weather....could be bad, but can deal with it (and could be bad anywhere!). QC is beautiful in the winter and early spring. 
    This! 

    Quebec City gets an average of 18 inches of snow in March. That is nothing! And if by some chance there is a snowstorm slowdown and you will be ok. 
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    Mozzy said:
    PJNB said:
    MSG at 13/74. Do you think NYC Reserved as a 2nd choice will strike me out?
    what's your first choice?
    Buddy and I are thinking Baltimore GA as 1st choice. It’s the only show we have in common.  It’s at 19% atm... I’m just concerned I’ll strike out in both if I go Baltimore GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. 

    You do cities as priorities not sections for those cities. 
    So I'm sorry if I'm being slow. I guess I'm getting old.
    In the "old" system", I would have done
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- NYC Reserved
    3- Baltimore Reserved

    In this new system, if I were to put best available for both shows, it would look something like this:
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- Baltimore Reserved
    3- NYC GA
    4- NYC Reserved

    My concern is that if I put best available for Baltimore and don't get GA, I would get my "second choice" (by default) which is Baltimore Reserved. Let's say that someone has Quebec GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. Would he/she/they have better odds than me to get NYC reserved?

    I'm sorry if I'm making it more complicated than it is. Thank you. 
    No, it would be
    1. Baltimore Best Available
    2. NYC Best Available

    If you are selected, they will check to see if there are GA tickets left, if so you get them, otherwise you get Reserved
    I feel like you're both saying the same thing
    Can you elaborate please? 
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    Mozzy said:
    PJNB said:
    MSG at 13/74. Do you think NYC Reserved as a 2nd choice will strike me out?
    what's your first choice?
    Buddy and I are thinking Baltimore GA as 1st choice. It’s the only show we have in common.  It’s at 19% atm... I’m just concerned I’ll strike out in both if I go Baltimore GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. 

    You do cities as priorities not sections for those cities. 
    So I'm sorry if I'm being slow. I guess I'm getting old.
    In the "old" system", I would have done
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- NYC Reserved
    3- Baltimore Reserved

    In this new system, if I were to put best available for both shows, it would look something like this:
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- Baltimore Reserved
    3- NYC GA
    4- NYC Reserved

    My concern is that if I put best available for Baltimore and don't get GA, I would get my "second choice" (by default) which is Baltimore Reserved. Let's say that someone has Quebec GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. Would he/she/they have better odds than me to get NYC reserved?

    I'm sorry if I'm making it more complicated than it is. Thank you. 
    No, it would be
    1. Baltimore Best Available
    2. NYC Best Available

    If you are selected, they will check to see if there are GA tickets left, if so you get them, otherwise you get Reserved
    I feel like you're both saying the same thing
    No, he is implying NYC would be a priority 3, which is not the case. This is important for priority processing. 
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,954
    Mozzy said:
    PJNB said:
    MSG at 13/74. Do you think NYC Reserved as a 2nd choice will strike me out?
    what's your first choice?
    Buddy and I are thinking Baltimore GA as 1st choice. It’s the only show we have in common.  It’s at 19% atm... I’m just concerned I’ll strike out in both if I go Baltimore GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. 

    You do cities as priorities not sections for those cities. 
    So I'm sorry if I'm being slow. I guess I'm getting old.
    In the "old" system", I would have done
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- NYC Reserved
    3- Baltimore Reserved

    In this new system, if I were to put best available for both shows, it would look something like this:
    1- Baltimore GA
    2- Baltimore Reserved
    3- NYC GA
    4- NYC Reserved

    My concern is that if I put best available for Baltimore and don't get GA, I would get my "second choice" (by default) which is Baltimore Reserved. Let's say that someone has Quebec GA as option 1 and NYC Reserved option 2. Would he/she/they have better odds than me to get NYC reserved?

    I'm sorry if I'm making it more complicated than it is. Thank you. 
    No, it would be
    1. Baltimore Best Available
    2. NYC Best Available

    If you are selected, they will check to see if there are GA tickets left, if so you get them, otherwise you get Reserved
    I feel like you're both saying the same thing
    Can you elaborate please? 
    Newfie is saying it the right way. 
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,954

    I am just going to put the shows I want in a hat and let fate decide what order to put them. 
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    RenfieldRenfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    edited January 2020
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.


