2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

mfc2006

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

mcgruff10

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

Sarava

mcgruff10 said:

Saint Louis didn’t sell out in 2014 and I believe it was a weekend show with no Chicago show. 

It was a Friday night. And Chicago had two closer shows coming up in Moline and Milwaukee. I didn't realize that didn't sell out, though. It was virtually sold out then. The place was packed. I bought my seats for that show from stubhub, since I lost the lottery and I didn't find anything from ticketmaster.

Sarava

If there's only 3 or 4 shows in the USA east of St. Louis - I think they're all going to be brutal tickets to get. St. Louis might be one of the worst with it being a Saturday night.

MUZIK

herogroundzero said:

SALLYROO said:

Here's the link (26:55 min mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BN_Tyl8c00&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1CPNh-MkoI9DOMDYwf8tY_HsSHDDCtq3rhalm_8Q-VY7_neTiX584VHYY

Fucking awesome!! Phish really having phun still !!! WOW

I want to play the off topic game as well 

@Rubysdad we’ve been asking something like this for yearsss.

please take note

mfc2006

mcgruff10 said:

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

I'm a bit biased, but I think so. STL is a great city, though and we always have fun when we go there. It's primarily my wife's schedule that has me rethinking STL over OKC. 

OceansJenny

Lost In Ohio said:

D-Rod said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

Saint Louis didn’t sell out in 2014 and I believe it was a weekend show with no Chicago show. 

Quebec City, Hamilton, and of course Toronto will sell out with ease. Ottawa was close in 2016. I bet with a new album it might this go around. 

Hamilton sold out in 2011 but they didn’t sell seats behind the stage.  All depends on what you consider a sell out.  

    

If TicketMaster (or whoever the original seller is) runs out of tickets, it's sold out. This includes "day of" drops. If TM resale tickets are available, it's not sold out.

If certain sections aren't made available for sale, they don't count.

Wasn’t there a tour where they pulled sales for certain sections and put black tarps over them due to low sales? Asia ‘03 (or ‘00)?

JojoRice

Im 3.5 hours from Nashville and 7 hours from St Louis. Looking forward to a PJ road trip!

OceansJenny

Lerxst1992 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mcgruff10 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

mcgruff10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Saying that, let's also agree if no announcement this week that would be the shortest notice of a tour in a long time.

Some of the rumored cities are not lock down sell outs, based on history. Not that I dont think this tour wont 100% sell out. It should.

Since the promoter would be shelling out close to $10 million up front to PJ (or on the hook for it), it's in Live Nations best interests to get the announcement and presales rolling and promoted asap if this is indeed real. Somebody please cue the DimiBatSignal.

What shows don’t sell out?
i m thinking Ottawa, Nashville, St. Louis , ok city, and one night in la

Any Saturday show will sell out

No way an LA show doesn't sell out

Neither la show in 2013 sold out.  

As a Brooklyner, I could stare at this comment for decades and not understand.

In Brooklyn one needs to secure a Home Equity Line of Credit to secure a ticket if he or she does not win the lottery.

Brooklyn  is way overdue for a residency.

Not sold out? How is that possible?

Not enough tickets were sold.

Impossible. They can sell out 20 dates in Brooklyn.

Not back to back. Maybe one show a month ala Billy Joel style.

RoleModelsinBlood31

MUZIK said:

herogroundzero said:

SALLYROO said:

Here's the link (26:55 min mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BN_Tyl8c00&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1CPNh-MkoI9DOMDYwf8tY_HsSHDDCtq3rhalm_8Q-VY7_neTiX584VHYY

Fucking awesome!! Phish really having phun still !!! WOW

I want to play the off topic game as well 

@Rubysdad we’ve been asking something like this for yearsss.

please take note

Would have loved to been there.  Seen them over 50 times and never on nye

Lost In Ohio

OceansJenny said:

Lost In Ohio said:

D-Rod said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

Saint Louis didn’t sell out in 2014 and I believe it was a weekend show with no Chicago show. 

Quebec City, Hamilton, and of course Toronto will sell out with ease. Ottawa was close in 2016. I bet with a new album it might this go around. 

Hamilton sold out in 2011 but they didn’t sell seats behind the stage.  All depends on what you consider a sell out.  

    

If TicketMaster (or whoever the original seller is) runs out of tickets, it's sold out. This includes "day of" drops. If TM resale tickets are available, it's not sold out.

If certain sections aren't made available for sale, they don't count.

