Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Twitter used to be so much better than FB. It started getting worse a year or so ago and now it seems to be going down the tubes.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
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I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
He did say that, but when it came down to it, it has been confirmed by those working with him during his campaign that he literally wasn't expecting to win more than 15% of the vote, and no intention of actually winning at all. When he did it came as a shock to him and everyone around him (as well as a sense of doom for the majority of people working on his campaign). He of course took the ball and ran with it, but he was definitely not intending to win that election when he announced. He was intending to use his run for financial gain by getting his foot further in the door.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
Have you ever known Donald Trump to be someone who may fudge the truth from time to time?
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
Have you ever known Donald Trump to be someone who may fudge the truth from time to time?
But what's bigger, his ability to fudge the truth or his ego?
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
Have you ever known Donald Trump to be someone who may fudge the truth from time to time?
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
He did say that, but when it came down to it, it has been confirmed by those working with him during his campaign that he literally wasn't expecting to win more than 15% of the vote, and no intention of actually winning at all. When he did it came as a shock to him and everyone around him (as well as a sense of doom for the majority of people working on his campaign). He of course took the ball and ran with it, but he was definitely not intending to win that election when he announced. He was intending to use his run for financial gain by getting his foot further in the door.
It wasn't the first time right? He ran like 3-4 times before I thought. It would be shocking if he and his team thought he could win. I wonder when the turning point was at some it became more realistic. Still hard to believe thinking back to it.
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
Have you ever known Donald Trump to be someone who may fudge the truth from time to time?
Only when his lips are moving.
So you believed all his Tweets?
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
He did say that, but when it came down to it, it has been confirmed by those working with him during his campaign that he literally wasn't expecting to win more than 15% of the vote, and no intention of actually winning at all. When he did it came as a shock to him and everyone around him (as well as a sense of doom for the majority of people working on his campaign). He of course took the ball and ran with it, but he was definitely not intending to win that election when he announced. He was intending to use his run for financial gain by getting his foot further in the door.
It wasn't the first time right? He ran like 3-4 times before I thought. It would be shocking if he and his team thought he could win. I wonder when the turning point was at some it became more realistic. Still hard to believe thinking back to it.
He technically ran once before as a Reform party candidate in 2000. Dropped out in the primaries as it was likely he was going to lose to Pat Buchannan. He hadn't quite mastered the "they stole it from me" move by that point.
wow. all this because people dunked on him on the internet for being what he is. an incompetent businessman with far right politics.
Some people believe Obama's dig at Trump in like 2011 led to his running for president.
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
Very possible. But I still don't think tRump thought he would win in 2016. It was all a marketing ploy.
I've seen video of Trump going back 20+ years saying if he ever runs he'd win. I think he believed it. I don't think he would have run if he didn't think he was going to win.
Have you ever known Donald Trump to be someone who may fudge the truth from time to time?
Only when his lips are moving.
So you believed all his Tweets?
I'm sure he's the type who mouths every word as he either types or reads.
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich.
I gave it 2 thumbs up as it was a thoughtful and erudite contribution to the discourse.
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Twitter used to be so much better than FB. It started getting worse a year or so ago and now it seems to be going down the tubes.
I will counter that it was never better, just that you perceived it to be. It is the same thing it always was. Nothing has changed since but the owner, the previous owners were just better at concealing how putrid it really is. Social media will be the death of western society.
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Twitter used to be so much better than FB. It started getting worse a year or so ago and now it seems to be going down the tubes.
I will counter that it was never better, just that you perceived it to be. It is the same thing it always was. Nothing has changed since but the owner, the previous owners were just better at concealing how putrid it really is. Social media will be the death of western society.
I got banned a few times... Once for calling Jill Stein an "old sea hag". Definitely stricter than FB
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich.
Well someone has got to throw some reality every once in a while at this safe space of hypocrisy and silliness. Carry on….
