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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,824
    Annafalk said:
    So also the native Americans and the MAGA youths are being verbally attacked by that other religious group?
    This is what happens when different groups with different ideologies are protesting on the same place.
    It’s hard to understand videos like this when you don’t have the whole story.  Everyone in the video should be able to tell their view on what happened, not only one.
    This is what happens when a group of entitled white kids take a trip to the “big city” and respond like a group of entitled white kids. 
    They had a black kid with them and he was told that his "organs would be sold" by the Jewish group that was there so I think every ethnic group has offended or been offended...
    Yeah they called that kid the N-word.  The Black Israelites.  It's clear to me who are the biggest losers in this mess.  And there were a lot of losers!
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  • Annafalk said:
    So also the native Americans and the MAGA youths are being verbally attacked by that other religious group?
    This is what happens when different groups with different ideologies are protesting on the same place.
    It’s hard to understand videos like this when you don’t have the whole story.  Everyone in the video should be able to tell their view on what happened, not only one.
    This is what happens when a group of entitled white kids take a trip to the “big city” and respond like a group of entitled white kids. 
    They had a black kid with them and he was told that his "organs would be sold" by the Jewish group that was there so I think every ethnic group has offended or been offended...
    Yeah they called that kid the N-word.  The Black Israelites.  It's clear to me who are the biggest losers in this mess.  And there were a lot of losers!
    Everybody sucks nowadays...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited January 2019
    I watched the WHOLE video - all 1 hour 46 minutes of it (the kids don't factor in for the first hour or more). There was no Jewish group there at all as far as I can tell. They were nut job racist Christians who think there are race wars in America's near future. They do keep calling themselves the "children of Israel", but they are praising Jesus.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    I watched the WHOLE video - all 1 hour 46 minutes of it (the kids don't factor in for the first hour or more). There was no Jewish group there at all as far as I can tell. They were nut job racist Christians who think there are race wars in America's near future. They do keep calling themselves the "children of Israel", but they are praising Jesus.
    God bless you.

    What other nuggets did you uncover?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,663
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I watched the WHOLE video - all 1 hour 46 minutes of it (the kids don't factor in for the first hour or more). There was no Jewish group there at all as far as I can tell. They were nut job racist Christians who think there are race wars in America's near future. They do keep calling themselves the "children of Israel", but they are praising Jesus.
    God bless you.

    What other nuggets did you uncover?
    Well, here is the blow by blow synopsis, lol.

    This crazy "Christian" loudmouth was with I think 4 other people, but he was the mouthpiece for this little ragtag gang of religious misfits, lol. The others mostly stayed quiet. He was just standing in the middle of the square shouting hateful religious and political nonsense to anyone who happened to be walking by or standing in the general vicinity. He was basically the political equivalent of one of those people dressed in rags on a street corner holding up a sign about how the world is ending and to repent, babbling about end of days. A few people tried to engage/debate him, but he was just spewing such hateful, vile garbage that very few had the patience to engage for any amount of time (he was sexist, homophobic, racist, you name it, and at the same time hating on Trump and the Catholic Church, and both major political parties and everyone who support either one - he literally hates EVERYONE, lol). He was particularly disgusting when this women tried to engage. He and his buddies was SO fucking sexist towards her. Meanwhile, this group of teenagers were slowly gathering way in the background. As that group grew, more of them seemed to start taking note of what this crackpot was yelling about, although they just seemed amused, like "look at the clown over there" kind of attitude, which seemed appropriate. 

    Eventually, when the crowd of teens got big enough, the loudmouth turned around and started yelling in their direction - he finally realized maybe he had an audience that wasn't going to walk away any time soon. He kind of started raving at them. Once the group of teens realized that THEY had an audience in this crazy ranting freak, THEY started acting up. At first they kind of took the ranting for what it was - stupid crap. They were kind of laughing it off, though they obviously didn't agree with this guy's racist or homophobic slurs and other insults. They were basically acting like normal people do when confronted by a raving lunatic on the street: not taking it seriously. However, things suddenly took a turn when, in an almost organic or telepathic kind of way, the entire group of teens turned into an aggressive mob. It was a strange transition. They went from normal people to aggressive fucking douchebags in a matter of seconds. Yes, it was indeed TOXIC MASCULINITY. They suddenly started this kind of chest thumping chant, which I guess they all got from cheering on their sports teams at school. Then some ridiculous kid broke from the crowd and started tearing all his clothes off as his classmates cheered and got really riled up. They continued to chant in this super off-putting aggressive way, some literally pounding their chests (the crazy man referenced cavemen, and that was a rather apt comment). This behaviour really gave the loudmouth some material to work with - his insults became somewhat more intense. The teens really opened themselves up to criticism when they started acting like that, but still, the crazy man was just spewing mostly manic garbage.

