Just asking for a fair chance, that’s all. Nothing more than that.
And as for the ‘you should have known’ and ‘you’ve got nobody but yourself to blame’ comments, you are missing the point. Do you really think that 3am is an acceptable time to put a limited edition item on sale? Why not make it a pre-order so everyone gets a fair chance?
Its a limited item though. Like a poster. The Vaults are pressed to order. No matter what time it goes on sale a lot of time zones are missing out. Maybe 10c could do these at 9pm est? Idk. Then the European fans will surely miss out. Theres no real answer
The answer is in your post. Why couldn't this be pressed to order, like the Vaults? It's guaranteed sales for 10C, and everyone gets a chance.
So your real issue isn’t the time it went on sale, it’s that it wasn’t pressed to order? I can understand that argument as it certainly makes more sense than changing the on sale time zone.
Exactly. We can't do anything about the time difference, and like I said earlier, it will always be early for someone. It just seems like it would make more sense for this to be available for longer so everyone gets a shot at it. We've been talking about it on here for months so 10C know the demand is there.
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Not more sense then just pressing 3,000 or how many and being done with it. I’d say we are lucky they do that for the vaults but to aske them to do it for all limited releases is pretty ridiculous
I'm happy that I was able to barely remember today was the day and scored one. Looking forward to blasting it in the record room. Thanks, 10C!
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I say the following as constructive input vs. as complain-y whinging ...
Knock out two common Ten Club complaints with one Stone and offer this type of thing to Analog tier members only.
Would keep more people in the Analog tier (good for Ten Club) and would be a nice vinyl reward for those who stick with Analog. Press the same number of LPs as there are Analog tier members and if people don’t claim/purchase after a week then release a batch to the reg’ler folk in the Club. Don’t even need to do it every year. A keen rarity on vinyl once in a while would make the Analog tier even more appealing than it was with the Xmas 45.
To those who got one: If you spin it, I hope it’s great. If you sell it, let the market bear what it will. Y’all aren’t being immoral. Annoying perhaps, but not immoral.
Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Limited edition Ten Club version of Live at Easy Street on colored vinyl now available in the Shop to members only. Directly from newsletter
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Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Limited edition Ten Club version of Live at Easy Street on colored vinyl now available in the Shop to members only. Directly from newsletter
I meant the previous newsletter many months ago that first mentioned a 10c version.
Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Limited edition Ten Club version of Live at Easy Street on colored vinyl now available in the Shop to members only. Directly from newsletter
So the red ones they put to eBay to get large prices for charity.... are the from this same batch? Obviously looks yes.... just asking for the more aware out there to confirm.
Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Limited edition Ten Club version of Live at Easy Street on colored vinyl now available in the Shop to members only. Directly from newsletter
So the red ones they put to eBay to get large prices for charity.... are the from this same batch? Obviously looks yes.... just asking for the more aware out there to confirm.
Yes i’m assuming so. I figure thats why they sold theirs on Ebay before releasing the rest.
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Majorly bummed I missed this, was checking routinely but of course, today had to be the day my hands were full. Sucks we had to wait so long just to be shut out.
Especially when you can go on Ebay and already see the flippers....
Forgive if I’m wrong but there was no indication this would be limited. I remember the newsletter stating that there would be a 10c edition. That’s all it said. Nothing about colored version or limited. I took that to mean they would be selling something that all 10c members would have the ability to purchase.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
They didn’t say limited but they did say exclusive, which one of the more popular guesses as to what makes it exclusive was color vinyl. They also sold a couple on eBay already, so we’ve known for a while they were red vinyl. They never indicated limited but it was a RSD release, which are always limited. And they actually did a huge run considering. Ten Club did this for the members as an above and beyond complement to RSD. We know there are 12,000 of these records out there between US RSD, Euro RSD, & 10C. The resale market will be saturated and prices will come down. Be patient, and watch for good deals. You’ll find one.
By RSD standards there are a TON of these things pressed. That’s awesome.
Lets not lose sight of the fact that this is for RSD. These red ones are a cool favor from the 10c
This isn’t RSD.
People skewing their reality to defend Pearl Jam rather feeding into the "limited edition collectors" bullshit frenzy than making as many fans as possible happy and getting the chance.
And in what way is the whole nature of RSD "limited"? The whole nature of RSD is to support and get people into record stores.
