so because he was also manipulated and probably confused/conflicted because of his relationship with RA, that makes him spineless?
No, but his statement seems to scream “ me, me, me” and he’s not a victim whatsoever in this case. Another musician that had worked around him released a statement with similar experiences and came off much more tactful and sympathetic.
so because he was also manipulated and probably confused/conflicted because of his relationship with RA, that makes him spineless?
No, but his statement seems to scream “ me, me, me” and he’s not a victim whatsoever in this case. Another musician that had worked around him released a statement with similar experiences and came off much more tactful and sympathetic.
he's not a sexual victim, no, but whenever you have a strong association with someone who is outed as being a freak/perv/pedo/etc, you inevitably get cast as some type of weirdo by association. people look at you funny, like "how did you not know, and if you did, FUCK YOU". there's no winning here for these people.
I'm not sure pointing fingers at RA's associates is the right move here.
so because he was also manipulated and probably confused/conflicted because of his relationship with RA, that makes him spineless?
No, but his statement seems to scream “ me, me, me” and he’s not a victim whatsoever in this case. Another musician that had worked around him released a statement with similar experiences and came off much more tactful and sympathetic.
he's not a sexual victim, no, but whenever you have a strong association with someone who is outed as being a freak/perv/pedo/etc, you inevitably get cast as some type of weirdo by association. people look at you funny, like "how did you not know, and if you did, FUCK YOU". there's no winning here for these people.
I'm not sure pointing fingers at RA's associates is the right move here.
Definitely agree.
Narcissists/Manipulators fool everyone around them, not just young people they prey upon.
Adams has left a lot of broken people in his wake; including ex-wives, ex-bandmates and fooled fans.
The underage stuff is disgusting and sick for sure. And that is what will probably put him in jail, or court at least. He has messed with a lot more people from whom he hid this shit It's amazing that he was even caught. Narcissists usually get away with fooling people for a long long time.
The ex-wives and ex-girl friends were probably abused the worst our of everyone but there is unfortunately no easy way to prosecute someone for ruining your life.
Just got cancelled Big Colors pax an e-mail. Says due to “unforeseen circumstances” that it’s been cancelled. What a bullshit thing to put. That’s when it’s best not to put anything.
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He's insane if he continues on with this tour. He needs to go away for a couple of years and reassess where he's at if in his life. Has he learned from this? Has he owned up to what he has done in the past? Now is not the time for this.
He's insane if he continues on with this tour. He needs to go away for a couple of years and reassess where he's at if in his life. Has he learned from this? Has he owned up to what he has done in the past? Now is not the time for this.
He's insane if he continues on with this tour. He needs to go away for a couple of years and reassess where he's at if in his life. Has he learned from this? Has he owned up to what he has done in the past? Now is not the time for this.
I agree.
Is he going to be on suicide watch while he's over there?
He's insane if he continues on with this tour. He needs to go away for a couple of years and reassess where he's at if in his life. Has he learned from this? Has he owned up to what he has done in the past? Now is not the time for this.
Guess he's gonna plow through it and hope people get tired of screaming, give up and forget
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He's insane if he continues on with this tour. He needs to go away for a couple of years and reassess where he's at if in his life. Has he learned from this? Has he owned up to what he has done in the past? Now is not the time for this.
I agree.
Is he going to be on suicide watch while he's over there?
I also agree, and good question. Perhaps that will depend on how bad the hecklers are.
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He has a right to make a living but I hope he’s dealing with his issues. Though his judgement could obviously use some work.
What is up with the investigation? If he was a serious threat they wouldn't let him leave the country.
I doubt he would be seen as a serious threat in any case. He's a musician who sexted with one teenager a few years ago, as far as anyone can tell at least. It's not exactly going to be on the FBI's top 10 things to do list, you know what I mean? He's not a flight risk, so I doubt anyone sees a reason to stop him from touring. I personally just think it seems like a bad idea for him. Risky PR move for sure. It could also definitely be bad for his mental health if things don't go well. I can't imagine he won't be confronted throughout the tour about this.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He has a right to make a living but I hope he’s dealing with his issues. Though his judgement could obviously use some work.
