Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
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EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
I would say a week or two out if the weather is cooperating people will make plans to hit those shows.
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
I'm sure the 15-hour Greyhound ride from Newark to Ottawa (for only about $50 each way!) would be fun.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
That's why I do all my travel homework regarding if flights are doable, affordable, or a royal headache prior to taking my shot at tix whether it be PJ or any band. Depending on where one lives some cities just will not work. Once I have my game plan set in place, I then set up refundable rooms on Booking.com. For St. Louis I had four reservations initially with a combo of dates pending on when I may want to arrive or leave. If the show was just a rumor and it never happened...I cancel.
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
That's why I do all my travel homework regarding if flights are doable, affordable, or a royal headache prior to taking my shot at tix whether it be PJ or any band. Depending on where one lives some cities just will not work. Once I have my game plan set in place, I then set up refundable rooms on Booking.com. For St. Louis I had four reservations initially with a combo of dates pending on when I may want to arrive or leave. If the show was just a rumor and it never happened...I cancel.
Same here. An 8 hour drive isn’t terrible. If the flights drop I ll fly.
I am curious if and when they do a fall how Ohana is going to split it up. Are they going to tour before or/and after? And how is Global citizen going to happen the same week as Ohana?
I am curious if and when they do a fall how Ohana is going to split it up. Are they going to tour before or/and after? And how is Global citizen going to happen the same week as Ohana?
I would guess the fall tour will start after Ohana . Maybe mid October, similar to 2013.
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I am curious if and when they do a fall how Ohana is going to split it up. Are they going to tour before or/and after? And how is Global citizen going to happen the same week as Ohana?
I would guess the fall tour will start after Ohana . Maybe mid October, similar to 2013.
Probably but also wonder if they are going to try and fit it all in before the election too.
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
That's why I do all my travel homework regarding if flights are doable, affordable, or a royal headache prior to taking my shot at tix whether it be PJ or any band. Depending on where one lives some cities just will not work. Once I have my game plan set in place, I then set up refundable rooms on Booking.com. For St. Louis I had four reservations initially with a combo of dates pending on when I may want to arrive or leave. If the show was just a rumor and it never happened...I cancel.
Same here. An 8 hour drive isn’t terrible. If the flights drop I ll fly.
Same. I could also do one way with a rental I guess? 16 hours to OKC - I can break it up by staying with a family member in Nashville or a night at a motel. Baltimore was going to be a 6 hour drive. No Philly show shot the demand through the roof. 8 in a day is my max. I'm making an exception for PJ. It's been 7 years since I've seen them & I'm up for an adventure.
That's why I hope NC gets a date or 2 in the Fall. Where I live it's only a 2 hour drive as opposed to 4 hours at any of the VA venues.
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
I am curious if and when they do a fall how Ohana is going to split it up. Are they going to tour before or/and after? And how is Global citizen going to happen the same week as Ohana?
I would guess the fall tour will start after Ohana . Maybe mid October, similar to 2013.
Why? You know there's a good chance Ed wont be there this year. He's already confirmed at Global Citizens in NY that same Saturday. Doubt he flies cross country the next day just to perform a 30-40 minute set.
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Not looking to drive 18 hours round trip. Does not fit in with life responsibilities. Flights to Quebec are running $450 and up. Nothing direct from NYC, have to fly from Jersey. Add hotel, cabs and incidentals I might as well pay $1000 on stub hub.
this is not “nyc entitlement” as @ecdanc notes above. Just make an attempt to line up supply with demand. Or don’t and either play in front of some empty seats while 50,000 are chasing Ticketmaster’s running man or the silly expectation ”fans shouldn’t scalp but instead pay hundreds and hundreds to travel.”
Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
That's why I do all my travel homework regarding if flights are doable, affordable, or a royal headache prior to taking my shot at tix whether it be PJ or any band. Depending on where one lives some cities just will not work. Once I have my game plan set in place, I then set up refundable rooms on Booking.com. For St. Louis I had four reservations initially with a combo of dates pending on when I may want to arrive or leave. If the show was just a rumor and it never happened...I cancel.
Same here. An 8 hour drive isn’t terrible. If the flights drop I ll fly.
I drive 10 hours to golf in Myrtle every fall, it’s not bad at all. Especially with someone else with you
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Apologies for the bickering. At this point, I'm more annoyed by the bad geography than I am by the New York entitlement. I mean, you can't just treat Los Angeles and the Bay Area as some homogenous "west"--they're almost 400 miles apart. If they're the same area, then New York's area stretches into Quebec, Ontario, North Carolina, and Ohio!
NYC folks can get to Ottawa and/or Quebec City quite easily. Plenty of seats available and US dollar has a very good exchange rate into Canadian.
Yeah an eight hour ride is easy lol.
I can't speak for the other poster, but I was thinking more of the direct flights. Eight hours...yeah, it's doable, but that's pretty hairy in March.
Direct flights out of Newark aren’t cheap. Over $400 per person.
Ouch. Is that Ottawa and/or QC?
Quebec City. No direct flights from Philly. I hate United, sondamn expensive. So as of now I ll be driving from jersey to Quebec City.
That's why I do all my travel homework regarding if flights are doable, affordable, or a royal headache prior to taking my shot at tix whether it be PJ or any band. Depending on where one lives some cities just will not work. Once I have my game plan set in place, I then set up refundable rooms on Booking.com. For St. Louis I had four reservations initially with a combo of dates pending on when I may want to arrive or leave. If the show was just a rumor and it never happened...I cancel.
Same here. An 8 hour drive isn’t terrible. If the flights drop I ll fly.
I drive 10 hours to golf in Myrtle every fall, it’s not bad at all. Especially with someone else with you
Good to know. Just my wife and I...did I mention no kids?!?! Lol
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here. An 8 hour drive isn’t terrible. If the flights drop I ll fly.
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2024.....????
That's why I hope NC gets a date or 2 in the Fall. Where I live it's only a 2 hour drive as opposed to 4 hours at any of the VA venues.
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this is not “nyc entitlement” as @ecdanc notes above. Just make an attempt to line up supply with demand. Or don’t and either play in front of some empty seats while 50,000 are chasing Ticketmaster’s running man or the silly expectation ”fans shouldn’t scalp but instead pay hundreds and hundreds to travel.”
No rear stage seats and big enough to get everyone in.
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