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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,640
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    I can see how it is consider terrorism...

    "Terrorism, while lacking a universally agreed-upon definition, generally refers to the use or threat of violence to create fear and achieve political, ideological, or religious goals, often targeting civilians."


    I mean what do you think is the purpose in what people are doing?  Terrorism has a pretty broad definition.

    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,640
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,660
    How can he expect people not to react to him he’s killing jobs and laughing about it I don’t condone any violence or destruction of peoples cars, but it won’t surprise me if someone at some point doesn’t try to punch his lights out 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,660
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/02/republican-senator-jim-banks-clown/82776957007/
    Now you tell me is this the way to talk to someone who just lost their job? How does he know that individual deserves to get fired did he look at his evaluation? Fucking pathetic 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,506
    How can he expect people not to react to him he’s killing jobs and laughing about it I don’t condone any violence or destruction of peoples cars, but it won’t surprise me if someone at some point doesn’t try to punch his lights out 
    or worse...and look at this Jim Banks thing. He gets confronted and says the guy seemed like a clown so he deserved to be fired. Then he doubled down and didn't see any need to apologize. Fucking pricks
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,660
    How can he expect people not to react to him he’s killing jobs and laughing about it I don’t condone any violence or destruction of peoples cars, but it won’t surprise me if someone at some point doesn’t try to punch his lights out 
    or worse...and look at this Jim Banks thing. He gets confronted and says the guy seemed like a clown so he deserved to be fired. Then he doubled down and didn't see any need to apologize. Fucking pricks
    It’s disgusting that these folks can laugh at people’s misfortunes and basically tell them to go 🖕🏽🖕🏽off too bad you are unemployed suck it up! 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    But empathy is the downfall of western societies. So, I’m all out of empathy and fucks for Elongitaint. It’s called karma.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    But empathy is the downfall of western societies. So, I’m all out of empathy and fucks for Elongitaint. It’s called karma.
    100%
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    It's class warfare.

    The billionaires are dominating right now. And it's funny how any pee on (yes, that's what 99% of us currently are) would have an ounce of sympathy for any of these sociopaths. Especially with such frivolous stuff as hurting their brand by protesting and burning cars in lots.

    Shit is pretty tame so far.


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,661
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    Look, I’m not advocating for this, but when we think about what tools each group has in order to fight back:

    musk: unelected multi billionaire who has unchecked power to destroy the lives of literally millions of people 

    the people he’s hurting: zero power. They can’t vote him out. The courts move at a snails pace. 

    All resistances/uprisings generally start like this because it’s literally the only path. And no, it’s not comparable to Jan 6; those cry babies tried to overthrow an election cuz they lost, nothing more. No policy had even been enacted yet. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,640
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    Empathy for people burning up cars?  Seriously, that;s called immature tantrum.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,445
    Elon Musk is the fucking worst. He's coming as close as we've ever seen to buying a country. He has contempt for pretty much everyone. He is at best indifferent to (and I think takes joy from) the suffering of others.

    Torching the cars of people he doesn't know gives people a reason to show this thin-skinned, immature, greedy, heartless, contemplable narcissist sympathy. Let him dig his own grave by just being his horrible self.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,445
    I also have a friend and a cousin who bought Teslas when Elon was just an over-rated "genius." I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,139
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,854
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,139
    edited April 3
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    i see everyone is still butthurt about the teslas....

    how is tanking the stock market on purpose not a form of economic terrorism?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    edited April 3
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
    Remember last week when you were basically insinuating the Democratic party was dead.  Not a week later, they blow out the R in the only state wide election, one where Elon got on television, rallied and poured in 20MM.   I probably won't be betting on anything you say to "watch".  
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    edited April 3
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    Empathy for people burning up cars?  Seriously, that;s called immature tantrum.
    Empathy is for people who have had their lives ruined by a sociopath billionaire (or others of his ilk) and understanding why they might go to extreme measures.

  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,640
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    Empathy for people burning up cars?  Seriously, that;s called immature tantrum.
    Empathy is for people who have had their lives ruined by a sociopath billionaire (or others of his ilk) and understanding why they might go to extreme measures.

