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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    dignin said:
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    dignin said:

    Warren Closes In on Biden in New Democratic Poll


    While Biden collected 31% of Democratic primary voters in the poll released Tuesday, Warren was closing in on the top spot with 25%. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, the only other candidate in double digits, came in third with 14% in the poll that was conducted shortly after the Dems' third debate in Houston last week.

    Rounding out the top five was South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg with 7% and California Senator Kamala Harris with 5%. And although Buttigieg didn't lose ground, Harris fell back 8 points since a similar NBC/WSJ poll conducted after the first Democratic debate in late June.

    Among those polled, about 70% of Democratic primary voters said they are enthusiastic about or comfortable with Warren, compared to about 64% who had similar thoughts about Biden. That's a significant decrease for Biden, however, as he had 73% of likely voters who said they were enthusiastic or comfortable with him in March, according to the poll.

    Also, about 62% polled said they were enthusiastic about or comfortable with Sanders, as some 37% said they had some reservations about him or were uncomfortable with him. That uneasiness with Sanders is higher compared to 35% for Biden and 21% for Warren.

    The poll also shows that among likely voters' combined first and second choice for president, Warren was at 45% (a 13-point increase since the NBC/WSJ July poll), compared to Biden at 41% and Sanders with 29%. Buttigieg came in fourth with 19%. Meanwhile, Harris came in fifth with 14%, a 14-point decrease since the July poll.


    https://fortune.com/2019/09/18/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-polls/

    No real surprises.  I think Biden is pretty much where he was with the last Consult poll, if not a few points higher.  What is becoming increasingly clear is that Sanders is bleeding progressive support to Warren.  I'm sure Sanders has a floor somewhere, which may create a ceiling for Warren.  It will be interesting where the Pete, Harris, Klobuchar voters go after they start to drop out.  Do they go center or left?  I feel like that's where it will be decided.  
    I agree. But I think there is also momentum building for Warren among almost all democrats, even Biden supporters. There is a wildcard factor there I think.


    Yes she seems to be building momentum. Although the Fox poll from yesterday was surprising where she was down 4 points and behind Bernie.  I think that might be an outlier poll again though.  It's time to friggin' vote already.
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    They need someone under 60 on the ticket.  
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    edited September 2019
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mcgruff10 said:
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    The media gets it wrong.  This quote is what happened.  

    ...telling her personal story powerfully even while effectively exposing Joe Biden's weakness over his record on busing. She was in command, comfortable on the stage, presidential....

    She followed up her attack by basically mimicking Bidens position and Democrats realized that busing was not a winning issue.  Cillizza, in this article,  claims it was weak 2nd and 3rd debate.  But her free fall started a week after the first debate when voters realized it eased disingenuous.  

    My opinion. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614

    Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke’s support for confiscating Americans’ firearms doesn’t appear to have helped buoy the Texas Democrat’s presidential campaign, according to a poll published Tuesday.

    O’Rourke struggled to maintain 2% of the vote in a Wall Street Journal poll conducted Sept. 13-16 of 506 Democratic primary voters. His numbers didn’t change much since July, when the former lawmakers pulled in only 1% support.

    The numbers come after the Sept. 12 Democratic debate in which O’Rourke assured viewers that he would indeed make a play for semi-automatic rifles. “Hell yes we are going to take your AR-15, your AK-47,” he said to applause from those who attended the debate in Houston.

    O’Rourke began promoting the position in early September after another mass shooting in Texas left several dead in El Paso. 

    “I see us working with gun owners, non-gun owners, local, county, state, federal law enforcement to come up with the best possible solution. I have yet to meet an owner of an AR-15 who thinks it’s OK that we have these kind of mass killings in this country,” the 46-year-old told reporters in a Sept. 9 interview.

    Tuesday’s poll also showed a bump for former Vice President Joe Biden, who is running neck and neck with Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Biden leads the horserace with backing from 31% of Democratic primary voters, while Warren gets 25 percent.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,302
    ikiT said:
    They need someone under 60 on the ticket.  
    Yes.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    The media gets it wrong.  This quote is what happened.  

    ...telling her personal story powerfully even while effectively exposing Joe Biden's weakness over his record on busing. She was in command, comfortable on the stage, presidential....

    She followed up her attack by basically mimicking Bidens position and Democrats realized that busing was not a winning issue.  Cillizza, in this article,  claims it was weak 2nd and 3rd debate.  But her free fall started a week after the first debate when voters realized it eased disingenuous.  

    My opinion. 
    I think that's true. I also think Tulsi Gabbard nuked her on her criminal justice record. As a prosecutor nothing in Harris' record remotely resembled the progressive she's tried to paint herself as. Death penalty, wrongful convictions, a hard on for convicting marijuana offenses, apparently ignored cases of clergy abuse. It wasn't a good look for her.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    The media gets it wrong.  This quote is what happened.  

    ...telling her personal story powerfully even while effectively exposing Joe Biden's weakness over his record on busing. She was in command, comfortable on the stage, presidential....

