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  • PJ_Soul
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    The Juggler said:
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    pjhawks said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden fired up right now on CNN. In Chicago and defending his record on many fronts. Sleepy Joe ain’t so sleepy.
    Wasnt sleepy in the debate either. This narrative being built up, in this thread and elsewehere, about his sleepyness is not factual. Folks.

    BIDEN 2020 
    I agree he never seemed sleepy. Isn't Trump the one who made that up on Twitter??? I can't believe it actually appears to have stuck with liberals. Wtf?
    he's not sleepy...he's just old.  the Dems have to do better than 76 year old Joe Biden and 77 year old Bernie Sanders.  If it makes me an ageist to say they are too old to be President...then call me an ageist.
    Biden seems pretty energetic and not at all slow or old in terms of how be behaves or processes information, no matter what his age is IMO. Same with Bernie. God knows both certainly come off as way less senile, old, and out of shape than Trump.
    Well...a few things:
    He stumbled over his words quite a few times and he had that deer in the headlights look when he was being attacked as if he somehow wasn't expecting it. He also answered "defeat Donald Trump" in response to what his first order of business would be after being sworn in.

    Old. Sleepy. Ill-prepared. However you want to put it: he was not good at all, especially in the second hour. 
    Hey, I'm not for Biden. I just don't think he seems sleepy and I don't think any of what's wrong with him is due to his age. I don't think he was any better than he is now 10 years ago, or 20, or 30.
    I am actually for Biden. But go back and watch some youtube clips of him in 07. Even '12. He was very different than how he appeared last night. More witty. Not stumbling over words. And he was also pretty damn funny. He didn't exhibit any of those traits last night. Again, I'm not saying it's totally his age, but he seemed like a different person last night compared to how he came off previously.

    This could just be him being unprepared. Or maybe he is not used to being the front runner. He's usually the one punching up like everyone was towards him last night. Either way, there's definitely a difference. 
    Yeah, I personally think he's just not good with being attacked the way he's being attacked. I also think he changed when his son died - I feel that's when he got more sensitive and a little more delicate. :frowning:
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  • The Juggler
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    PJ_Soul said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden fired up right now on CNN. In Chicago and defending his record on many fronts. Sleepy Joe ain’t so sleepy.
    Wasnt sleepy in the debate either. This narrative being built up, in this thread and elsewehere, about his sleepyness is not factual. Folks.

    BIDEN 2020 
    I agree he never seemed sleepy. Isn't Trump the one who made that up on Twitter??? I can't believe it actually appears to have stuck with liberals. Wtf?
    he's not sleepy...he's just old.  the Dems have to do better than 76 year old Joe Biden and 77 year old Bernie Sanders.  If it makes me an ageist to say they are too old to be President...then call me an ageist.
    Biden seems pretty energetic and not at all slow or old in terms of how be behaves or processes information, no matter what his age is IMO. Same with Bernie. God knows both certainly come off as way less senile, old, and out of shape than Trump.
    Well...a few things:
    He stumbled over his words quite a few times and he had that deer in the headlights look when he was being attacked as if he somehow wasn't expecting it. He also answered "defeat Donald Trump" in response to what his first order of business would be after being sworn in.

    Old. Sleepy. Ill-prepared. However you want to put it: he was not good at all, especially in the second hour. 
    Hey, I'm not for Biden. I just don't think he seems sleepy and I don't think any of what's wrong with him is due to his age. I don't think he was any better than he is now 10 years ago, or 20, or 30.
    I am actually for Biden. But go back and watch some youtube clips of him in 07. Even '12. He was very different than how he appeared last night. More witty. Not stumbling over words. And he was also pretty damn funny. He didn't exhibit any of those traits last night. Again, I'm not saying it's totally his age, but he seemed like a different person last night compared to how he came off previously.

    This could just be him being unprepared. Or maybe he is not used to being the front runner. He's usually the one punching up like everyone was towards him last night. Either way, there's definitely a difference. 
    Yeah, I personally think he's just not good with being attacked the way he's being attacked. I also think he changed when his son died - I feel that's when he got more sensitive and a little more delicate. :frowning:
    Whatever it is, he's gotta be much better. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden fired up right now on CNN. In Chicago and defending his record on many fronts. Sleepy Joe ain’t so sleepy.
    Wasnt sleepy in the debate either. This narrative being built up, in this thread and elsewehere, about his sleepyness is not factual. Folks.

    BIDEN 2020 
    I agree he never seemed sleepy. Isn't Trump the one who made that up on Twitter??? I can't believe it actually appears to have stuck with liberals. Wtf?
    he's not sleepy...he's just old.  the Dems have to do better than 76 year old Joe Biden and 77 year old Bernie Sanders.  If it makes me an ageist to say they are too old to be President...then call me an ageist.
    Biden seems pretty energetic and not at all slow or old in terms of how be behaves or processes information, no matter what his age is IMO. Same with Bernie. God knows both certainly come off as way less senile, old, and out of shape than Trump.
    Well...a few things:
    He stumbled over his words quite a few times and he had that deer in the headlights look when he was being attacked as if he somehow wasn't expecting it. He also answered "defeat Donald Trump" in response to what his first order of business would be after being sworn in.

