Ryan Adams 2019

goldrush

mfc2006 said:

I'm unloading all of my Ryan Adams records. I know that we don't know the "full story" yet, but I know enough to stop listening to his albums regardless of how much I like his music. 

Not sure about unloading them - who the hell is going to take them now?
I feel like smashing the Carnegie Hall set with a rock...

njnancy

goldrush said:

mfc2006 said:

I'm unloading all of my Ryan Adams records. I know that we don't know the "full story" yet, but I know enough to stop listening to his albums regardless of how much I like his music. 

Not sure about unloading them - who the hell is going to take them now?
I feel like smashing the Carnegie Hall set with a rock...

The money has already gone to him and whomever else gets a cut so I don't see why you would smash the albums. Perhaps you'll be able to listen to the music someday without thinking about the asshat singing? Maybe wait till the extreme anger of the situation passes and then make a decision. 

It's a shame to have to lose something that you purchased and enjoyed when you guys did nothing wrong. 

goldrush

njnancy said:

goldrush said:

mfc2006 said:

I'm unloading all of my Ryan Adams records. I know that we don't know the "full story" yet, but I know enough to stop listening to his albums regardless of how much I like his music. 

Not sure about unloading them - who the hell is going to take them now?
I feel like smashing the Carnegie Hall set with a rock...

The money has already gone to him and whomever else gets a cut so I don't see why you would smash the albums. Perhaps you'll be able to listen to the music someday without thinking about the asshat singing? Maybe wait till the extreme anger of the situation passes and then make a decision. 

It's a shame to have to lose something that you purchased and enjoyed when you guys did nothing wrong. 

Yeah, I don't think I'd have it in me to actually smash any vinyl, no matter the reasons behind it! As I said a couple of pages back there may be a chance I'll want to listen to some of it way, way down the line. 

I've been following the thread on the tobeyoung fan forum and the anger rises and falls depending on the posts. The more people that come out and make statements, the sadder it is (for them, not RA). I keep thinking that I don't want to see any more people come forward, purely because I don't want there to be any more victims. I'm sure there's a long way to go though, unfortunately. 

I really need some new PJ right about now!

2-feign-reluctance

Another reason I love Pearl Jam. Men of integrity. Authentic to a fault. 

2-feign-reluctance

Trash day is Wednesday. Bought a bunch of his back catalogue over the summer last year. Gonna be quite a pile. 

2-feign-reluctance

Anyone able to get a refund from Pax Am on the Big Colors pre-order? 

mfc2006

2-feign-reluctance said:

Anyone able to get a refund from Pax Am on the Big Colors pre-order? 

I did. I emailed them asking if they were canceling/postponing the album before it was announced. They responded by saying that my order of the splatter LP has been canceled. The refund hit my account today.

mfc2006

njnancy said:

goldrush said:

mfc2006 said:

I'm unloading all of my Ryan Adams records. I know that we don't know the "full story" yet, but I know enough to stop listening to his albums regardless of how much I like his music. 

Not sure about unloading them - who the hell is going to take them now?
I feel like smashing the Carnegie Hall set with a rock...

The money has already gone to him and whomever else gets a cut so I don't see why you would smash the albums. Perhaps you'll be able to listen to the music someday without thinking about the asshat singing? Maybe wait till the extreme anger of the situation passes and then make a decision. 

It's a shame to have to lose something that you purchased and enjoyed when you guys did nothing wrong. 

I’m getting rid of them. I have the MP3’s if I ever decide to revisit them. 

njnancy

mfc2006 said:

njnancy said:

goldrush said:

mfc2006 said:

I'm unloading all of my Ryan Adams records. I know that we don't know the "full story" yet, but I know enough to stop listening to his albums regardless of how much I like his music. 

Not sure about unloading them - who the hell is going to take them now?
I feel like smashing the Carnegie Hall set with a rock...

The money has already gone to him and whomever else gets a cut so I don't see why you would smash the albums. Perhaps you'll be able to listen to the music someday without thinking about the asshat singing? Maybe wait till the extreme anger of the situation passes and then make a decision. 

It's a shame to have to lose something that you purchased and enjoyed when you guys did nothing wrong. 

I’m getting rid of them. I have the MP3’s if I ever decide to revisit them. 

i respect that. 

LukinFan

mfc2006 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Anyone able to get a refund from Pax Am on the Big Colors pre-order? 

I did. I emailed them asking if they were canceling/postponing the album before it was announced. They responded by saying that my order of the splatter LP has been canceled. The refund hit my account today.

Yeah, I emailed them too and received a similar response shortly afterward. 

DewieCox

Have more victims came out or just people that enabled him and are now free to pile on now that there are no repercussions? 

Tim Simmons

No one new since Leah Hayes.

Tim Simmons

But on the NYT podcast where the reporters were interviewed, they revealed this has been in the works for 5 months and that Ryan had been watching "ava" on youtube and some of her YouTubs were labeled "Amazing 14 year old Bass virtuoso". So he fucking knew. 

njnancy

Tim Simmons said:

But on the NYT podcast where the reporters were interviewed, they revealed this has been in the works for 5 months and that Ryan had been watching "ava" on youtube and some of her YouTubs were labeled "Amazing 14 year old Bass virtuoso". So he fucking knew. 

I thought it was 5 years they'd been working on it, my bad.

The continuing sadness is that of course he knew, she must have been thrilled when he started complimenting her and now she doesn't play the bass at all anymore. Who knows where she would have gone with her talent. Those are the worst effects of this sort of predatory shit. Loss of interest in what once made you who you were. 

LukinFan

Anyone listen to the new Mandy Moore WTF interview? It was done a couple of weeks ago (posted yesterday) but Maron still brings up Ryan Adams and they talk a little bit about it. Maron also interviewed Adams, but that was a couple of years ago. 

http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-995-mandy-moore

rw160510

I'm currently waiting to hear about refunds for his UK tour. The venue in Cambridge is waiting for the promoter to release a statement. Definitely not going and don't want to support him at this point.

tempo_n_groove

LukinFan said:

Anyone listen to the new Mandy Moore WTF interview? It was done a couple of weeks ago (posted yesterday) but Maron still brings up Ryan Adams and they talk a little bit about it. Maron also interviewed Adams, but that was a couple of years ago. 

http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-995-mandy-moore

He's a difficult person to date, I get that.

It's the 14yo thing that I have a huge problem with.

2-feign-reluctance

Abusive, and manipulative. Personality disordered if I'm making my arm chair diagnosis. Of course, any one with early childhood abandonment comes away with some warped ways of attaching to others. No better example than threatening suicide if he wasn't called back or attended to immediately. Difficult to date? Not the word I would use, but I get it.

HughFreakingDillon

never heard a ryan adams song in my life to my knowledge. 

HughFreakingDillon

DewieCox said:

Tim Simmons said:

Spineless

who, his guitarist?