When you select both GA and Reserved it automatically selects best available for you too. There is no strategy anymore for picks. This is a bummer imo.
In exchange for all the upgrades (single tickets, ticket exchange, knowing where you are sitting before the show, and most importantly....much higher win %'s) this is a small price to pay.
I'm sure people that won Res that want GA and visa versa will figure out ways to swap their seats beforehand.
'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'
Are we to assume that if you don't get GA you are basically guaranteed a seat at MSG/Baltimore?
That alone makes the 10C INCREDIBLY valuable going forward if this new model is how they are gonna distribute the tickets going forward.
(People will still bitch)
The announcement seems to indicate that, but I am skeptical.
Why would that be the assumption?
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
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Are we to assume that if you don't get GA you are basically guaranteed a seat at MSG/Baltimore?
That alone makes the 10C INCREDIBLY valuable going forward if this new model is how they are gonna distribute the tickets going forward.
(People will still bitch)
If 10C got, let's say, 10,000 seats in Baltimore (5,000 pairs), and more than 5,000 requests are submitted, then it isn't guaranteed. I assume the comment in the e-mail is based on past request volumes, but if demand is thru the roof this year...
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Are we to assume that if you don't get GA you are basically guaranteed a seat at MSG/Baltimore?
That alone makes the 10C INCREDIBLY valuable going forward if this new model is how they are gonna distribute the tickets going forward.
(People will still bitch)
The announcement seems to indicate that, but I am skeptical.
Amazed no Raleigh (between baltimore and nashville geographically) after their cancellation show.
Is the bathroom law still in place that prompted the cancellation in the first place? If so, it may be a long time in NC before another show...
No, its not (not that it should matter).
I think it matters for the band and what they personally believe in and that's why they used their platform to speak out against it.
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Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
I think this confused me more lol. Let us know what they say in response to your follow up please!
Oh, if I knew where it was I would take you there...
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Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.
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Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
This is the only negative I see with this new system. Kinda sucks for people that really love/hate GA, but it is what it is.
Again, I'm sure people will figure out ways to swap with each other. It's just a 1:1 trade. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
Just walk in with each other and swap phones if you need to until the GA person gets their wrist band. The other pair just go to where the seats are. Done and done.
'I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine.'
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
This is the only negative I see with this new system. Kinda sucks for people that really love/hate GA, but it is what it is.
Again, I'm sure people will figure out ways to swap with each other. It's just a 1:1 trade. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
Just walk in with each other and swap phones if you need to until the GA person gets their wrist band. The other pair just go to where the seats are. Done and done.
If you hate GA you shouldn't put in for it. There is no chance that someone who puts in for Best Available, gets drawn and the only thing left is GA
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I'm a little concerned about the sentence AFTER the one you bolded
I know what your thinking I thought the same thing ...
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.
i'm guessing all the seat assignments will be done after the drawing is done.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
thanks for this. So that as a strategy has gone out the window. If you want in the show, you choose best available, otherwise you only get tickets if that type of ticket is still available when your name is drawn. right?
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.
They didn't say they would be assigning seats as selected, just that you would be guaranteed them. Chances are lottery happens, then seats are then assigned by seniority
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
thanks for this. So that as a strategy has gone out the window. If you want in the show, you choose best available, otherwise you only get tickets if that type of ticket is still available when your name is drawn. right?
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.
They will still do seniority when they assign seats I believe.
Sounds like they will randomly select entries, if you just selected GA you will get tickets if GA is still availble, if not you get shut out. If you selected best available you will get tickets as long as either GA or reserved are available. People will be notified if they got seats by Sunday .
Seat locations will he sent later, which makes me think they will go back through all of the winning entries and determine seat locations based on seniority at this time
I could be wrong, but this sure sounds like the process
Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.
I assume they pool all reserved ticket winners and then choose seats based on their seniority- you will find out if you got tickets by this Sunday, but don't find out where until later this month. That gives the system a few weeks to figure out who sits where.
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)
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I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)
Doesn't sound like it
Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.
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I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)
Doesn't sound like it
Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.
Did you read the response I got from TC Ticketmaster?
If you want to get in the building and want reserved and not GA do not pick GA or best available. It does not help your odds out at all and only hurts people that want GA's odds.
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.
I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)
Doesn't sound like it
Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.
I think its pretty clear. It has no bearing on what your choice is. It goes by name. If your name is chosen, they go into your choice, and if it's available you get it and if its not, you don't.
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I'm sure people that won Res that want GA and visa versa will figure out ways to swap their seats beforehand.
I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.
(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)
GA. For reserved seats all are @ 99%.
A. There will be basically no seats left for either of the other sales.
B. The building is going to be absolutely ROCKING if it's all 10C.
That show is gonna be fucking insane.
Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.
Email text below
Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.
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Again, I'm sure people will figure out ways to swap with each other. It's just a 1:1 trade. Shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
Just walk in with each other and swap phones if you need to until the GA person gets their wrist band. The other pair just go to where the seats are. Done and done.
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Example: I get drawn for a GA pair in Baltimore. Can I buy another GA pair on the exchange?
They didn't say they would be assigning seats as selected, just that you would be guaranteed them. Chances are lottery happens, then seats are then assigned by seniority
Sounds like they will randomly select entries, if you just selected GA you will get tickets if GA is still availble, if not you get shut out. If you selected best available you will get tickets as long as either GA or reserved are available. People will be notified if they got seats by Sunday .
Seat locations will he sent later, which makes me think they will go back through all of the winning entries and determine seat locations based on seniority at this time
I could be wrong, but this sure sounds like the process
Doesn't sound like it