    Old. Sleepy. Ill-prepared. However you want to put it: he was not good at all, especially in the second hour. 
    Hey, I'm not for Biden. I just don't think he seems sleepy and I don't think any of what's wrong with him is due to his age. I don't think he was any better than he is now 10 years ago, or 20, or 30.
    I am actually for Biden. But go back and watch some youtube clips of him in 07. Even '12. He was very different than how he appeared last night. More witty. Not stumbling over words. And he was also pretty damn funny. He didn't exhibit any of those traits last night. Again, I'm not saying it's totally his age, but he seemed like a different person last night compared to how he came off previously.

    This could just be him being unprepared. Or maybe he is not used to being the front runner. He's usually the one punching up like everyone was towards him last night. Either way, there's definitely a difference. 
    Yeah, I personally think he's just not good with being attacked the way he's being attacked. I also think he changed when his son died - I feel that's when he got more sensitive and a little more delicate. :frowning:
    Whatever it is, he's gotta be much better. 
    .... If you want him to win, yeah. ;)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    edited June 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • brianlux
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    Any combination of Warren, Biden and Harris (two of the three, of course) sounds fine with me. 

    And I'm not concerned about Biden's age.  His mind is far more intact than that of the current POTUS and his experience is vastly greater.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    Then America is completely down the fucking toilet anyway, so whatever. Let America fall.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I thought the Swedes helped the Nazis, not the Bolsheviks. Or maybe like Italy,  you just jump sides. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    edited June 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    Then America is completely down the fucking toilet anyway, so whatever. Let America fall.
    Well that s a pretty dumb/ignorant attitude to have. We need to pick the candidate that is most likely to beat Trump and I think anyone that understands America would realize that warren/Harris would get destroyed.  
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    edited June 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    Then America is completely down the fucking toilet anyway, so whatever. Let America fall.
    Well that s a pretty dumb/ignorant attitude to have. We need to pick the candidate that is most likely to beat Trump and I think anyone that understands America would see warren/Harris would get destroyed.  
    I know, that is my entire point. The fact that they (supposedly) couldn't beat Trump because of American voters, or even that so many think they couldn't beat Trump, is a good sign that America is just too fucked for redemption. Surely you understand why I want to just throw my hands up and say, "FUCK IT." That's not dumb or ignorant. It's very well deserved frustration and anger.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    Then America is completely down the fucking toilet anyway, so whatever. Let America fall.
    Well that s a pretty dumb/ignorant attitude to have. We need to pick the candidate that is most likely to beat Trump and I think anyone that understands America would see warren/Harris would get destroyed.  
    I know, that is my entire point. The fact that they (supposedly) couldn't beat Trump because of American voters, or even that so many think they couldn't beat Trump, is a good sign that America is just too fucked for redemption. Surely you understand why I want to just throw my hands up and say, "FUCK IT." That's not dumb or ignorant. It's very well deserved frustration and anger.
    A traffic cone should be able to beat Trump.  But America is too stupid to elect it.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I thought the Swedes helped the Nazis, not the Bolsheviks. Or maybe like Italy,  you just jump sides. 
    Lol,  the Italy of Scandinavia works.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden/Harris, Biden/Warren, with Sleepy Joe serving one term. And if either refuses the VP slot, there’s room in the cabinet. Harris as AG, Warren as secretary of Commerce. There’s also room for the others and it’s all predicated on Sleepy Joe winning the primaries and being the nominee. Those would be formidable tickets. 
    Warren/Biden would be okay I guess.
    I don’t think Biden would accept a vp nomination.  
    Great, Warren/Harris then. Even better! :)
    Trump would love this!  There’s a sure way to guarantee a second term. 
    Then America is completely down the fucking toilet anyway, so whatever. Let America fall.
    Well that s a pretty dumb/ignorant attitude to have. We need to pick the candidate that is most likely to beat Trump and I think anyone that understands America would see warren/Harris would get destroyed.  
    I know, that is my entire point. The fact that they (supposedly) couldn't beat Trump because of American voters, or even that so many think they couldn't beat Trump, is a good sign that America is just too fucked for redemption. Surely you understand why I want to just throw my hands up and say, "FUCK IT." That's not dumb or ignorant. It's very well deserved frustration and anger.
    I get it now and agree. Thank you for explaining  it further.  

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    Meltdown99 said:
    RYME said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Ignore makes this so much easier

    I took this screen grab to make a simple point.
    here is another simple point:


    Im still puzzled, What the fuck was your point with these pictures and my post highlighted??

    That’s the Sweden’s navy???
    I want to know what Mr. Chaos was trying to imply with these Soviet Censorship photos??
    He said he was making a simple point.
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