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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    ecdanc said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    This seems like a problem. For those of you that are pro-Bernie, what do you make of this? Do you fee this is an issue and if not, why not?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html
    It's definitely something the others are going to bring up at tomorrow's debate. It's not a "gotcha" type of thing like Amy not knowing the Mexican President's name. Medicare for all and free college tuition are the two centerpieces of Sanders' campaign. If he can't explain it, who can? 

    He should have just said Mexico is going to pay for it, and that he'll talk to President-What's-His-Name about it. It's worked before I guess. 
    The explanation is simple: tax the rich as much as it takes. 
    Well he did actually say "We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation."

    My assumed response from Wall Street: Define "modest." 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    F Me In The Brain said:
    OK, I mis-worded that post.  In 2016, 538's
    "final forecast, issued early Tuesday evening, had Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College."

    Why do I care what they show for polling, now?

    You probably shouldn't unless you're a political junkie. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    This seems like a problem. For those of you that are pro-Bernie, what do you make of this? Do you fee this is an issue and if not, why not?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html
    It's definitely something the others are going to bring up at tomorrow's debate. It's not a "gotcha" type of thing like Amy not knowing the Mexican President's name. Medicare for all and free college tuition are the two centerpieces of Sanders' campaign. If he can't explain it, who can? 

    He should have just said Mexico is going to pay for it, and that he'll talk to President-What's-His-Name about it. It's worked before I guess. 
    The explanation is simple: tax the rich as much as it takes. 
    Well he did actually say "We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation."

    My assumed response from Wall Street: Define "modest." 
    If Wall Street is still there, too modest. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    In what way is that (from that view) gorgeous...

    ... find a better spot

    Also, you are mentioning "mixed economy" a lot lately. Sounding like some campaign adviser told to you push that. never seen it before from you. I take it you can't deny the superiority of Social Democracy anymore and have to move towards shining a bit of that light on the US in your rhetoric.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    I always wanted to visit Volgograd, Siberia not so much. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited February 2020
    My predictions -- and I HAVE BEEN SO DAMN CORRECT LATELY IN THIS THREAD.

    Elisabeth Warren will keep stealing the spotlight in the SC debate. Biden will in his live-or-die position perform really good. He will be on fire. Both taking support from Bernie. 

    Biden will overperform in SC. Bernie will underperform. And it will be the start of Bernie falling and Warren rising up again, and Biden taking back his no 1 spot in polls.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    In what way is that (from that view) gorgeous...

    ... find a better spot

    Also, you are mentioning "mixed economy" a lot lately. Sounding like some campaign adviser told to you push that. never seen it before from you. I take it you can't deny the superiority of Social Democracy anymore and have to move towards shining a bit of that light on the US in your rhetoric.
    We aren't laissez faire,  so Im being precise with the language that describes our economy.  And unfortunately,  the campaign advisers don't call or email me with social media strategies.  I think they've figured out this is the extent of my media presence. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,807
    mcgruff10 said:
    I always wanted to visit Volgograd, Siberia not so much. 

    I went to Estonia shortly after they opened things up to Westerners, in 1992. 
    We then went to St Petersburg. 
    Both Estonia and Russia were fascinating to visit -- it was a large time of change in the history of both countries and there was a pretty strong difference between the welcome we received in both places.  In Russia?  People kept to themselves and when we could engage them the atmosphere was almost universally one of fear.  What would happen?  People seemed scared to do anything.  The black market folks were happy to see us, but not so much most others.  The Hermitage was amazingly beautiful.  (And, sad.)
    Estonia stood in contrast to Russia -- the people would often hug us upon learning we were from the West, that their country was open now and that our being there was proof of strong changes taking place.  Many cried.  We had an amazing 2 weeks there - and I did not meet a single person who thought Communism was a good thing.  The hatred for the USSR was everywhere we went - on display for others to see.

    Never wanted to go to Siberia either.  :lol:       


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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited February 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    @ecdanc would you show Miracle to your class? 

    Or would you show some good old communist newsreel supercut from the 40s?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    @ecdanc would you show Miracle your class?
    Never seen it, so I dunno. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
    Definitely a great moment but it wasn’t on tv.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
    Definitely a great moment but it wasn’t on tv.  
    He didn't say greatest televised sports moment in US history. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
    Definitely a great moment but it wasn’t on tv.  
    He didn't say greatest televised sports moment in US history. 
    I think 1980 was the bigger moment.  Both were great for many reasons. You are just pissed that the commies lost. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
    Definitely a great moment but it wasn’t on tv.  
    He didn't say greatest televised sports moment in US history. 
    I think 1980 was the bigger moment.  Both were great for many reasons. You are just pissed that the commies lost. 
    I think picking a hockey moment is telling....
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    My predictions -- and I HAVE BEEN SO DAMN CORRECT LATELY IN THIS THREAD.

    Elisabeth Warren will keep stealing the spotlight in the SC debate. Biden will in his live-or-die position perform really good. He will be on fire. Both taking support from Bernie. 

    Biden will overperform in SC. Bernie will underperform. And it will be the start of Bernie falling and Warren rising up again, and Biden taking back his no 1 spot in polls.
    Our very own Punxsutawney Phil :lol:
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Just checked in and looking at the gorgeous capital of our mixed economy, here in the Financial District.   Granted it's not as pretty as Stalingrad, as I don't see any trains to Siberia filled with dissidents,  but one can hope one day we'll achieve the Marxist dream that is so successful. 


    We watched miracle in class today.  I swear all the Russian hickey players were probably killed after that olympics. Can’t bekieve it was forty years ago yesterday. 
    Greatest sports moment in US history.  It's also my earliest Olympic memory.  I was 7 and my dad yanked me off the bus to watch it.  It was played on delay the next day.  I remember it clearly. 
    Jesse Owens would like a word. 
    Definitely a great moment but it wasn’t on tv.  
    He didn't say greatest televised sports moment in US history. 
    I think 1980 was the bigger moment.  Both were great for many reasons. You are just pissed that the commies lost. 
    We're one upping the stupid arguments around here.  

    I wanted to take in a Rangers game,  as im a huge hockey fan.  But I was thrilled to find out that Jimmy Cobb is playing tonight at the Blue Note in the Village.  He's the last living musician who played on Miles Davis Kind of Blue.   Mickey and I are going to turn you on to jazz at some point. 
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