The Democratic Presidential Debates

CM189191

Trump: willing to ignore boomers in the name of progress

Bernie: willing to ignore boomers in the name of progress

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dignin

Oops, guess I will just share this again from CM.

Fuck you Trump!

josevolution

dignin said:

Oops, guess I will just share this again from CM.

Fuck you Trump!

Typical smug face of an asshole! 

benjs

myoung321 said:

Come-on........ You're obviously smart enough know that "Corporate Democrat" doesn't mean a democrat that works for a corporation.. 
I worked for one of the largest Oil & Gas Corporations in the world for 30 years..  so what?  I have always been liberal... always considered myself a democrat.  I just want the party to be more progressive. 

I'm for Medicare for All... Why shouldn't everyone get the care I could get working for a big company? Biden is against it.. I cannot support him unless there is no other option left.... and here we find ourself back in the loop......... ::shrug::: 

  

 

Biden - 2 options:
1) Medicare for anyone who wants it
2) Private Health Care

Sanders - 1 option:
1) Medicare

I couldn't support Sanders as a primary candidate until he introduces some fucking strategy into how he proposes getting things done. You want 1 option? Great. Do what the public will do: assume that the government will bungle it first, provide it as an option, optimize it, and you won't have a problem getting all to pivot to it over a few years if you can provide the quality. The absence of that will lead to people potentially receiving a lesser quality of service than they're used to, and guess what, people don't like that risk. If M4A is so vastly superior, you'll see that shift organically as people see the value instead of hear it from Bernie Sanders shouting it at you. 

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

Trump: willing to ignore boomers in the name of progress

Bernie: willing to ignore boomers in the name of progress

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Biden: Forgets his line of thought, both about boomers and progress

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

mrussel1 said:

CM189191 said:

mrussel1 said:

myoung321 said:

I'm 56 so ?

So I don't need anyone telling me what's best for my family.  

'my car has no seatbelts'

No,  not the same analogy.  I'm not arguing for no insurance,  I'm arguing for choice of insurance.  

My car has seatbelts. But sometimes I don't wear it?

And what company was the first to introduce the three-point seatbelt?

Spiritual_Chaos

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

Ledbetterman10

^^ I can’t believe this is the best the Dems could come up with. Out of like twenty candidates. Sad to see cause I like Biden, but Jesus, just keep as low a profile as you can and let Trump fuck up the virus response. The less Joe talks, the better. If not for the Coronavirus, I think Trump would steamroll him. But Trump has been so overwhelmingly bad with his response to the virus that even good ole Joe has a chance. 

Lerxst1992

Ledbetterman10 said:

^^ I can’t believe this is the best the Dems could come up with. Out of like twenty candidates. Sad to see cause I like Biden, but Jesus, just keep as low a profile as you can and let Trump fuck up the virus response. The less Joe talks, the better. If not for the Coronavirus, I think Trump would steamroll him. But Trump has been so overwhelmingly bad with his response to the virus that even good ole Joe has a chance. 

The Truthsayer Mooch yesterday changed his prediction from Trump likely loses to reelection now is 50/50. I a very concerned he will get a covid bump. If this crisis extends it will make attacking trump very difficult in the fall.

Our bizarre social and political rules prevent many qualified candidates from winning in the US.

You have watched one of Cuomo’s pressers? He is articulate, straight with the facts, full of reason and compassion and filled with informative power point slides. The exact opposite of trump. But he can never win. Personally, a close relative works in a partially regulated field, Cuomo has caused a lot of grief with his authoritarian orders, but they are always about safety. The problem is Cuomo shifts govt responsibility to the private sector, because he is dictator. I think even with that,  his response to this crisis we are changing our opinion about Cuomo.

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

^^ I can’t believe this is the best the Dems could come up with. Out of like twenty candidates. Sad to see cause I like Biden, but Jesus, just keep as low a profile as you can and let Trump fuck up the virus response. The less Joe talks, the better. If not for the Coronavirus, I think Trump would steamroll him. But Trump has been so overwhelmingly bad with his response to the virus that even good ole Joe has a chance. 

Should have gone with the best one (other than wildcard Bernie and Bernie-light Liz):



Too bad he didn't go further.

Ledbetterman10

Lerxst1992 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

^^ I can’t believe this is the best the Dems could come up with. Out of like twenty candidates. Sad to see cause I like Biden, but Jesus, just keep as low a profile as you can and let Trump fuck up the virus response. The less Joe talks, the better. If not for the Coronavirus, I think Trump would steamroll him. But Trump has been so overwhelmingly bad with his response to the virus that even good ole Joe has a chance. 

