Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    oftenreading said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    That meme comments on her socialist (or at least perceived socialist) views. I don't see anything about it that can be tied to her race or gender. 
    Given how it's presented, the photo used, and taking it into context of how that segment operates, I think it's naive to not see how it also comments on her gender and youth at the least. 
    Naïve? Really? Even if I concede age (the meme does suggest she's a millennial that wants everything given to her), I'm not giving you gender. That's ridiculous. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    edited November 2018
    So if we only make fun of female minorities who are socialists, and pasty old white guys are off limits, I'm just imagining all these negative memes about Trump? They are all in my head?
    I hate when people say someone (especially in politics) is made fun of because of their race or gender. Everyone gets their fair share, race/gender has nothing to do with it 99% of the time.
    Anyone who responds with "you just pay for it" would get poked fun of when asked how to pay for anything, I would love for someone to explain how that is related to her Hispanic origins or being female. And have that same person seriously tell me that if a white man said the same thing that everyone would just buy it.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    Jesus dude, I was wondering where your outrage was coming from.

    Everyone including myself was wondering where you were getting this crap from and you are angry about a completely different thread?

    OK, since this thread was not started because she is a woman, Hispanic or a liberal, please feel free to carry on now.

    No, not "everyone" was wondering, because  (a) probably most everyone regularly on AMT saw the meme, and (b) we're all familiar with what that poster posts.

    It's fair game to comment on what people post in different threads on the same topic.
    Had no idea...  Sorry I wasn't more up on my AMT threads.

    When someone comes on a thread I started and says something I have no clue about it isn't my job to figure out where it came from so not sure why it's fair game but what do I know...

    This thread has already turned sour.  Y'all can have at it.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Back to sort of on topic. I doubt the GoFundMe is real. And complaining about the transition is weak, millions of people transfer jobs every year and go a month or two without pay. She'll be making triple the average teacher's pay, so if you can't find a way to make that work then maybe congress isn't the right place for you.
    But then I didn't see what she said about it as complaining. Unless there's more than what the NY Times article had, then I think anyone saying she's complaining and making a big deal about this is exaggerating what she said.  All she said (probably after being asked about it) was it is all becoming real and there's things to figure out. That isn't complaining.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    Jesus dude, I was wondering where your outrage was coming from.

    Everyone including myself was wondering where you were getting this crap from and you are angry about a completely different thread?

    OK, since this thread was not started because she is a woman, Hispanic or a liberal, please feel free to carry on now.

    No, not "everyone" was wondering, because  (a) probably most everyone regularly on AMT saw the meme, and (b) we're all familiar with what that poster posts.

    It's fair game to comment on what people post in different threads on the same topic.
    Had no idea...  Sorry I wasn't more up on my AMT threads.

    When someone comes on a thread I started and says something I have no clue about it isn't my job to figure out where it came from so not sure why it's fair game but what do I know...

    This thread has already turned sour.  Y'all can have at it.
    It is your job.
    ....or was. You're fired!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:
    Back to sort of on topic. I doubt the GoFundMe is real. And complaining about the transition is weak, millions of people transfer jobs every year and go a month or two without pay. She'll be making triple the average teacher's pay, so if you can't find a way to make that work then maybe congress isn't the right place for you.
    But then I didn't see what she said about it as complaining. Unless there's more than what the NY Times article had, then I think anyone saying she's complaining and making a big deal about this is exaggerating what she said.  All she said (probably after being asked about it) was it is all becoming real and there's things to figure out. That isn't complaining.
    I agree.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    Jesus dude, I was wondering where your outrage was coming from.

    Everyone including myself was wondering where you were getting this crap from and you are angry about a completely different thread?

    OK, since this thread was not started because she is a woman, Hispanic or a liberal, please feel free to carry on now.

    No, not "everyone" was wondering, because  (a) probably most everyone regularly on AMT saw the meme, and (b) we're all familiar with what that poster posts.

    It's fair game to comment on what people post in different threads on the same topic.
    Had no idea...  Sorry I wasn't more up on my AMT threads.

    When someone comes on a thread I started and says something I have no clue about it isn't my job to figure out where it came from so not sure why it's fair game but what do I know...

    This thread has already turned sour.  Y'all can have at it.

    "Fair game to comment on what people post in different threads", I said; not that it's your job to figure out where posts come from, but you have posted in the Did You Vote thread, so you've probably seen the meme being referenced. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    I don't understand anything in this thread.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    Jesus dude, I was wondering where your outrage was coming from.

    Everyone including myself was wondering where you were getting this crap from and you are angry about a completely different thread?

    OK, since this thread was not started because she is a woman, Hispanic or a liberal, please feel free to carry on now.

    No, not "everyone" was wondering, because  (a) probably most everyone regularly on AMT saw the meme, and (b) we're all familiar with what that poster posts.

    It's fair game to comment on what people post in different threads on the same topic.
    Had no idea...  Sorry I wasn't more up on my AMT threads.

    When someone comes on a thread I started and says something I have no clue about it isn't my job to figure out where it came from so not sure why it's fair game but what do I know...

    This thread has already turned sour.  Y'all can have at it.