    She followed up her attack by basically mimicking Bidens position and Democrats realized that busing was not a winning issue.  Cillizza, in this article,  claims it was weak 2nd and 3rd debate.  But her free fall started a week after the first debate when voters realized it eased disingenuous.  

    My opinion. 
    I think that's true. I also think Tulsi Gabbard nuked her on her criminal justice record. As a prosecutor nothing in Harris' record remotely resembled the progressive she's tried to paint herself as. Death penalty, wrongful convictions, a hard on for convicting marijuana offenses, apparently ignored cases of clergy abuse. It wasn't a good look for her.
    Agree on that too.  I think that was the second debate.  I remember thinking that was retribution for Biden.  
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,302
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    The media gets it wrong.  This quote is what happened.  

    ...telling her personal story powerfully even while effectively exposing Joe Biden's weakness over his record on busing. She was in command, comfortable on the stage, presidential....

    She followed up her attack by basically mimicking Bidens position and Democrats realized that busing was not a winning issue.  Cillizza, in this article,  claims it was weak 2nd and 3rd debate.  But her free fall started a week after the first debate when voters realized it eased disingenuous.  

    My opinion. 
    I think that's true. I also think Tulsi Gabbard nuked her on her criminal justice record. As a prosecutor nothing in Harris' record remotely resembled the progressive she's tried to paint herself as. Death penalty, wrongful convictions, a hard on for convicting marijuana offenses, apparently ignored cases of clergy abuse. It wasn't a good look for her.
    The marijuana thing is wild to me. It just seems like an idea whose time came a while ago, particularly in California. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,383
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

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  • This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,383
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    Fancy schmantzy left coast scholar. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    I hate when people use K for thousand and M for million.  H2M got that right. 

    Here's an old joke from the Iraq war.....

    Condi Rice walked into Bush's office and said.."bad news Mr. President, we just learned that three brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq this week".. well Bush was all broken up and Rice was really confused by how hard he was taking it so she said "Mr. President, what's wrong?".  Bush looks up and says "how many soldiers are in a brazillion?"

    bada tss....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    mrussel1 said:
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    I hate when people use K for thousand and M for million.  H2M got that right. 

    Here's an old joke from the Iraq war.....

    Condi Rice walked into Bush's office and said.."bad news Mr. President, we just learned that three brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq this week".. well Bush was all broken up and Rice was really confused by how hard he was taking it so she said "Mr. President, what's wrong?".  Bush looks up and says "how many soldiers are in a brazillion?"

    bada tss....
    LMAO
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,383
    mrussel1 said:
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    I hate when people use K for thousand and M for million.  H2M got that right. 

    Here's an old joke from the Iraq war.....

    Condi Rice walked into Bush's office and said.."bad news Mr. President, we just learned that three brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq this week".. well Bush was all broken up and Rice was really confused by how hard he was taking it so she said "Mr. President, what's wrong?".  Bush looks up and says "how many soldiers are in a brazillion?"

    bada tss....
    K does not make sense, I agree.  MM is one I use all of the time, but I know what it means...which is why MMM might work. 

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,752
    mrussel1 said:
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    I hate when people use K for thousand and M for million.  H2M got that right. 

    Here's an old joke from the Iraq war.....

    Condi Rice walked into Bush's office and said.."bad news Mr. President, we just learned that three brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq this week".. well Bush was all broken up and Rice was really confused by how hard he was taking it so she said "Mr. President, what's wrong?".  Bush looks up and says "how many soldiers are in a brazillion?"

    bada tss....
    K does not make sense, I agree.  MM is one I use all of the time, but I know what it means...which is why MMM might work. 

    Trump would have yelled at a person of color daring to speak to him.

    It is not the capital letter “K” that stands for “kilo” (thousand), but the small letter “k.” The capital “K” stands for “Kelvin” as in “degrees Kelvin.” We use “k” to represent thousands because it comes  from the Greek word for one thousand
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    mrussel1 said:
    This country just has to come to grips that it’s not ready to vote a woman in as president ! Warren’s problem is electability...
    You know who Warren is going to appeal to? Striking GM workers. GM earned $35BB worldwide and $10BB in the US last year, in addition to spending $25BB in stock buy backs. Their CEO earned $20MM last year. And they want their employees to pay more for health care and not allow “temp” workers, who get 3 paid days off a year, to not have a path to full time work. You think “Pocohantas” is going to hurt her in Wisconsin? Somebody claimed she was cooked months ago. She’s surging and running a hell of a campaign.
    B or Bn for Billion....MM is Thousand Thousand
    I suppose MMM might technically work for a billion, since it is a thousand million.
    ;P

    I hate when people use K for thousand and M for million.  H2M got that right. 

    Here's an old joke from the Iraq war.....

    Condi Rice walked into Bush's office and said.."bad news Mr. President, we just learned that three brazillion soldiers were killed in Iraq this week".. well Bush was all broken up and Rice was really confused by how hard he was taking it so she said "Mr. President, what's wrong?".  Bush looks up and says "how many soldiers are in a brazillion?"

    bada tss....
    K does not make sense, I agree.  MM is one I use all of the time, but I know what it means...which is why MMM might work. 

