2016 and 2018 Fan Club Singles?

drummerboy_73

on2legs said:

I hope they never release the singles so people are cursed and must post here and wail and gnash their teeth for eternity. 

Can I bite the recess lady's breast too?

tbergs

on2legs said:

I hope they never release the singles so people are cursed and must post here and wail and gnash their teeth for eternity. 

I hope that,..nah, not worth it. 

njnancy

Spiritual_Chaos said:

on2legs said:

I hope they never release the singles so people are cursed and must post here and wail and gnash their teeth for eternity. 

Why?

People complain about a lot of things that I may find to be not important. The 2 missing vinyls are a legitimate complaint, imo. But they probably will never be released so wishes can come true...

disilluzion

That's fine if they don't want to release them, but they've already been paid for. So just refund me the difference between analog and digital for each vinyl that I paid for and I'm good.

on2legs

disilluzion said:

That's fine if they don't want to release them, but they've already been paid for. So just refund me the difference between analog and digital for each vinyl that I paid for and I'm good.

That’s a reasonable request. 

drummerboy_73

on2legs said:

disilluzion said:

That's fine if they don't want to release them, but they've already been paid for. So just refund me the difference between analog and digital for each vinyl that I paid for and I'm good.

That’s a reasonable request. 

TOTALLY reasonable, and I'd be completely okay with that as well (although technically, digital members are supposed to get a fan club download once a year as well, so they're still "owed" a single too, albeit in a different format.) And that's been my point since I started this thread. Admittedly, I've been having a little fun with it by being somewhat snarky and seemingly more upset about than I truly am, but the fundamental point still holds true - $80 for 2 years of membership, where I didn't get those years' singles, Deep magazines, no shows anywhere near me I could have even hoped to attend...really nothing more for $80 than 2 poor quality t-shirts and the opportunity to buy MORE exclusive merch. It's not unreasonable to expect SOMETHING be delivered after 2 years, or refunded the amount paid accordingly. Maybe 25-30% of membership fee at least.

mace1229

drummerboy_73 said:

on2legs said:

disilluzion said:

That's fine if they don't want to release them, but they've already been paid for. So just refund me the difference between analog and digital for each vinyl that I paid for and I'm good.

That’s a reasonable request. 

TOTALLY reasonable, and I'd be completely okay with that as well (although technically, digital members are supposed to get a fan club download once a year as well, so they're still "owed" a single too, albeit in a different format.) And that's been my point since I started this thread. Admittedly, I've been having a little fun with it by being somewhat snarky and seemingly more upset about than I truly am, but the fundamental point still holds true - $80 for 2 years of membership, where I didn't get those years' singles, Deep magazines, no shows anywhere near me I could have even hoped to attend...really nothing more for $80 than 2 poor quality t-shirts and the opportunity to buy MORE exclusive merch. It's not unreasonable to expect SOMETHING be delivered after 2 years, or refunded the amount paid accordingly. Maybe 25-30% of membership fee at least.

I agree. A partial refund wouldn't really be fair as you pointed out the digital members were supposed to get something too.  And part of an analog membership is still a digital single, so just not delivering and a partial refund wouldn't be right. They just need to deliver on what we paid for over 2 years ago or a full refund at this point honestly. 

PSUS2H

What if they released the Murphys Bleachers stuff as one of the singles?  That'd be rad! Benny rehearsals, SNL rehearsals, something from Ohana, a few more tracks from PJ20....so much to consider. 

Abe Froman

PSUS2H said:

What if they released the Murphys Bleachers stuff as one of the singles?  That'd be rad! Benny rehearsals, SNL rehearsals, something from Ohana, a few more tracks from PJ20....so much to consider. 

Agreed. They could totally give us something awesome. So much stuff out there they could put out on these singles. Hopefully they put a little time and thought into these last two. How about a bside?  We all know they have leftover stuff from the avocado and backspacer sessions. Or I love the idea of the Murphy rooftop performance 

HughFreakingDillon

if it has to be live stuff, yes, do the murphy rooftop stuff. other than that, I would much prefer studio stuff, even if it's a demo. 

Lost In Ohio

The rooftop stuff would be fantastic. I'm sure there's various things related to rights issues with SNL and all that, but if there isn't, that would be good too.

Even a song or two from Randall's Island would be enjoyable.

ikiT

HughFreakingDillon said:

if it has to be live stuff, yes, do the murphy rooftop stuff. other than that, I would much prefer studio stuff, even if it's a demo. 

