The Democratic Presidential Debates

mrussel1

JW269453 said:

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mickeyrat said:

I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?

I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 

Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

How are these numbers possible when there are only 538 votes?

Lerxst1992

JW269453 said:

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mickeyrat said:

I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?

I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 

One party believes in making multi millionaires billionaires. The other party wants to help people, workers and create a better safety net, but that party is trapped in a system requiring billions to finance campaigns. So they also need the billionaires, which makes them look like the other party.

The only way to change this is if the millions who don’t vote understand this basic outline of our political process, so we can change the constitution to remove big money from elections. But the party of billionaires obfuscates just enough to make the party of the people look more like the billionaire party.

nicknyr15

dankind said:

Amazing 

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

How are these numbers possible when there are only 538 votes?

Good point

FiveBelow

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mickeyrat said:

I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?

I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 

Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?

I was simply putting emphasis on the words our and us. Our being supporters of a particular party and us being all citizens. The same Congress made up of members from the 2 parties that can’t seem to work together very effectively? That is my issue. I said I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion on the matter. I was not implying that you didn’t think I had the right not to vote. Would you call out a fan who didn’t agree with a call made during a sporting event because they aren’t the ones playing? I don’t have a problem communicating with people who have a different viewpoint, if mine is not welcome just let me know and there will be no hard feelings.

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

What's wrong with this interview?  You've never been on a conference call and people keep talking and pausing at the same time?  

...ok ... sure...

ok...so got...nothing?

I happen to believe you got my post and what was "wrong" with the interview, but are just a bit wee too much into the Biden defense force (in here) to let lose, and I don't feel the need to fall into a:

https://youtu.be/5NV-JjlIls4

Spiritual_Chaos

dankind said:

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out

Tara Reade has been trying to tell her story since it happened in 1993, when she was working as a staff assistant for Joe Biden. She told part of her story-- about how Biden would put his hands on her shoulders and run his fingers up and down her neck-- in the spring of 2019 after Lucy Flores accused Biden of kissing the top of her head and smelling her hair inappropriately. But Reade didn't tell her full story. As Ryan Grim reveals at The Intercept, Reade asked for help from Time's Up, but the organization said it could not support her because a case taking on Biden would jeopardize their non-profit status. Tara is finally telling the story she's been trying to tell for decades. While there were no witnesses to Biden's alleged sexual assault of Tara Reade, her brother and close friend, both of whom I've spoken to, recall Reade telling them about it at the time

Description of the sexual assault (not kissing children, or massaging from behind -- but SEXUAL ASSAULT by Joe Biden):

https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

Sounds like Joe Biden felt he had the right to - grab women, by the pussy?

Spiritual_Chaos

The US could have had this goodhearted fighter and truthspeaker:

https://twitter.com/handleyzo/status/1242985531119632385?s=20

(Have this on in the background while watching: https://youtu.be/DhlPAj38rHc)

Lerxst1992

JW269453 said:

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mrussel1 said:

JW269453 said:

mickeyrat said:

I stand in the green, but it should be labeled "when you two idiots figure it out, we will be ready"

How does anyone that doesn't vote have a reasonable right to complain about something?  Who is the perfect candidate that you are awaiting?  Is it Jesus, Ghandi or someone with whom you agree with 100% of the time?

I was under the impression that it is my right to vote if I choose, I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion. Until I see the win at all cost for “our” side mentality stop, I find it hard to believe either side has “us” in their best interests. I’m sorry, but I think we are better than having a system that caters to only half of the people. Not that extreme if you think about it. I wish I had the answer on how to achieve this, but putting those in charge to the task would be a good start. 

Were you replying to my post?  Because I don't understand where the "us" is coming from.  
And are you part of the 50% that are or aren't represented by Congress?

Last,  nowhere did I say you didn't have the right not to vote.  I said what reasonable right do you have to complain when you don't participate in the process?

