Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Did she survey her community before casting the "we" vote?
  • mcgruff10 said:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was the lone House Democrat to vote against a bill to reopen the government on Wednesday, a position she described as “a tough/nuanced call,” The Hill reported.

    The short-term measure included funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which Ocasio-Cortez explained in an Instagram story is opposed by many people she represents.

    Most of our votes are pretty straightforward, but today was a tough/nuanced call,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “We didn’t vote with the party because one of the spending bills included ICE funding and our community felt strongly about not funding that.”

    Curious to what her and their constituents would like to do about illegal immigration?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    mcgruff10 said:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was the lone House Democrat to vote against a bill to reopen the government on Wednesday, a position she described as “a tough/nuanced call,” The Hill reported.

    The short-term measure included funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which Ocasio-Cortez explained in an Instagram story is opposed by many people she represents.

    Most of our votes are pretty straightforward, but today was a tough/nuanced call,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “We didn’t vote with the party because one of the spending bills included ICE funding and our community felt strongly about not funding that.”

    Curious to what her and their constituents would like to do about illegal immigration?
    Great...another person in congress/government unwilling to compromise.  Just what we needed.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was the lone House Democrat to vote against a bill to reopen the government on Wednesday, a position she described as “a tough/nuanced call,” The Hill reported.

    The short-term measure included funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which Ocasio-Cortez explained in an Instagram story is opposed by many people she represents.

    Most of our votes are pretty straightforward, but today was a tough/nuanced call,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “We didn’t vote with the party because one of the spending bills included ICE funding and our community felt strongly about not funding that.”

    Curious to what her and their constituents would like to do about illegal immigration?
    Great...another person in congress/government unwilling to compromise.  Just what we needed.
    So now we can accuse her of holding the government hostage as well, right?
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    mcgruff10 said:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was the lone House Democrat to vote against a bill to reopen the government on Wednesday, a position she described as “a tough/nuanced call,” The Hill reported.

    The short-term measure included funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which Ocasio-Cortez explained in an Instagram story is opposed by many people she represents.

    Most of our votes are pretty straightforward, but today was a tough/nuanced call,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “We didn’t vote with the party because one of the spending bills included ICE funding and our community felt strongly about not funding that.”

    Curious to what her and their constituents would like to do about illegal immigration?
    She wants to fund the government, but only parts of the government she likes.  I think we should quit funding tax collectors...lol
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) was the lone House Democrat to vote against a bill to reopen the government on Wednesday, a position she described as “a tough/nuanced call,” The Hill reported.

    The short-term measure included funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which Ocasio-Cortez explained in an Instagram story is opposed by many people she represents.

    Most of our votes are pretty straightforward, but today was a tough/nuanced call,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “We didn’t vote with the party because one of the spending bills included ICE funding and our community felt strongly about not funding that.”

    Curious to what her and their constituents would like to do about illegal immigration?
    In all fairness, by constituents, she was probably referring to the Teletubbies dancing around inside of her head...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    She's a one person "tea party" in my book.  
  • The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

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  • The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

    I like her ideas, I really do but when she tries to explain them is where I get lost on her.

    She will be a wave of the future and I'd like to see younger people get elected so let's see.

    I may run next time.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

    I like her ideas, I really do but when she tries to explain them is where I get lost on her.

    She will be a wave of the future and I'd like to see younger people get elected so let's see.

    I may run next time.
    Do it... invite Ed to play a $20k per plate campaign fundraiser
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    edited February 2019
    The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

    I like her ideas, I really do but when she tries to explain them is where I get lost on her.

    She will be a wave of the future and I'd like to see younger people get elected so let's see.

    I may run next time.
    Only if she is learning from her present.  Pelosi continues to try and ....um.....coach her?  

    And I gotta admit, I'm not a Pelosi fan.  Don't agree with her on a lot of issues...but man is she riding high right now.  
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  • The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

    I like her ideas, I really do but when she tries to explain them is where I get lost on her.

    She will be a wave of the future and I'd like to see younger people get elected so let's see.

    I may run next time.
    Only if she is learning from her present.  Pelosi continues to try and ....um.....coach her?  

    And I gotta admit, I'm not a Pelosi fan.  Don't agree with her on a lot of issues...but man is she riding high right now.  
    Pelosi is doing all the right things right now that appeals to a lot of people.  

    She's "politickin"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    The devil is in the details but her head and her heart are in the right place. I’ve always wondered why the likes of Exxon/Mobil haven’t diversified their energy production.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/07/green-new-deal-markey-ocasio-cortez

    I like her ideas, I really do but when she tries to explain them is where I get lost on her.

    She will be a wave of the future and I'd like to see younger people get elected so let's see.

    I may run next time.
    Only if she is learning from her present.  Pelosi continues to try and ....um.....coach her?  

    And I gotta admit, I'm not a Pelosi fan.  Don't agree with her on a lot of issues...but man is she riding high right now.  
    Pelosi is doing all the right things right now that appeals to a lot of people.  

    She's "politickin"
    She must have had a Tiger's blood infusion.  She's winning.

    AOC...not so much.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…

  • That’s just dumb. We know who buys them by their FEC filings, if you’re really interested. Team Trump Treason on the other hand, his jacket would be a hammer and sickle.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    If we go by generally accepted definition, she isn't a lobbyist.

    If we go by a strict definition, i.e. anyone who seeks to influence government, then they all are, so yes, All or None. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    She's an ideologue. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    I expect my politicians to have an agenda.  How is that a bad thing?  You want her just wandering the halls of Congress aimlessly?

    What has she been asked to compromise on that she hasn't?  Government's only been re-opened a couple weeks now.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 

    That's not the definition of a lobbyist. 
    You know if you want to go by pure definition...then all politicians are lobbyists.

    So maybe a poor choice in words. 
    She's an ideologue. 
    She’s naive. But passionate. I don’t really like her but if she listens and learns she will be very effective. She is not effective yet, but it’s early
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Interesting that AOC turned down this appointment. Is it because it doesn't have legislative or subpoena power? Is it because Pelosi refused the "requirement" that no one on the committee may have taken energy contributions?  Ideological purity always makes me nervous.  Better to have a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. 

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/428916-pelosi-names-dems-to-new-climate-panel-but-not-aoc
    Hmmm is this what you get when you elect a lobbyist? 

    She is not doing what I would hope a Congress person would do. Of course, the precedent was set by the republicans of not compromising on Obama agenda. But she seems to be following suit in the no compromise all or none bullshit line of thinking.
    In what way is AOC a lobbyist?
    She’s got an agenda and has been unwilling to compromise even in the early going. She seems like she has a lot to learn but it’s not trending in the right direction off the bat. Heck her own speaker continue to feel the need to smack her down. 
    I expect my politicians to have an agenda.  How is that a bad thing?  You want her just wandering the halls of Congress aimlessly?

    What has she been asked to compromise on that she hasn't?  Government's only been re-opened a couple weeks now.
    She has no compromise in her yet. I think that’s a bad thing. There’s a reason she declined the appointment. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    That’s just dumb. We know who buys them by their FEC filings, if you’re really interested. Team Trump Treason on the other hand, his jacket would be a hammer and sickle.
    You should learn to chill...lmfao
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    I love her.  Out with the old in with the new
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,443
    Smellyman said:
    I love her.  Out with the old in with the new
    I can understand that. I agree with that in general.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,671
    I have a healthy respect for experience. None of these candidates that were touted to be speaker could have manhandled Trump.  That was 35 years in the making. 
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