Wasn’t there a tour where they pulled sales for certain sections and put black tarps over them due to low sales? Asia ‘03 (or ‘00)?

They didn't do Japan in 2000, so it must have been 2003...this would also explain why they haven't been back. I've also heard that the crowd sat and generally wasn't too pumped.

presentents

mcgruff10 said:

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

I am not Matt but I do live in KC and although biased KC has WAY more to offer then STL and a much easier travel situation. We have NO traffic, like ever, we do have I-29,35,70,49, so getting here is pretty straight forward from everywhere. We have one of the best museums in the country and it’s FREE, we have a light rail that connects a large chuck of the downtown area and it’s FREE, we have the Power and Light district (bar zone) which is located right next to the hotel zone, and Westport (better bar zone) which is a 7 minute Uber from P&L and a 5 minute Uber from the Country Club Plaza (amazing Spanish architecture and great restaurants, the Christmas song Kansas City Lights was written about it), plus we have some of the best restaurants in the Midwest and that’s not to even begin about the BBQ). Oh and if Jazz and Baseball are your thing we have the 18th and Vine district with the Negro League Baseball Museum connected to the Jazz Museum (it’s the Hall of Fame of both Jazz and the Negro leagues). Every night you can find music from jazz at the Green Lady Lounge, to rock bands of all types, or a EDM show being thrown in a warehouse in the West Bottoms. All of which is less then 10 minutes apart from each other and virtually all of it has plenty of FREE parking. Stay in STL and have fun in the burbs and enjoy the Applebee’s if that’s your jam. 

DEGBTI

Sarava said:

mcgruff10 said:

Saint Louis didn’t sell out in 2014 and I believe it was a weekend show with no Chicago show. 

It was a Friday night. And Chicago had two closer shows coming up in Moline and Milwaukee. I didn't realize that didn't sell out, though. It was virtually sold out then. The place was packed. I bought my seats for that show from stubhub, since I lost the lottery and I didn't find anything from ticketmaster.

St Louis was my first ever PJ show. Flew there from san diego. I remember it as looking very sold out! Had to get tickets off stub hub too

Lerxst1992

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OceansJenny said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mcgruff10 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

mcgruff10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Saying that, let's also agree if no announcement this week that would be the shortest notice of a tour in a long time.

Some of the rumored cities are not lock down sell outs, based on history. Not that I dont think this tour wont 100% sell out. It should.

Since the promoter would be shelling out close to $10 million up front to PJ (or on the hook for it), it's in Live Nations best interests to get the announcement and presales rolling and promoted asap if this is indeed real. Somebody please cue the DimiBatSignal.

What shows don’t sell out?
i m thinking Ottawa, Nashville, St. Louis , ok city, and one night in la

Any Saturday show will sell out

No way an LA show doesn't sell out

Neither la show in 2013 sold out.  

As a Brooklyner, I could stare at this comment for decades and not understand.

In Brooklyn one needs to secure a Home Equity Line of Credit to secure a ticket if he or she does not win the lottery.

Brooklyn  is way overdue for a residency.

Not sold out? How is that possible?

Not enough tickets were sold.

Impossible. They can sell out 20 dates in Brooklyn.

Not back to back. Maybe one show a month ala Billy Joel style.

I should have taken a screen shot of stub hub 2016 as my memory isn’t what it used to be. Rear stage lowers for MSG Pearl Jam was going for $250 -  300 on stub hub IIRC and lowers in front of stage were $500 and up. Way up.

Billy never commanded prices like that, especially back then when he first started his monthly gigs there. Now he commands more as it’s become a tourist destination show. I could always snag a Billy ticket back before his monthly gigs started. The toughest ticket I’ve ever faced is PJ in NY. Nothing comes close.

the reality is IMO PJ has never fully tapped the market here. Whether they book 2 or 3 shows in the City, it immediately sells out every time. We’ll never know how many they can do until they try. They’d rather travel , load and unload the gear nightly and see different fans from around the world.

mfc2006

presentents said:

mcgruff10 said:

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

I am not Matt but I do live in KC and although biased KC has WAY more to offer then STL and a much easier travel situation. We have NO traffic, like ever, we do have I-29,35,70,49, so getting here is pretty straight forward from everywhere. We have one of the best museums in the country and it’s FREE, we have a light rail that connects a large chuck of the downtown area and it’s FREE, we have the Power and Light district (bar zone) which is located right next to the hotel zone, and Westport (better bar zone) which is a 7 minute Uber from P&L and a 5 minute Uber from the Country Club Plaza (amazing Spanish architecture and great restaurants, the Christmas song Kansas City Lights was written about it), plus we have some of the best restaurants in the Midwest and that’s not to even begin about the BBQ). Oh and if Jazz and Baseball are your thing we have the 18th and Vine district with the Negro League Baseball Museum connected to the Jazz Museum (it’s the Hall of Fame of both Jazz and the Negro leagues). Every night you can find music from jazz at the Green Lady Lounge, to rock bands of all types, or a EDM show being thrown in a warehouse in the West Bottoms. All of which is less then 10 minutes apart from each other and virtually all of it has plenty of FREE parking. Stay in STL and have fun in the burbs and enjoy the Applebee’s if that’s your jam. 

That’s pretty spot on. I go to STL for concerts and if/when the Astros play the Cardinals.

mcgruff10

mfc2006 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

I'm a bit biased, but I think so. STL is a great city, though and we always have fun when we go there. It's primarily my wife's schedule that has me rethinking STL over OKC. 

Sweet. Always wanted to see a royals game and eat some killer kc bbq.  

mcgruff10

OceansJenny said:

Lost In Ohio said:

D-Rod said:

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

Saint Louis didn’t sell out in 2014 and I believe it was a weekend show with no Chicago show. 

Quebec City, Hamilton, and of course Toronto will sell out with ease. Ottawa was close in 2016. I bet with a new album it might this go around. 

Hamilton sold out in 2011 but they didn’t sell seats behind the stage.  All depends on what you consider a sell out.  

    

If TicketMaster (or whoever the original seller is) runs out of tickets, it's sold out. This includes "day of" drops. If TM resale tickets are available, it's not sold out.

If certain sections aren't made available for sale, they don't count.

Wasn’t there a tour where they pulled sales for certain sections and put black tarps over them due to low sales? Asia ‘03 (or ‘00)?

‘03 (Hershey) and 2010 (Cleveland) definitely had tarps up due to low sales. 

smiths24

Hey late to this forum thread; I've been focused on euro tour mostly. So sorry if this is one of those annoying questions, but here goes: how probable is the 3.28 Baltimore show? That would be the only one we could even try to go for in US unless they come back around after euro, which is very unlikely. Thanks. 

PJNB

smiths24 said:

Hey late to this forum thread; I've been focused on euro tour mostly. So sorry if this is one of those annoying questions, but here goes: how probable is the 3.28 Baltimore show? That would be the only one we could even try to go for in US unless they come back around after euro, which is very unlikely. Thanks. 

Fall tour is rumoured as well though nothing solid. Baltimore is a lock I would say. Dimi hinted multiple times about Baltimore as well as a Saturday show. 

jayhawk1912

presentents said:

mcgruff10 said:

mfc2006 said:

Now we're rethinking STL. If OKC happens, that's about the same distance from KC & it would be a cheaper trip because we'd get a place with friends. Hmmm. Once it's official, we'll need to make a choice pretty quickly.

Matt, would you say kc is nicer than St. Louis? 

I am not Matt but I do live in KC and although biased KC has WAY more to offer then STL and a much easier travel situation. We have NO traffic, like ever, we do have I-29,35,70,49, so getting here is pretty straight forward from everywhere. We have one of the best museums in the country and it’s FREE, we have a light rail that connects a large chuck of the downtown area and it’s FREE, we have the Power and Light district (bar zone) which is located right next to the hotel zone, and Westport (better bar zone) which is a 7 minute Uber from P&L and a 5 minute Uber from the Country Club Plaza (amazing Spanish architecture and great restaurants, the Christmas song Kansas City Lights was written about it), plus we have some of the best restaurants in the Midwest and that’s not to even begin about the BBQ). Oh and if Jazz and Baseball are your thing we have the 18th and Vine district with the Negro League Baseball Museum connected to the Jazz Museum (it’s the Hall of Fame of both Jazz and the Negro leagues). Every night you can find music from jazz at the Green Lady Lounge, to rock bands of all types, or a EDM show being thrown in a warehouse in the West Bottoms. All of which is less then 10 minutes apart from each other and virtually all of it has plenty of FREE parking. Stay in STL and have fun in the burbs and enjoy the Applebee’s if that’s your jam. 

yes to all of the above plus the best football team (hoping this comment ages well after Sunday)....fingers crossed KC makes the Fall tour list