    Trump would have yelled at a person of color daring to speak to him.

    It is not the capital letter “K” that stands for “kilo” (thousand), but the small letter “k.” The capital “K” stands for “Kelvin” as in “degrees Kelvin.” We use “k” to represent thousands because it comes  from the Greek word for one thousand
    Right but that's 'slang' as it were.  The M is Roman and the proper letter, at least in business.  
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,752
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What happened to Kamala Harris? https://apple.news/A6bIwEuQ6RwO35vQVcq8a_Q
    The media gets it wrong.  This quote is what happened.  

    ...telling her personal story powerfully even while effectively exposing Joe Biden's weakness over his record on busing. She was in command, comfortable on the stage, presidential....

    She followed up her attack by basically mimicking Bidens position and Democrats realized that busing was not a winning issue.  Cillizza, in this article,  claims it was weak 2nd and 3rd debate.  But her free fall started a week after the first debate when voters realized it eased disingenuous.  

    My opinion. 
    I think that's true. I also think Tulsi Gabbard nuked her on her criminal justice record. As a prosecutor nothing in Harris' record remotely resembled the progressive she's tried to paint herself as. Death penalty, wrongful convictions, a hard on for convicting marijuana offenses, apparently ignored cases of clergy abuse. It wasn't a good look for her.


    Harris blew it because once people figured out her attack was about busing, they'd turn on her because it's an outdated issue. Noone buses anymore. She should have figured that out

    She blew it again by going all progressive with M4a. At best she is 3rd in that lane and Warren/Sanders are well established there.

    Seeing alot of love for Warren here and in the polls .

    I really wish voters will be careful if they pick her, she has not been under attack the last few months (that's finally starting to change). That's a big reason she is gaining 

    And she wilted fairly easily when Trump went after her stupid dna test. He will pound away at that issue if she's the nom.

    I just dont see election day voters picking socialist healthcare. I wish my party gets that before its too late.

    The #2 spot for public option lane is wide open after Biden. That's the spot Harris should have went for. Now Pete has it and I'm not sure THIS country votes for Pete unfortunately. 
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:

    Democratic Socialism at it's best  (or worst!)  :lol: 
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    Trump’s doing this because he knows I’ll beat him like a drum, and he’s using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me,” he told reporters in Iowa.

    On Saturday, Biden said that he had never spoken to Hunter about his business dealings in Ukraine, and backed calls for the House to investigate -- as well as suggesting it could begin a path to impeachment.

    “Depending on what the House finds, he could be impeached but I’m not making that judgment now,” he said. “The House should investigate it, this appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power.”

    He went on to call Trump a “serial abuser.”

    “He abuses power everywhere he can and if he sees any threat to staying in power, he’ll do whatever he has to do -- but this crosses the line,” he said.

    Biden’s remarks came just hours after Trump dismissed the controversy as a “Ukraine Witch Hunt” being stoked by the Democratic Party and the “fake news media,” and said that the real scandal was to do with Biden’s interactions in the country.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    Hi! said:

    Trump’s doing this because he knows I’ll beat him like a drum, and he’s using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me,” he told reporters in Iowa.

    On Saturday, Biden said that he had never spoken to Hunter about his business dealings in Ukraine, and backed calls for the House to investigate -- as well as suggesting it could begin a path to impeachment.

    “Depending on what the House finds, he could be impeached but I’m not making that judgment now,” he said. “The House should investigate it, this appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power.”

    He went on to call Trump a “serial abuser.”

    “He abuses power everywhere he can and if he sees any threat to staying in power, he’ll do whatever he has to do -- but this crosses the line,” he said.

    Biden’s remarks came just hours after Trump dismissed the controversy as a “Ukraine Witch Hunt” being stoked by the Democratic Party and the “fake news media,” and said that the real scandal was to do with Biden’s interactions in the country.

    Trump, a "serial abuser".  So true!
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  • brianlux said:
    Hi! said:

    Trump’s doing this because he knows I’ll beat him like a drum, and he’s using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me,” he told reporters in Iowa.

    On Saturday, Biden said that he had never spoken to Hunter about his business dealings in Ukraine, and backed calls for the House to investigate -- as well as suggesting it could begin a path to impeachment.

    “Depending on what the House finds, he could be impeached but I’m not making that judgment now,” he said. “The House should investigate it, this appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power.”

    He went on to call Trump a “serial abuser.”

    “He abuses power everywhere he can and if he sees any threat to staying in power, he’ll do whatever he has to do -- but this crosses the line,” he said.

    Biden’s remarks came just hours after Trump dismissed the controversy as a “Ukraine Witch Hunt” being stoked by the Democratic Party and the “fake news media,” and said that the real scandal was to do with Biden’s interactions in the country.

    Trump, a "serial abuser".  So true!
    Outrage! No cereal should ever be abused! Even if you’re speedbowling it, it’s not abuse.
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  • dignin said:
    I thought Pocahontas killed her candidacy?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,826
    Biden is president or nothing.  I don't see many obvious cabinet members in the field.  I don't think Harris for AG is likely. 
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