    “Email confirmations will be sent out on a show-by-show basis over the course of 4 days, beginning Thursday, January 16th.”

    Post edited by Renfield on
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    Christinaogle6Christinaogle6 Memphis Posts: 14
    I put GA only.....the odds are dropping. So, should I go back and change it to best avail? Help!!!
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    Jason7192Jason7192 Southern Indiana Posts: 311
    tdawe said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
    I read in one of the FAQs that confirms the drawing is going show-by-show, so it's logical to think they'd do that in chronological order of the tour dates and then notify everyone once all the entries for that show have been considered. The waiting is going to suck unless the odds remain at or near 99%.
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,954
    I put GA only.....the odds are dropping. So, should I go back and change it to best avail? Help!!!
    Only time you should put GA only imo is if you in no way want to win reserved since your number is so high and would rather fight it out in the public sale for seats. Putting best available does not hurt your GA odds. 
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    tdawetdawe Posts: 2,003
    Jason7192 said:
    tdawe said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
    I read in one of the FAQs that confirms the drawing is going show-by-show, so it's logical to think they'd do that in chronological order of the tour dates and then notify everyone once all the entries for that show have been considered. The waiting is going to suck unless the odds remain at or near 99%.
    Yes - we know they're drawing "show by show" (not sure what other way you would do it), but we're only guessing that (1) they'll be drawn in chrono order rather than some other order and (2) the drawings will be evenly distributed over the four days (maybe there will be more done Thursday and Friday than over the weekend, maybe they feel like they can do 5 per day so everything other than the last show will be done by Saturday, etc.). 

    And I can tell you from experience that the waiting sucks even when the odds are at or near 99%.
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    GR280729GR280729 Posts: 105
    I have reserved for Baltimore and NYC.  I put Baltimore as first because my wife can make that show and not NYC since it is a Monday.  Should I switch NYC to number 1 because of the odds?  

    My wife also has a Ten Club membership.  Should I put in for NYC in her membership as well?  I got stuck with 2 sets of tickets for Boston last tour when I did this.  While I eventually was able to sell the extra set, it was concerning for a while, so I don't want to be stuck with 4 tickets.  But it is NYC, so I should have an easier time selling the 2 extra on fan to fan if I get 4.

    Do you think I should switch to NYC as my first choice and also put in the extra membership request for NYC?  Or should I be fine with just one request (we want reserved, not GA - my wife likes having seats :) )
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    Christinaogle6Christinaogle6 Memphis Posts: 14
    Thank you
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    ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    tdawe said:
    Jason7192 said:
    tdawe said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
    I read in one of the FAQs that confirms the drawing is going show-by-show, so it's logical to think they'd do that in chronological order of the tour dates and then notify everyone once all the entries for that show have been considered. The waiting is going to suck unless the odds remain at or near 99%.
    Yes - we know they're drawing "show by show" (not sure what other way you would do it), but we're only guessing that (1) they'll be drawn in chrono order rather than some other order and (2) the drawings will be evenly distributed over the four days (maybe there will be more done Thursday and Friday than over the weekend, maybe they feel like they can do 5 per day so everything other than the last show will be done by Saturday, etc.). 

    And I can tell you from experience that the waiting sucks even when the odds are at or near 99%.
    "Not sure what other way you would do it"....
    I don't know how they're going to do it, but person-by-person would be more of a genuine lottery. 
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    Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 3,886
    Renfield said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.


    “Email confirmations will be sent out on a show-by-show basis over the course of 4 days, beginning Thursday, January 16th.”

    If I am reading this correctly, it would mean that you could possibly be notified before Sunday the 19th. I thought I had read somewhere that we would receive the notifications on Sunday. 
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    I'm in for Best Available in Baltimore and the latest odds were 19% GA and 85% Reserved.  Still crossing my fingers for a fall Ohio show!