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,801
I dont recall folks here saying the government should get involved here.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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mickeyrat
up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,801
Opinion | To be very clear, free speech is when you give me money
Opinion by Alexandra Petri
November 30, 2022 at 7:00 ET
“This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead.” — Elon Musk, on Twitter, the social media site he owns Free speech is dying! If you don’t pay me money for my product, that means that this great country is wrecked! Wrecked on the shoals of oppression and political correctness! Free speech is when you pay me money for goods or services. That’s free speech. When you do not give me money, that is censorship. Every second that you spend not paying me money for my services is another arrow stuck into the craw of liberty. Ah, liberty bleeds, and I weep for her! Please give me thousands of dollars; it is the only thing that can save her. Even if you must give them to me in small increments of $8 at a time, that is better than nothing. I believe that if you give me enough money (speech), we can still rescue this godforsaken country! You might have thought that free speech was when a corporation gave a lot of money to a politician. This is a very, very important form of free speech, and it is getting freer all the time! But that is certainly not the only kind of speech you can make. Just as important is when you take your small-dollar amounts and press them into the hands of a billionaire, or when an advertiser does the same thing with a larger dollar amount. No, I am not taking advantage of you. I am offering to give you a voice. It is very sad that you are letting liberty die because you are refusing to give me your wallet. I can’t believe you hate free speech so much! Oh, okay, I see where there may be some slight confusion: There is the word “free,” right there, at the start of “free speech.” It almost sounds as though you didn’t need to pay for it! But this is a common misunderstanding. This is free as in “buy one, get one,” the kind of free that is only free if you have made a purchase first. Why I remember when our Founders, our brave Founders, fought so strongly and so bravely for free speech. Benjamin Franklin stood there begging and beseeching the business owners of his day to put their advertisements in his Poor Richard’s Almanac. Everyone knew then as they know today that the only true free speech is when you pay somebody money to run advertisements for your business. The Bill of Rights is absolutely clear about this. Why do you think it is called a bill if not because rights require somebody to pay money to somebody else?! And the people who do not have money? What of them? As though they had anything to say!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I remember when platforms were deplatforming people and everyone was arguing that a company is not the government and doesn't need to recognize your right to free speech, and now people want the government to reign in the private company to reign in the free speech. Here's an idea, just say no to all social media. It's garbage if they run it the way you want and it is garbage if they aren't running it the way you want. with the exception of our esteemed message board of course.
Wow, that is the nicest way to say how hypocritical most of the rotten brains are on here…well played
Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich.
Well someone has got to throw some reality every once in a while at this safe space of hypocrisy and silliness. Carry on….
It's just been such an entertaining last few weeks....just as you predicted back before the election. Nostradamus over here!
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Thin-skinned billionaires may very well be our downfall.
2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Entertaining post, Linda. Compelling and rich.
He did say that, but when it came down to it, it has been confirmed by those working with him during his campaign that he literally wasn't expecting to win more than 15% of the vote, and no intention of actually winning at all. When he did it came as a shock to him and everyone around him (as well as a sense of doom for the majority of people working on his campaign). He of course took the ball and ran with it, but he was definitely not intending to win that election when he announced. He was intending to use his run for financial gain by getting his foot further in the door.
I will never understand how trump so blatantly played so many people.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
— Elon Musk, on Twitter, the social media site he owns
Free speech is dying!
If you don’t pay me money for my product, that means that this great country is wrecked! Wrecked on the shoals of oppression and political correctness!
Free speech is when you pay me money for goods or services. That’s free speech. When you do not give me money, that is censorship. Every second that you spend not paying me money for my services is another arrow stuck into the craw of liberty. Ah, liberty bleeds, and I weep for her! Please give me thousands of dollars; it is the only thing that can save her. Even if you must give them to me in small increments of $8 at a time, that is better than nothing. I believe that if you give me enough money (speech), we can still rescue this godforsaken country!
You might have thought that free speech was when a corporation gave a lot of money to a politician. This is a very, very important form of free speech, and it is getting freer all the time! But that is certainly not the only kind of speech you can make. Just as important is when you take your small-dollar amounts and press them into the hands of a billionaire, or when an advertiser does the same thing with a larger dollar amount.
No, I am not taking advantage of you. I am offering to give you a voice. It is very sad that you are letting liberty die because you are refusing to give me your wallet. I can’t believe you hate free speech so much!
Oh, okay, I see where there may be some slight confusion: There is the word “free,” right there, at the start of “free speech.” It almost sounds as though you didn’t need to pay for it! But this is a common misunderstanding. This is free as in “buy one, get one,” the kind of free that is only free if you have made a purchase first.
Why I remember when our Founders, our brave Founders, fought so strongly and so bravely for free speech. Benjamin Franklin stood there begging and beseeching the business owners of his day to put their advertisements in his Poor Richard’s Almanac. Everyone knew then as they know today that the only true free speech is when you pay somebody money to run advertisements for your business. The Bill of Rights is absolutely clear about this. Why do you think it is called a bill if not because rights require somebody to pay money to somebody else?!
And the people who do not have money? What of them? As though they had anything to say!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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