    So you are ok with anyone that gets laid off just burning shit down?  Weird.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,661
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    Empathy for people burning up cars?  Seriously, that;s called immature tantrum.
    Empathy is for people who have had their lives ruined by a sociopath billionaire (or others of his ilk) and understanding why they might go to extreme measures.

    So you are ok with anyone that gets laid off just burning shit down?  Weird.
    understanding why someone does something and being ok with it/condoning it are two wildly different things. weird indeed. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,422
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Pretty sure he stated that he would only be involved full-time for the beginning of DOGE. He'll still be a key figure in exposing and eliminating government wasteful spending from the previous admin just less in public.  Probably needs to address the insurrectionists that are burning Tesla cars and dealerships.  Reminds me of the 'peaceful" BLM movement, lol. 
    Reminds me of Jan 6

    Exactly.
     
    And as has been pointed out elsewhere, burning cars is now called "terrorism", but breaking into the capital with the intent to hang some lawmakers and beating and even causing the death of come Capitol police officers is called "patriotism".
    Riiiiiiiiight!

    Oh, and how embarrassing when people use the term "terrorism" when they mean either sabotage or vandalism.
    Riiiiiiiight!

    Brilliant.
    Regardless destroying property that isn't yours isn't cool just because you don't like someone.
    It's beyond not liking someone, this guy is destroying people's lives, and doing his best to take down democracy.

    Some people are fed up and fighting back and I completely understand.
    Honestly that is a very immature thought process.  What if everyone just resorted to that?  
    It's called empathy.
    Empathy for people burning up cars?  Seriously, that;s called immature tantrum.
    Empathy is for people who have had their lives ruined by a sociopath billionaire (or others of his ilk) and understanding why they might go to extreme measures.

    So you are ok with anyone that gets laid off just burning shit down?  Weird.
    You bet, if someone loses their livelihood on the whim of a sociopath I completely understand why they would burn a car on a lot that is symbolic to the sociopath.

    What's weird is you not understanding that.

    I'm surprised people aren't doing worse. 

    There is a reason why a kid who assassinated a healthcare CEO has so much support.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
    Remember last week when you were basically insinuating the Democratic party was dead.  Not a week later, they blow out the R in the only state wide election, one where Elon got on television, rallied and poured in 20MM.   I probably won't be betting on anything you say to "watch".  

    I guess you missed my other comment this afternoon predicting a massive income tax cut likely to be announced soon?

     Mentioning elon and orange above is referencing the budget savings and funding generated by tariffs, and what can be done with that huge level of funding. He can now reshape how the economy functions and how wealth is generated, I don’t favor that but that’s a longer comment.

    Have you done the math as to how huge of an income tax cut they can do with this? My point is Dems are too worried about protecting foreigners rights to violently protest while on student visas or in your case perhaps overestimating the impact of an off year off season low turnout election has towards the future voting power in this country in order  to prepare for what trumps next move is.

    i am making the exact same point as last week about dem messaging and you didn’t catch it.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    edited April 3
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
    Remember last week when you were basically insinuating the Democratic party was dead.  Not a week later, they blow out the R in the only state wide election, one where Elon got on television, rallied and poured in 20MM.   I probably won't be betting on anything you say to "watch".  

    I guess you missed my other comment this afternoon predicting a massive income tax cut likely to be announced soon?

     Mentioning elon and orange above is referencing the budget savings and funding generated by tariffs, and what can be done with that huge level of funding. He can now reshape how the economy functions and how wealth is generated, I don’t favor that but that’s a longer comment.

    Have you done the math as to how huge of an income tax cut they can do with this? My point is Dems are too worried about protecting foreigners rights to violently protest while on student visas or in your case perhaps overestimating the impact of an off year off season low turnout election has towards the future voting power in this country in order  to prepare for what trumps next move is.

    i am making the exact same point as last week about dem messaging and you didn’t catch it.
    Did you do the math on the other side of the equation?  How much revenue will the treasury lose when consumers stop spending, businesses stop buying, investing, lowering their earnings, less in international sales,  paying less in tax, followed by the inevitable rise in unemployment, again leading to lower treasury revenue.  When you do all of that math, what do you show being the surplus for treasury with these tariffs in 2025 through the end of his term?  Please show your work.  