I'd listen...

dcp3y

The rest of the RnR HoF induction performances is another consideration.

Dead Man Walking

Throw 'Cold Confessions' and 'Let It Ride' on one, put 'Turn The Corner' and 'Anything In Between' on another make the artwork look alternate to their respected albums (or hell, put them on a double gatefold like the 95 single) and voila, not only do you have arguably the best annual single(s) ever, you already have the content and art to do it. 

HughFreakingDillon

what is Turn The Corner?

edit: wow, I just googled this. a PJ track I never knew about!!!

edit 2: what is the "discontinued wagon project" that is in the description for this on youtube?

RS151862

HughFreakingDillon said:

edit 2: what is the "discontinued wagon project" that is in the description for this on youtube?

Probably some fan made compilation of all those Binaural improvs. 

mfc2006

Dead Man Walking said:

Throw 'Cold Confessions' and 'Let It Ride' on one, put 'Turn The Corner' and 'Anything In Between' on another make the artwork look alternate to their respected albums (or hell, put them on a double gatefold like the 95 single) and voila, not only do you have arguably the best annual single(s) ever, you already have the content and art to do it. 

Works for me!

Spiritual_Chaos

I've never understood how songs can leak.

bluesuedeitzrad

I am guessing I am not the first person to say this, but re-releasing Vault #1 as the long overdue 2016 fan club single would be stellar.

HesCalledDyer

bluesuedeitzrad said:

I am guessing I am not the first person to say this, but re-releasing Vault #1 as the long overdue 2016 fan club single would be stellar.

2017, but I totally agree on concept! Hell I’d take a CD copy at this point but vinyl would be killer!

HughFreakingDillon

bluesuedeitzrad said:

I am guessing I am not the first person to say this, but re-releasing Vault #1 as the long overdue 2016 fan club single would be stellar.

I'd prefer, as many others have said, something we don't have access to already. 

PSUS2H

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

Someone who works at the studio it was recorded at?  Someone at the label?  Who knows I don't understand it either, it feels like a violation of the band. 

HughFreakingDillon

PSUS2H said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

Someone who works at the studio it was recorded at?  Someone at the label?  Who knows I don't understand it either, it feels like a violation of the band. 

sometimes band members themselves do it, in cases where there was a dispute about their contract, and the record company refuses to release music the band wants to, so they do it themselves as a fuck you to their record company. 

Tim Simmons

I think the most common way is tracks or CDs are given to friends and inevitably a friend of a friend borrows it and that may keep going and then someone ends up with a Disc or file and just uploads it. 

Tim Simmons

1-2 tracks getting out I'm sure is pretty common, its crazy how full albums or album sessions get out there. DMB has had 3 albums worth of material leak the way I said above. THATS nuts.

my_wave

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

I've never understood how they can be leaked and yet still never be officially released in any way, like on a vinyl single for example...

PSUS2H

HughFreakingDillon said:

PSUS2H said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

Someone who works at the studio it was recorded at?  Someone at the label?  Who knows I don't understand it either, it feels like a violation of the band. 

sometimes band members themselves do it, in cases where there was a dispute about their contract, and the record company refuses to release music the band wants to, so they do it themselves as a fuck you to their record company. 

Lots of speculation that Trent Reznor did that many years ago...

Spiritual_Chaos

PSUS2H said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PSUS2H said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

Someone who works at the studio it was recorded at?  Someone at the label?  Who knows I don't understand it either, it feels like a violation of the band. 

sometimes band members themselves do it, in cases where there was a dispute about their contract, and the record company refuses to release music the band wants to, so they do it themselves as a fuck you to their record company. 

Lots of speculation that Trent Reznor did that many years ago...

What did he leak?

PSUS2H

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PSUS2H said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PSUS2H said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I've never understood how songs can leak.

Someone who works at the studio it was recorded at?  Someone at the label?  Who knows I don't understand it either, it feels like a violation of the band. 

sometimes band members themselves do it, in cases where there was a dispute about their contract, and the record company refuses to release music the band wants to, so they do it themselves as a fuck you to their record company. 

Lots of speculation that Trent Reznor did that many years ago...

What did he leak?

He leaked Year Zero before it dropped. 2006 and 2013 it is believe that he leaked the Broken video, he leaked about 400gbs of HD videos footage from three diffrent lights in the sky tour, and if you look up NIN Seeds he is assumed to have uploaded a few different playlists to a torrent site.  I'm sure there's more that I'm not thinking of. 

my_wave

Trent gave away an entire album for free, a true artist