The Truthsayer Mooch yesterday changed his prediction from Trump likely loses to reelection now is 50/50. I a very concerned he will get a covid bump. If this crisis extends it will make attacking trump very difficult in the fall.

Our bizarre social and political rules prevent many qualified candidates from winning in the US.

You have watched one of Cuomo’s pressers? He is articulate, straight with the facts, full of reason and compassion and filled with informative power point slides. The exact opposite of trump. But he can never win. Personally, a close relative works in a partially regulated field, Cuomo has caused a lot of grief with his authoritarian orders, but they are always about safety. The problem is Cuomo shifts govt responsibility to the private sector, because he is dictator. I think even with that,  his response to this crisis we are changing our opinion about Cuomo.

Yeah I’ve liked Cuomo through this whole thing. He’s way more of a leader than Trump (I know, who isn’t?) and he really seems sincere and passionate about helping his people. 

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

^^ I can’t believe this is the best the Dems could come up with. Out of like twenty candidates. Sad to see cause I like Biden, but Jesus, just keep as low a profile as you can and let Trump fuck up the virus response. The less Joe talks, the better. If not for the Coronavirus, I think Trump would steamroll him. But Trump has been so overwhelmingly bad with his response to the virus that even good ole Joe has a chance. 

We had 20 candidates.  It's not like the "Dems" drafted their best 20 and this was it.  You choose from what's available. 

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

What's wrong with this interview?  You've never been on a conference call and people keep talking and pausing at the same time?  

Ledbetterman10

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

What's wrong with this interview?  You've never been on a conference call and people keep talking and pausing at the same time?  

I don't think he's referring to the talking and pausing due to the conference call lag. I think he's referring to Biden himself saying "that's a stupid way to say it" at the beginning, and then saying "he shouldn't have said it that way" towards the end. That's all, just awkwardness. 

Frankly, I think this virus is a Godsend for the Biden candidacy. He doesn't have to travel and campaign which is good. And really, he should just keep a low profile for the next month or two and let Trump beat himself...because that's what Trump's doing right now. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

What's wrong with this interview?  You've never been on a conference call and people keep talking and pausing at the same time?  

...ok ... sure...

static111

Shouldn’t he act like a president? I mean he is president and so wouldn’t logic dictate that everything he does is acting like a president?  I mean I despise trump but he does currently hold the title.

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

CM189191 said:

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden

I don't know if he did. 

But what is this weird dude still doing in the race

https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1242564997688983552?s=20

Haha.

What's wrong with this interview?  You've never been on a conference call and people keep talking and pausing at the same time?  

I don't think he's referring to the talking and pausing due to the conference call lag. I think he's referring to Biden himself saying "that's a stupid way to say it" at the beginning, and then saying "he shouldn't have said it that way" towards the end. That's all, just awkwardness. 

Frankly, I think this virus is a Godsend for the Biden candidacy. He doesn't have to travel and campaign which is good. And really, he should just keep a low profile for the next month or two and let Trump beat himself...because that's what Trump's doing right now. 

I don't know... it makes him more 'real' to me. 

I also don't know how this will affect the campaign.  People gravitate to leadership during times of crisis.  So Trump has a natural advantage in this, but he can certainly blow it (and has been).  

mickeyrat

static111 said:

Shouldn’t he act like a president? I mean he is president and so wouldn’t logic dictate that everything he does is acting like a president?  I mean I despise trump but he does currently hold the title.

he is president being trump.

so I'll ask you to define "acting like a president" which on its face suggest he isnt a president if he acting LIKE one.

as president theres been little to nothing presidential about anything he has done or said.

CM189191

did Bernie drop out yet?

Bernie needs to drop out

static111

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

Shouldn’t he act like a president? I mean he is president and so wouldn’t logic dictate that everything he does is acting like a president?  I mean I despise trump but he does currently hold the title.

he is president being trump.

so I'll ask you to define "acting like a president" which on its face suggest he isnt a president if he acting LIKE one.

as president theres been little to nothing presidential about anything he has done or said.

I get what you mean, but having had so many presidents what exactly does presidential even mean. I mean the guy is out there being himself which is what all presidents have ever done. Good or bad it’s still presidential.  It’s like a huge bell curve.  He’s on the bad end of presidential behavior but he is still presidential by virtue of being president.