    He can try to lower tax rates but he will blow a hole in the deficit even larger than 2017's bill.  
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
    Remember last week when you were basically insinuating the Democratic party was dead.  Not a week later, they blow out the R in the only state wide election, one where Elon got on television, rallied and poured in 20MM.   I probably won't be betting on anything you say to "watch".  

    I guess you missed my other comment this afternoon predicting a massive income tax cut likely to be announced soon?

     Mentioning elon and orange above is referencing the budget savings and funding generated by tariffs, and what can be done with that huge level of funding. He can now reshape how the economy functions and how wealth is generated, I don’t favor that but that’s a longer comment.

    Have you done the math as to how huge of an income tax cut they can do with this? My point is Dems are too worried about protecting foreigners rights to violently protest while on student visas or in your case perhaps overestimating the impact of an off year off season low turnout election has towards the future voting power in this country in order  to prepare for what trumps next move is.

    i am making the exact same point as last week about dem messaging and you didn’t catch it.
    Did you do the math on the other side of the equation?  How much revenue will the treasury lose when consumers stop spending, businesses stop buying, investing, lowering their earnings, less in international sales,  paying less in tax, followed by the inevitable rise in unemployment, again leading to lower treasury revenue.  When you do all of that math, what do you show being the surplus for treasury with these tariffs in 2025 through the end of his term?  Please show your work.  

    I absolutely disagree with the tariffs and the extent of elons cost cutting. My point is he will have his calculations and since he has his entire party in his back pocket, he will be able to get a transformative tax cut passed thru reconciliation. i think he can announce top cap gains rates of 14% and income rates at 29%.  It may be enough to rebound the s and p short and mid term

    he is trying to shift the tax burden from income to production based and to the working class, and turn the working class into factory workers. My point is, from what I am hearing from many liberals, they are not ready for this fight. Too worried about the rights of foreign students to organize violent protests and attack our kids.

    Dems have been outmaneuvered at every step in the past by trump, except for the Covid pandemic, which, of course, they overreacted to.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,366
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
     I don't think they deserve to have their cars vandalized any more than I deserve to have my Camry vandalized.
    Agreed. 

    Seems so obvious, yet here we are having the same conversation again. 

    Because liberals will go to extreme issues and look like extremists while  burning cars in order to not connect with mainstream voters. Watch Elon and orange turn the budget/tariff debate into another republican win.
    Remember last week when you were basically insinuating the Democratic party was dead.  Not a week later, they blow out the R in the only state wide election, one where Elon got on television, rallied and poured in 20MM.   I probably won't be betting on anything you say to "watch".  

    I guess you missed my other comment this afternoon predicting a massive income tax cut likely to be announced soon?

     Mentioning elon and orange above is referencing the budget savings and funding generated by tariffs, and what can be done with that huge level of funding. He can now reshape how the economy functions and how wealth is generated, I don’t favor that but that’s a longer comment.

    Have you done the math as to how huge of an income tax cut they can do with this? My point is Dems are too worried about protecting foreigners rights to violently protest while on student visas or in your case perhaps overestimating the impact of an off year off season low turnout election has towards the future voting power in this country in order  to prepare for what trumps next move is.

    i am making the exact same point as last week about dem messaging and you didn’t catch it.
    Did you do the math on the other side of the equation?  How much revenue will the treasury lose when consumers stop spending, businesses stop buying, investing, lowering their earnings, less in international sales,  paying less in tax, followed by the inevitable rise in unemployment, again leading to lower treasury revenue.  When you do all of that math, what do you show being the surplus for treasury with these tariffs in 2025 through the end of his term?  Please show your work.  

    I absolutely disagree with the tariffs and the extent of elons cost cutting. My point is he will have his calculations and since he has his entire party in his back pocket, he will be able to get a transformative tax cut passed thru reconciliation. i think he can announce top cap gains rates of 14% and income rates at 29%.  It may be enough to rebound the s and p short and mid term

    he is trying to shift the tax burden from income to production based and to the working class, and turn the working class into factory workers. My point is, from what I am hearing from many liberals, they are not ready for this fight. Too worried about the rights of foreign students to organize violent protests and attack our kids.

    Dems have been outmaneuvered at every step in the past by trump, except for the Covid pandemic, which, of course, they overreacted to.
    What you’re “hearing from liberals” is obviously what’s being funneled to you on social media via an algorithm.  
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