People really need to stop taking how things happen to be as a godgiven rule about how it must be.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
You people act like this is the end of the world. Relax, it’s just a record. People have bigger problems. Life goes on. It’s going to be ok. Life is limited as well, go out and enjoy it instead of complaining about missing out on a record that you might spin 2x.
Serious question I know everyone hates flippers, but do you guys go after the trade bait gang as hard because they are pretty much doing the same thing
You people act like this is the end of the world. Relax, it’s just a record. People have bigger problems. Life goes on. It’s going to be ok. Life is limited as well, go out and enjoy it instead of complaining about missing out on a record that you might spin 2x.
I like this and agree fully. My thoughts are that by now, most people that [try to] buy PJ merch/music know
how hard it can be get things, and to me, that's part of the fun, and I don't disagree with a business model that keeps up such a frenzy. It keeps up engaged. I've
missed out on plenty, got lucky on some, overpaid for things on the
secondary market as well. I'm fortunate in that I have a desk job and
can be on the forums near constantly. I realize not everyone is in the
same boat, and that there are certainly people that manage to get every little fucking PJ thing in the world, but hopefully the majority of fans get a few cool things along the way.
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You people act like this is the end of the world. Relax, it’s just a record. People have bigger problems. Life goes on. It’s going to be ok. Life is limited as well, go out and enjoy it instead of complaining about missing out on a record that you might spin 2x.
I like this and agree fully. My thoughts are that by now, most people that [try to] buy PJ merch/music know
how hard it can be get things, and to me, that's part of the fun, and I don't disagree with a business model that keeps up such a frenzy. It keeps up engaged. I've
missed out on plenty, got lucky on some, overpaid for things on the
secondary market as well. I'm fortunate in that I have a desk job and
can be on the forums near constantly. I realize not everyone is in the
same boat, and that there are certainly people that manage to get every little fucking PJ thing in the world, but hopefully the majority of fans get a few cool things along the way.
This is the most disgusting thing I've read on this board, other than @mcgruff10 hating You Are.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
You people act like this is the end of the world. Relax, it’s just a record. People have bigger problems. Life goes on. It’s going to be ok. Life is limited as well, go out and enjoy it instead of complaining about missing out on a record that you might spin 2x.
I like this and agree fully. My thoughts are that by now, most people that [try to] buy PJ merch/music know
how hard it can be get things, and to me, that's part of the fun, and I don't disagree with a business model that keeps up such a frenzy. It keeps up engaged. I've
missed out on plenty, got lucky on some, overpaid for things on the
secondary market as well. I'm fortunate in that I have a desk job and
can be on the forums near constantly. I realize not everyone is in the
same boat, and that there are certainly people that manage to get every little fucking PJ thing in the world, but hopefully the majority of fans get a few cool things along the way.
This is the most disgusting thing I've read on this board, other than @mcgruff10 hating You Are.
ha ha! I bet some of you crack a smile and think to yourself how much I hate this song when you see it played live. lol
And I don't think anyone is acting like it is the end of the world rather we are discussing Pearl Jam issues on a Pearl Jam message board. Isn't that the purpose of this site?
You people act like this is the end of the world. Relax, it’s just a record. People have bigger problems. Life goes on. It’s going to be ok. Life is limited as well, go out and enjoy it instead of complaining about missing out on a record that you might spin 2x.
I like this and agree fully. My thoughts are that by now, most people that [try to] buy PJ merch/music know
how hard it can be get things, and to me, that's part of the fun, and I don't disagree with a business model that keeps up such a frenzy. It keeps up engaged. I've
missed out on plenty, got lucky on some, overpaid for things on the
secondary market as well. I'm fortunate in that I have a desk job and
can be on the forums near constantly. I realize not everyone is in the
same boat, and that there are certainly people that manage to get every little fucking PJ thing in the world, but hopefully the majority of fans get a few cool things along the way.
This is the most disgusting thing I've read on this board, other than @mcgruff10 hating You Are.
{shrugs}
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By RSD standards there are a TON of these things pressed. That’s awesome.
Lets not lose sight of the fact that this is for RSD. These red ones are a cool favor from the 10c
This isn’t RSD.
People skewing their reality to defend Pearl Jam rather feeding into the "limited edition collectors" bullshit frenzy than making as many fans as possible happy and getting the chance.
And in what way is the whole nature of RSD "limited"? The whole nature of RSD is to support and get people into record stores.
People really need to stop taking how things happen to be as a godgiven rule about how it must be.