What is up with the investigation? If he was a serious threat they wouldn't let him leave the country.
I doubt he would be seen as a serious threat in any case. He's a musician who sexted with one teenager a few years ago, as far as anyone can tell at least. It's not exactly going to be on the FBI's top 10 things to do list, you know what I mean? He's not a flight risk, so I doubt anyone sees a reason to stop him from touring. I personally just think it seems like a bad idea for him. Risky PR move for sure. It could also definitely be bad for his mental health if things don't go well. I can't imagine he won't be confronted throughout the tour about this.
Leaving the country is "flight" that's why I mentioned it. I'm surprised he would be allowed to leave the country?
He has a right to make a living but I hope he’s dealing with his issues. Though his judgement could obviously use some work.
What is up with the investigation? If he was a serious threat they wouldn't let him leave the country.
I doubt he would be seen as a serious threat in any case. He's a musician who sexted with one teenager a few years ago, as far as anyone can tell at least. It's not exactly going to be on the FBI's top 10 things to do list, you know what I mean? He's not a flight risk, so I doubt anyone sees a reason to stop him from touring. I personally just think it seems like a bad idea for him. Risky PR move for sure. It could also definitely be bad for his mental health if things don't go well. I can't imagine he won't be confronted throughout the tour about this.
He'll probably do the first show and decide from there. If the majority of people show up, he'll continue. If it's a shitshow, he'll cancel.
They may also be waiting to see how many people demand refunds.
He has a right to make a living but I hope he’s dealing with his issues. Though his judgement could obviously use some work.
What is up with the investigation? If he was a serious threat they wouldn't let him leave the country.
I doubt he would be seen as a serious threat in any case. He's a musician who sexted with one teenager a few years ago, as far as anyone can tell at least. It's not exactly going to be on the FBI's top 10 things to do list, you know what I mean? He's not a flight risk, so I doubt anyone sees a reason to stop him from touring. I personally just think it seems like a bad idea for him. Risky PR move for sure. It could also definitely be bad for his mental health if things don't go well. I can't imagine he won't be confronted throughout the tour about this.
Leaving the country is "flight" that's why I mentioned it. I'm surprised he would be allowed to leave the country?
He is just dealing with investigation and allegation at this point. He hasn't been indicted. He can go wherever he pleases.
He has a right to make a living but I hope he’s dealing with his issues. Though his judgement could obviously use some work.
What is up with the investigation? If he was a serious threat they wouldn't let him leave the country.
I doubt he would be seen as a serious threat in any case. He's a musician who sexted with one teenager a few years ago, as far as anyone can tell at least. It's not exactly going to be on the FBI's top 10 things to do list, you know what I mean? He's not a flight risk, so I doubt anyone sees a reason to stop him from touring. I personally just think it seems like a bad idea for him. Risky PR move for sure. It could also definitely be bad for his mental health if things don't go well. I can't imagine he won't be confronted throughout the tour about this.
Leaving the country is "flight" that's why I mentioned it. I'm surprised he would be allowed to leave the country?
No, I mean not a flight risk, as in he isn't planning on not coming back to America after the tour to avoid future prosecution. And like Nancy said, he hasn't been charged with anything yet.
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The last place he needs to be right now is in front of an audience. Even if (and it's a pretty big 'if' at this point) say half of the crowd were there as fans, can you imagine the abuse he would take from the other half? There would be so many people there just to goad him and push him to see if he breaks down or lashes out or, worse still, says something to put himself even deeper in the shit. It would be a complete car crash of a tour.
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I'm not sure pointing fingers at RA's associates is the right move here.
Cheers,
HFD
Narcissists/Manipulators fool everyone around them, not just young people they prey upon.
Adams has left a lot of broken people in his wake; including ex-wives, ex-bandmates and fooled fans.
The underage stuff is disgusting and sick for sure. And that is what will probably put him in jail, or court at least. He has messed with a lot more people from whom he hid this shit It's amazing that he was even caught. Narcissists usually get away with fooling people for a long long time.
The ex-wives and ex-girl friends were probably abused the worst our of everyone but there is unfortunately no easy way to prosecute someone for ruining your life.
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