    "Fair game to comment on what people post in different threads", I said; not that it's your job to figure out where posts come from, but you have posted in the Did You Vote thread, so you've probably seen the meme being referenced. 
    Haven't checked that thread in forever.  When they go sideways and communication seems pointless I just leave the convo.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    So if we only make fun of female minorities who are socialists, and pasty old white guys are off limits, I'm just imagining all these negative memes about Trump? They are all in my head?
    I hate when people say someone (especially in politics) is made fun of because of their race or gender. Everyone gets their fair share, race/gender has nothing to do with it 99% of the time.
    Anyone who responds with "you just pay for it" would get poked fun of when asked how to pay for anything, I would love for someone to explain how that is related to her Hispanic origins or being female. And have that same person seriously tell me that if a white man said the same thing that everyone would just buy it.
    I must have missed it, did she really say “you just pay for it” like the money to do so just magic appears?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    edited November 2018
    nvm
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    edited November 2018
    She did say it.
    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/11/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dodges-question-pay-medicare-position/

    Ironically I only find conservative sources reporting it, but I made sure to find one with audio.

    She did say we are paying more now, so free healthcare would be cheaper so that is how we "just pay for it." Said the same thing for free college and trade schools too, said we're paying for it now so we are already paying for it, government paid education would be cheaper.
    But never said how government is going to pay for either. Either she doesn't realize that there is a difference between the individual paying for it and the government, or didn't want to say the words "raise taxes." But she did say "you just pay for it."
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    mace1229 said:
    She did say it.
    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/11/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dodges-question-pay-medicare-position/

    Ironically I only find conservative sources reporting it, but I made sure to find one with audio.

    She did say we are paying more now, so free healthcare would be cheaper so that is how we "just pay for it." Said the same thing for free college and trade schools too, said we're paying for it now so we are already paying for it, government paid education would be cheaper.
    But never said how government is going to pay for either. Either she doesn't realize that there is a difference between the individual paying for it and the government, or didn't want to say the words "raise taxes." But she did say "you just pay for it."
    Okey, but that was not  in the Cuomo interview right?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't understand anything in this thread.

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    That meme comments on her socialist (or at least perceived socialist) views. I don't see anything about it that can be tied to her race or gender. 
    Thank you. Everyone knows Unsungs positions on socialism and "commies"

    ***NOT EVERYBODY THAT DISAGREES IS A FUCKING RACIST, SEXIST, OR NAZI***

    for the love of sweet baby jesus
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    my2hands said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    That meme comments on her socialist (or at least perceived socialist) views. I don't see anything about it that can be tied to her race or gender. 
    Thank you. Everyone knows Unsungs positions on socialism and "commies"

    ***NOT EVERYBODY THAT DISAGREES IS A FUCKING RACIST, SEXIST, OR NAZI***

    for the love of sweet baby jesus
    And everybody also knows that poster’s positions on race and gender, so that’s not a compelling argument. 
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited November 2018
    oftenreading said:
    my2hands said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    That meme comments on her socialist (or at least perceived socialist) views. I don't see anything about it that can be tied to her race or gender. 
    Thank you. Everyone knows Unsungs positions on socialism and "commies"

    ***NOT EVERYBODY THAT DISAGREES IS A FUCKING RACIST, SEXIST, OR NAZI***

    for the love of sweet baby jesus
    And everybody also knows that poster’s positions on race and gender, so that’s not a compelling argument. 
    Do we now? What are his positions on race and sex? Educate me
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    my2hands said:
    oftenreading said:
    my2hands said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    In the did you vote thread.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/278045/did-you-vote-yet/p23
    That meme comments on her socialist (or at least perceived socialist) views. I don't see anything about it that can be tied to her race or gender. 
    Thank you. Everyone knows Unsungs positions on socialism and "commies"

    ***NOT EVERYBODY THAT DISAGREES IS A FUCKING RACIST, SEXIST, OR NAZI***

    for the love of sweet baby jesus
    And everybody also knows that poster’s positions on race and gender, so that’s not a compelling argument. 
    Do we now? What are his positions on race and sex? Educate me
    Can we stop debating on other people.

    This is getting silly now.

    Looking for thread integrity...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mace1229 said:
    She did say it.
    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/11/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dodges-question-pay-medicare-position/

    Ironically I only find conservative sources reporting it, but I made sure to find one with audio.

    She did say we are paying more now, so free healthcare would be cheaper so that is how we "just pay for it." Said the same thing for free college and trade schools too, said we're paying for it now so we are already paying for it, government paid education would be cheaper.
    But never said how government is going to pay for either. Either she doesn't realize that there is a difference between the individual paying for it and the government, or didn't want to say the words "raise taxes." But she did say "you just pay for it."
    Okey, but that was not  in the Cuomo interview right?
    I believe that is correct. Right quote, wrong interview I guess.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    mace1229 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mace1229 said:
    She did say it.
    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/11/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-dodges-question-pay-medicare-position/

    Ironically I only find conservative sources reporting it, but I made sure to find one with audio.

    She did say we are paying more now, so free healthcare would be cheaper so that is how we "just pay for it." Said the same thing for free college and trade schools too, said we're paying for it now so we are already paying for it, government paid education would be cheaper.
    But never said how government is going to pay for either. Either she doesn't realize that there is a difference between the individual paying for it and the government, or didn't want to say the words "raise taxes." But she did say "you just pay for it."
    Okey, but that was not  in the Cuomo interview right?
    I believe that is correct. Right quote, wrong interview I guess.
    So you're saying some kind of doctoring... is at play...


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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