RSD is almost defined by the words limited and exclusive. “The album you’ve owned for 17 years now on limited seagreen vinyl! Only 1,000 copies! RSD exclusive!!” People who want something are not going to stroll into their record store at 4pm on RSD. People lineup at 4am. Is it right? I dont know. But that’s how it is. No one is going to press 20,000 copies of any band for RSD.
pearl jam did their fans a huge favor by pressing 9,000 of these on black and a few thousand on red. That’s huge. These aren't going to be Bennys. Relax.
I get goldrush’s frustration. I miss on 90% of the PSST’s and I'm in a US timezone. But not everything is going to be mass produced. It doesn't make sense sometimes to do that. Celebrate the fact that albums and Vaults are widely available on vinyl now.
Serious question I know everyone hates flippers, but do you guys go after the trade bait gang as hard because they are pretty much doing the same thing
Yes, some do. But I don't see anything wrong with buying just to trade.
I thought that the RSD release of this title was a first run, meaning that this (at least the black vinyl) would be released at some point to all retailers and have a much larger run. I could be misremembering though.
I thought that the RSD release of this title was a first run, meaning that this (at least the black vinyl) would be released at some point to all retailers and have a much larger run. I could be misremembering though.
It was labeled "RSD first" or whatever. So that is what people said before RSD.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I thought that the RSD release of this title was a first run, meaning that this (at least the black vinyl) would be released at some point to all retailers and have a much larger run. I could be misremembering though.
I always think of RSD First as a loophole. It's bands (or their labels) saying that it might get regular release at some point. To prevent people from complaining if they decide to do another release down the road. Some bands plan a regular release before RSD (like new record is an RSD first, but will relrelease on this date 2 months later). Some bands never get around to rereleasing RSD first. Some bands realize it was a popular pressing and do a 2nd run after the fact I think of it as an out clause.
Technically there's an outclause for this. Doesn't mean their can't be another pressing down the road. Newbury Comics purple pressing or something.... lol
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It just seems like it would make more sense for this to be available for longer so everyone gets a shot at it. We've been talking about it on here for months so 10C know the demand is there.
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Knock out two common Ten Club complaints with one Stone and offer this type of thing to Analog tier members only.
Would keep more people in the Analog tier (good for Ten Club) and would be a nice vinyl reward for those who stick with Analog. Press the same number of LPs as there are Analog tier members and if people don’t claim/purchase after a week then release a batch to the reg’ler folk in the Club. Don’t even need to do it every year. A keen rarity on vinyl once in a while would make the Analog tier even more appealing than it was with the Xmas 45.
To those who got one: If you spin it, I hope it’s great. If you sell it, let the market bear what it will. Y’all aren’t being immoral. Annoying perhaps, but not immoral.
As said so many times on this forum for a band that claims to love vinyl they sure make it difficult for their fans to actually get vinyl copies of their releases. They didn’t just climb out from under a rock and can claim ignorance about the fact that all this limited crap just causes flippers to charge exorbitant prices for their stuff. Obviously it just doesn’t bother them because they can stop this. It’s very easy.
Directly from newsletter
Especially when you can go on Ebay and already see the flippers....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/PEARL-JAM-LIVE-AT-EASY-STREET-Red-COLOR-VINYL-RSD-TEN-CLUB-EDITION-Sold-Out/254292609974?hash=item3b35054bb6:g:76gAAOSwt~1dJlhd
We know there are 12,000 of these records out there between US RSD, Euro RSD, & 10C. The resale market will be saturated and prices will come down. Be patient, and watch for good deals. You’ll find one.
There is no reason to keep it that limited when they know fans will buy it. Period.
And in what way is the whole nature of RSD "limited"? The whole nature of RSD is to support and get people into record stores.
People really need to stop taking how things happen to be as a godgiven rule about how it must be.
Oh wait!
And I don't think anyone is acting like it is the end of the world rather we are discussing Pearl Jam issues on a Pearl Jam message board. Isn't that the purpose of this site?
pearl jam did their fans a huge favor by pressing 9,000 of these on black and a few thousand on red. That’s huge. These aren't going to be Bennys. Relax.
I get goldrush’s frustration. I miss on 90% of the PSST’s and I'm in a US timezone. But not everything is going to be mass produced. It doesn't make sense sometimes to do that. Celebrate the fact that albums and Vaults are widely available on vinyl now.
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Sorry brother, I just couldn't pass up on it. Like Schwarber on a ball low and away. FUCK! It's just too easy!