Things that give you hope.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    edited January 2020
    helplessdancer said:
    I read about Seattle losing the hard drug war problem and the paradigm shift towards not arresting addicts with less than 1 gram for personal. Saving 3 million dollars spent on court system repeat "offenders" and putting that money towards treatment programs for the repeat offenders. Gives me hope that maybe one day we will finally get it.
    It sounds awesome on paper. It has resulted in Seattle becoming a shithole. Cops won't arrest someone with 3 grams of opiates. And those people piss and shit on the sidewalks and shoot up in plain view. Assaults are rampant. It is a giant clusterfuck of enabling bad behavior. I'm not sure what we're supposed to get, but I know what we got.

    Edit: Sorry, I know this is the hope thread, but this particular issue is not something that gives me any sort of hope, and in fact leads to the exact opposite as I watch a segment of our society decay right before our eyes on the streets.
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    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    lastexitlondon said:
    My daughter  gives  me hope.
    She is 18 and just about to embark on a university course and one of englands red brick universities doing  micro biology. 
    I spoke with her yesterday  and she is fascinated with helping people who are suffering from genetic diseases.  
    Im proud . Humbled and mind blown all in one. There  is hope as there  are youngsters  out there who care and want to make a difference.  
    Awesome! Good luck to her.


    hippiemom = goodness
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    jeffbr said:
    It sounds awesome on paper. It has resulted in Seattle becoming a shithole. Cops won't arrest someone with 3 grams of opiates. And those people piss and shit on the sidewalks and shoot up in plain view. Assaults are rampant. It is a giant clusterfuck of enabling bad behavior. I'm not sure what we're supposed to get, but I know what we got.

    Edit: Sorry, I know this is the hope thread, but this particular issue is not something that gives me any sort of hope, and in fact leads to the exact opposite as I watch a segment of our society decay right before our eyes on the streets.
    my mind is open, and i am listening, and always learning  :)
    so i need to ask you about your opinion on a solution to the crisis?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,414
    edited January 2020
    RUSH. their body of work renews hope for me. its honest. earnest. vulnerable. defiant. its human.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I'm starting to like the new PJ song  =)

    hope


    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    nintendo

    david fincher
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    kce8 said:
    Song Of Good Hope!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_le35eei-g

    Thank you for posting this...it gave my soul some soothing today.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I have long admired Vaclav Havel's definition of hope- the idea that hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well, but that hope is doing what makes sense no matter how things turn out. That seems very positive to me.   I don't find any positive or anything that makes sense in celebrating someone's death.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    brianlux said:
    I have long admired Vaclav Havel's definition of hope- the idea that hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well, but that hope is doing what makes sense no matter how things turn out. That seems very positive to me.   I don't find any positive or anything that makes sense in celebrating someone's death.
    Are their thread rules?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
    brianlux said:
    I have long admired Vaclav Havel's definition of hope- the idea that hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well, but that hope is doing what makes sense no matter how things turn out. That seems very positive to me.   I don't find any positive or anything that makes sense in celebrating someone's death.
    Are their thread rules?

    All Pearl Jam forum threads have rules but what I said has nothing to do with rules- it's just how I feel and think.

    Let me expand:

    I don't find hope in the death of someone I see as a terrible person.  For example, if Trump died, I would not find hope in that even though I think Trump is a terrible person.  I say this because I don't think Trump is the problem.  Trump is a symptom of what I see as a larger problem. 

    Here, on the other hand, is someone who gives me hope:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    brianlux said:
    ecdanc said:
    brianlux said:
    I have long admired Vaclav Havel's definition of hope- the idea that hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well, but that hope is doing what makes sense no matter how things turn out. That seems very positive to me.   I don't find any positive or anything that makes sense in celebrating someone's death.
    Are their thread rules?

    All Pearl Jam forum threads have rules but what I said has nothing to do with rules- it's just how I feel and think.

    Let me expand:

    I don't find hope in the death of someone I see as a terrible person.  For example, if Trump died, I would not find hope in that even though I think Trump is a terrible person.  I say this because I don't think Trump is the problem.  Trump is a symptom of what I see as a larger problem. 

    Here, on the other hand, is someone who gives me hope:

    I hear you. We all find hope in our own places. I definitely don’t hope Yang dies! (That’s as close as I get to an endorsement!)
  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,131
    It’s inappropriate to wish death upon another person. Please don’t do that here or anywhere on the forum. Please see the Posting Guidelines.
    Thank you

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    Sea said:
    It’s inappropriate to wish death upon another person. Please don’t do that here or anywhere on the forum. Please see the Posting Guidelines.
    Thank you

    I didn’t. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Well now... well, well, well.

    It will surprise me if this thread doesn't go down in flames.  That would be a shame.  It will feel hopeful if it doesn't.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    brianlux said:
    Well now... well, well, well.

    It will surprise me if this thread doesn't go down in flames.  That would be a shame.  It will feel hopeful if it doesn't.
    Seems like as long as we don’t wish death on anyone, we’re good. And no one has done that. Hope for all!
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    One of my favorite scenes (quiet, @dankind ;) ):
    https://youtu.be/QnjrClaWdT0

    And speaking of great scenes...and what should be.  Perhaps hope too?

    Then again, this IS LA...
    https://youtu.be/kQH2E8_oNS4


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