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    ritg19ritg19 Posts: 111
    Is this right?  'GA only' requests are filled before 'best available' requests?  So they fill all of "GA only" requests, and then give remaining GA tickets, if available, to the "best available" folks...
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on....
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    tdawetdawe Posts: 2,003
    ecdanc said:
    tdawe said:
    Jason7192 said:
    tdawe said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
    I read in one of the FAQs that confirms the drawing is going show-by-show, so it's logical to think they'd do that in chronological order of the tour dates and then notify everyone once all the entries for that show have been considered. The waiting is going to suck unless the odds remain at or near 99%.
    Yes - we know they're drawing "show by show" (not sure what other way you would do it), but we're only guessing that (1) they'll be drawn in chrono order rather than some other order and (2) the drawings will be evenly distributed over the four days (maybe there will be more done Thursday and Friday than over the weekend, maybe they feel like they can do 5 per day so everything other than the last show will be done by Saturday, etc.). 

    And I can tell you from experience that the waiting sucks even when the odds are at or near 99%.
    "Not sure what other way you would do it"....
    I don't know how they're going to do it, but person-by-person would be more of a genuine lottery. 
    So they'd randomly select a person, give them everything they requested, then move on to the next person until the tickets are gone? Not sure how the "rank your show choices" system would work if you're NOT drawing show by show.
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    gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,468
    GR280729 said:
    I have reserved for Baltimore and NYC.  I put Baltimore as first because my wife can make that show and not NYC since it is a Monday.  Should I switch NYC to number 1 because of the odds?  

    My wife also has a Ten Club membership.  Should I put in for NYC in her membership as well?  I got stuck with 2 sets of tickets for Boston last tour when I did this.  While I eventually was able to sell the extra set, it was concerning for a while, so I don't want to be stuck with 4 tickets.  But it is NYC, so I should have an easier time selling the 2 extra on fan to fan if I get 4.

    Do you think I should switch to NYC as my first choice and also put in the extra membership request for NYC?  Or should I be fine with just one request (we want reserved, not GA - my wife likes having seats :) )
    If you have 2 members and are after the 2 most desired shows WHY NOT use her membership and both put in NY first for one and Balt first for the other person?? 
    This Fan to Fan sale would EASILY let you sell your pair of extras
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    ecdancecdanc Posts: 1,814
    tdawe said:
    ecdanc said:
    tdawe said:
    Jason7192 said:
    tdawe said:
    Swordo said:
    PJNB said:
    Has there been clarity around when we'll get results? I know it said by Sunday night.  But is it possible people start finding out tomorrow?  Or is just Sunday?
    Throughout the 4 days they said.
    My best guess is they will do it show-by-show, in order.
    That's my guess as well, and if that's right and they're evenly distributed, it will go:

    Thursday: Canadian shows
    Friday: Northeast shows, Nashville & St. Louis
    Saturday: OKC, Denver, Phoenix, SD
    Sunday: Remaining CA shows
    I read in one of the FAQs that confirms the drawing is going show-by-show, so it's logical to think they'd do that in chronological order of the tour dates and then notify everyone once all the entries for that show have been considered. The waiting is going to suck unless the odds remain at or near 99%.
    Yes - we know they're drawing "show by show" (not sure what other way you would do it), but we're only guessing that (1) they'll be drawn in chrono order rather than some other order and (2) the drawings will be evenly distributed over the four days (maybe there will be more done Thursday and Friday than over the weekend, maybe they feel like they can do 5 per day so everything other than the last show will be done by Saturday, etc.). 

    And I can tell you from experience that the waiting sucks even when the odds are at or near 99%.
    "Not sure what other way you would do it"....
    I don't know how they're going to do it, but person-by-person would be more of a genuine lottery. 
    So they'd randomly select a person, give them everything they requested, then move on to the next person until the tickets are gone? Not sure how the "rank your show choices" system would work if you're NOT drawing show by show.
    No, they'd randomly select a person and give them whatever their top priority still available is. They're then kicked to the back of the line until everyone has received one set of tickets. 
    Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems the simplest algorithm. It's basically drawing all the numbers, putting them on a list, then going through the list top to bottom (repeatedly) until all the tickets are exhausted or all the orders are filled. 
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