I was simply putting emphasis on the words our and us. Our being supporters of a particular party and us being all citizens. The same Congress made up of members from the 2 parties that can’t seem to work together very effectively? That is my issue. I said I didn’t know that exercising my right voided me of having an opinion on the matter. I was not implying that you didn’t think I had the right not to vote. Would you call out a fan who didn’t agree with a call made during a sporting event because they aren’t the ones playing? I don’t have a problem communicating with people who have a different viewpoint, if mine is not welcome just let me know and there will be no hard feelings.

One party’s fundamental mantra is to maximize the wealth of billionaires. To put economy ahead of lives. To make unrealistic claims and not believe in science.

How exactly is the other party supposed to work with that? Why should they concede fundamentally on what is beneficial for the public?

Should you be expected to “work together effectively” if the other side is extreme. Let’s say terrorists as an example.

Scientists are telling republicans we are 30 to 45 days from peak infection rate. Trumps very own ID specialist said at his very own press briefing we need to prepare for this to be a seasonal crisis. Republicans respond by saying we want to be open for business by Easter. How is that not terrorism?

darwinstheory

I read an article on CNN suggesting that trump is more popular now than at any point in his presidency. In it, they suggest that his handling of this pandemic has him gaining ground in the polls. It mentions that a majority of Americans think he is doing a good job.

What in the actual fuck is going on here?!?! How???

F Me In The Brain

Well, it makes no sense to smart people.  
You are posting on a fan club page for an ultra liberal rock band.
It is surprising there is any sort of push back on Trump bashing, here.

We are getting closer to election and those who voted for him are unlikely to change their minds unless he does something "crazy" like disavow their Lord and savior.  Beyond that, he can do as little or as much as he likes and they are voting for him anyway.  They may feel ok to get pissed at his idiocy on display, but when the chips are down they will stand up for their idiot in Chief

They likely all are Notre Dame fans - touchdown Trump, and all....

Spiritual_Chaos

mickeyrat

who was the sampling demographic?

what was asked.

how was it framed

etc

etc

etc

darwinstheory

F Me In The Brain said:

Well, it makes no sense to smart people.  
You are posting on a fan club page for an ultra liberal rock band.
It is surprising there is any sort of push back on Trump bashing, here.

We are getting closer to election and those who voted for him are unlikely to change their minds unless he does something "crazy" like disavow their Lord and savior.  Beyond that, he can do as little or as much as he likes and they are voting for him anyway.  They may feel ok to get pissed at his idiocy on display, but when the chips are down they will stand up for their idiot in Chief

They likely all are Notre Dame fans - touchdown Trump, and all....

Disavow their lord and savior? I think, for many, he is their lord and savior.

And how dare you smear the beloved Irish (though most are likely to be trumpers). Remember: Clay Helton loves you.

F Me In The Brain

Clay Helton for sure worships Satan.  That is the only way he keeps his job.

CM189191

did bernie drop out yet?

bernie needs to drop out

cincybearcat

CM189191 said:

did bernie drop out yet?

bernie needs to drop out

The voters already removed him from the race.  The fact that he doesn;t see this and continues his nonsense is one of the personality traits that makes Bernie who he is...and what we do not need.

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

did bernie drop out yet?

bernie needs to drop out

Biden needs to drop out.

Tara Reade has been trying to tell her story since it happened in 1993, when she was working as a staff assistant for Joe Biden. She told part of her story-- about how Biden would put his hands on her shoulders and run his fingers up and down her neck-- in the spring of 2019 after Lucy Flores accused Biden of kissing the top of her head and smelling her hair inappropriately. But Reade didn't tell her full story. As Ryan Grim reveals at The Intercept, Reade asked for help from Time's Up, but the organization said it could not support her because a case taking on Biden would jeopardize their non-profit status. Tara is finally telling the story she's been trying to tell for decades. While there were no witnesses to Biden's alleged sexual assault of Tara Reade, her brother and close friend, both of whom I've spoken to, recall Reade telling them about it at the time

Description of the sexual assault (not kissing children, or massaging from behind -- but SEXUAL ASSAULT by Joe Biden):

https://soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

Sounds like Joe Biden felt he had the right to - grab women, by the pussy?