    So there is this big crowd of teens getting all aggressive and very loud and into the mob mentality, while this crazy man and his four friends just stood there, loudmouth continuing to yell bad things, such as how all of them were fixing to be school shooters because they are white and male and had on MAGA hats. The crowd started moving towards the few men, and it definitely started getting physically intimidating - it was probably 100 on 5 after all. At one point an adult who was with the kids tried to tell them to move back, but didn't try very hard at all to diffuse the mounting tension (I will say that the adults with these kids FAILED as chaperones in a BIG way). This is about when the man with the drum came along. He obviously spotted that this situation had suddenly escalated into a big aggressive mob moving towards 5 crazy men, so he stepped between the two parties playing his drum. I personally think his peaceful intentions were very clear. The teenaged mob then quickly and completely surrounded the drummer (seeming to forget about the crazy guy altogether), and they were hyped up, and started, from what I could tell, mocking the Native guy by gleefully chanting like Natives to the beat of the drum, and laughing and stuff. If I had been that guy with the drum, I definitely would have been worried. So this is when we come to the kid with the most smug mug on the face of the planet, lol. Just standing there grinning like that, in that scene, 100% YES that kid was being a little piece of arrogant shit in the face of this peacemaker. Absolutely. What I can't understand is WHY in the world the kids reacted to the drummer like that. I think they were all just swept up in a spontaneous and pointless display of aggression that, frankly, they mostly created themselves.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I watched the WHOLE video - all 1 hour 46 minutes of it (the kids don't factor in for the first hour or more). There was no Jewish group there at all as far as I can tell. They were nut job racist Christians who think there are race wars in America's near future. They do keep calling themselves the "children of Israel", but they are praising Jesus.
    God bless you.

    What other nuggets did you uncover?
    Well, here is the blow by blow synopsis, lol.

    This crazy "Christian" loudmouth was with I think 4 other people, but he was the mouthpiece for this little ragtag gang of religious misfits, lol. The others mostly stayed quiet. He was just standing in the middle of the square shouting hateful religious and political nonsense to anyone who happened to be walking by or standing in the general vicinity. He was basically the political equivalent of one of those people dressed in rags on a street corner holding up a sign about how the world is ending and to repent, babbling about end of days. A few people tried to engage/debate him, but he was just spewing such hateful, vile garbage that very few had the patience to engage for any amount of time (he was sexist, homophobic, racist, you name it, and at the same time hating on Trump and the Catholic Church, and both major political parties and everyone who support either one - he literally hates EVERYONE, lol). He was particularly disgusting when this women tried to engage. He and his buddies was SO fucking sexist towards her. Meanwhile, this group of teenagers were slowly gathering way in the background. As that group grew, more of them seemed to start taking note of what this crackpot was yelling about, although they just seemed amused, like "look at the clown over there" kind of attitude, which seemed appropriate. 

    Eventually, when the crowd of teens got big enough, the loudmouth turned around and started yelling in their direction - he finally realized maybe he had an audience that wasn't going to walk away any time soon. He kind of started raving at them. Once the group of teens realized that THEY had an audience in this crazy ranting freak, THEY started acting up. At first they kind of took the ranting for what it was - stupid crap. They were kind of laughing it off, though they obviously didn't agree with this guy's racist or homophobic slurs and other insults. They were basically acting like normal people do when confronted by a raving lunatic on the street: not taking it seriously. However, things suddenly took a turn when, in an almost organic or telepathic kind of way, the entire group of teens turned into an aggressive mob. It was a strange transition. They went from normal people to aggressive fucking douchebags in a matter of seconds. Yes, it was indeed TOXIC MASCULINITY. They suddenly started this kind of chest thumping chant, which I guess they all got from cheering on their sports teams at school. Then some ridiculous kid broke from the crowd and started tearing all his clothes off as his classmates cheered and got really riled up. They continued to chant in this super off-putting aggressive way, some literally pounding their chests (the crazy man referenced cavemen, and that was a rather apt comment). This behaviour really gave the loudmouth some material to work with - his insults became somewhat more intense. The teens really opened themselves up to criticism when they started acting like that, but still, the crazy man was just spewing mostly manic garbage.

    So there is this big crowd of teens getting all aggressive and very loud and into the mob mentality, while this crazy man and his four friends just stood there, loudmouth continuing to yell bad things, such as how all of them were fixing to be school shooters because they are white and male and had on MAGA hats. The crowd started moving towards the few men, and it definitely started getting physically intimidating - it was probably 100 on 5 after all. At one point an adult who was with the kids tried to tell them to move back, but didn't try very hard at all to diffuse the mounting tension (I will say that the adults with these kids FAILED as chaperones in a BIG way). This is about when the man with the drum came along. He obviously spotted that this situation had suddenly escalated into a big aggressive mob moving towards 5 crazy men, so he stepped between the two parties playing his drum. I personally think his peaceful intentions were very clear. The teenaged mob then quickly and completely surrounded the drummer (seeming to forget about the crazy guy altogether), and they were hyped up, and started, from what I could tell, mocking the Native guy by gleefully chanting like Natives to the beat of the drum, and laughing and stuff. If I had been that guy with the drum, I definitely would have been worried. So this is when we come to the kid with the most smug mug on the face of the planet, lol. Just standing there grinning like that, in that scene, 100% YES that kid was being a little piece of arrogant shit in the face of this peacemaker. Absolutely. What I can't understand is WHY in the world the kids reacted to the drummer like that. I think they were all just swept up in a spontaneous and pointless display of aggression that, frankly, they mostly created themselves.
    I'm sorry, I can't handle large brain purge blobs in text. Maybe you could make a YouTube reaction video to you watching the video that I could follow along with? Make sure you exaggerate your facial expressions for dramatic effect too. I'd enjoy that best.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Those Catholic boys all need to have their hands smacked by Mother Mary's ruler about 1000 times.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,824
    1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    CM189191 said:
    One kid said it, come on. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    One kid said it, come on. 
    Yeah, boys will be boys. He didn't mean it. He's a stupid insecure teenager trying to impress his friends. We all did it...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191 said:
    Can't wait for the next obscure video.

    People suck no matter what...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    One kid said it, come on. 
    Yeah, boys will be boys. He didn't mean it. He's a stupid insecure teenager trying to impress his friends. We all did it...
    I'm not defending what he said but one kid said it, not the whole school.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
    I noticed he was decked out in Bengals attire so he obviously has a lot of underlying issues...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,824
    tbergs said:
    1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
    I noticed he was decked out in Bengals attire so he obviously has a lot of underlying issues...
     No shit. Nice try. I was born in Pittsburgh. Cincy for college ;)
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  • CM189191 said:
    Send your daughters over after they’ve had their two hours of the keg all to themselves. They’ll be fine, no worries.
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  • 1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
    Where do you get off on “all” kids? No, just those smug catholic kids from Kentucky. You know the ones, right? From Covington Catholic or prep or whatever school they’re from. You know, the ones in the video, on the news, the one who had a lawyer write his “innocence “ statement. The only one saying “all” is you. And as such, you’re dismissing their behavior, making excuses. Down playing. Mocking the kids who don’t do this shit. Typical.
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  • cincybearcat
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    1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
    Where do you get off on “all” kids? No, just those smug catholic kids from Kentucky. You know the ones, right? From Covington Catholic or prep or whatever school they’re from. You know, the ones in the video, on the news, the one who had a lawyer write his “innocence “ statement. The only one saying “all” is you. And as such, you’re dismissing their behavior, making excuses. Down playing. Mocking the kids who don’t do this shit. Typical.
    No. And you’ve read what I said. I’ve not excused the behavior of the people that have done stuff. 

    Ive watched hours of video and developed my opinion. I’m tired of overreacting online assholes. 
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  • Smellyman
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    some mental gymnastics trying to defend these shitheads
  • 1 kid says something really stupid...all kids = monsters. Seems right. 
    Where do you get off on “all” kids? No, just those smug catholic kids from Kentucky. You know the ones, right? From Covington Catholic or prep or whatever school they’re from. You know, the ones in the video, on the news, the one who had a lawyer write his “innocence “ statement. The only one saying “all” is you. And as such, you’re dismissing their behavior, making excuses. Down playing. Mocking the kids who don’t do this shit. Typical.
    No. And you’ve read what I said. I’ve not excused the behavior of the people that have done stuff. 

    Ive watched hours of video and developed my opinion. I’m tired of overreacting online assholes. 
    But you compared 1 asshole who said something shitty Now “represents all kids,” when nobody but you said that?
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