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    unsung said:
    that's just a downright stupid thing for this guy to say, obviously, for so many reasons that don't even need pointing out
    I’m looking forward to when the headlines on Faux News, Brietbart, Drudge, et. Al blare “Democrats Don’t Want White Males to Vote!!!!” And Team Trump Treason Tweets it (4 Ts if you’re counting from home). One ex tv executive that nobody knows or has never heard of does not a movement make. But be afraid, be very afraid.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    unsung said:
    I often wonder if articles like this get written simply because someone has a desperate need for negative attention.  Ridiculous.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    No effort to marginalize though, right?

    Hopefully that has been put to rest.  

    Don't they think at all and realize that this just energizes the people that they don't want energized?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,542
    unsung said:
    No effort to marginalize though, right?

    Hopefully that has been put to rest.  

    Don't they think at all and realize that this just energizes the people that they don't want energized?
    Is this article even relevant enough for that kind of thinking to be applied to it? Seems like a completely obscure bunch of crap that nobody should be bothering with to me.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A TV CEO that controls/ed programming might be somewhat relevant, no?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,542
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    unsung said:
    A TV CEO that controls/ed programming might be somewhat relevant, no?
    Former TV CEO. He's not now. The former CEO of King Broadcasting Company and National Mobile Television, which I've never heard of. And he told PJ Media directly, which I've also never heard of. This is basically a nothing story.

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    A TV CEO that controls/ed programming might be somewhat relevant, no?
    Former TV CEO. He's not now. The former CEO of King Broadcasting Company and National Mobile Television, which I've never heard of. And he told PJ Media directly, which I've also never heard of. This is basically a nothing story.

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    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    A TV CEO that controls/ed programming might be somewhat relevant, no?
    Former TV CEO. He's not now. The former CEO of King Broadcasting Company and National Mobile Television, which I've never heard of. And he told PJ Media directly, which I've also never heard of. This is basically a nothing story.

    Exactly. Faux outrage. At a forum at an organization started by Ralph Nader no less. What’d ya expect? It’s not a plank in the dem platform.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,547

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    where the white women at ?
    Incels, proud boys, and white supremacists are asking the same thing
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I’d find your opinion more credible if you linked a Tweet to back it up. 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Pages of debate because of a ridiculous comment from a fucking a talking head...
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    Talking Heads great, David bryne more so
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




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    Gee, just guessing since the largest % of the population is white, well, we know who’s living in moms basement rather than fill any of those 7 million jobs. Slackers or suckers?

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    where the white women at ?
    Incels, proud boys, and white supremacists are asking the same thing
    lol 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Gee, just guessing since the largest % of the population is white, well, we know who’s living in moms basement rather than fill any of those 7 million jobs. Slackers or suckers?

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    Entitled millennials?  I’m soooooo surprised /s
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done

    Not enough people save for retirement either. Does that make their actions right? Should they be the role models?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Pages of debate because of a ridiculous comment from a fucking a talking head...
    and yet, here you are......
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    edited November 2018
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
    we're kind of argue-greeing here. imminent in the grand scheme? absolutely. imminent in the eyes of people's life expectancy, especially those in power who probably won't live long enough to see it? no. that's the problem. too many 70 year old men who don't give two shits about 30 years from now. or don't believe it. or both. 

    *nothing against 70 year old men, here, Brian. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
    we're kind of argue-greeing here. imminent in the grand scheme? absolutely. imminent in the eyes of people's life expectancy, especially those in power who probably won't live long enough to see it? no. that's the problem. too many 70 year old men who don't give two shits about 30 years from now. or don't believe it. or both. 

    *nothing against 70 year old men, here, Brian. 
    Oh believe me, I totally get it.  I have often been very critical of my boomer generation.  We were going to "change the world".  We were the "enlightened" generation at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius".  And what a crock of shit that turned out to be.  My generation is a huge let down.  That's a big reason I adopted the punk era.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
    we're kind of argue-greeing here. imminent in the grand scheme? absolutely. imminent in the eyes of people's life expectancy, especially those in power who probably won't live long enough to see it? no. that's the problem. too many 70 year old men who don't give two shits about 30 years from now. or don't believe it. or both. 

    *nothing against 70 year old men, here, Brian. 
    Oh believe me, I totally get it.  I have often been very critical of my boomer generation.  We were going to "change the world".  We were the "enlightened" generation at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius".  And what a crock of shit that turned out to be.  My generation is a huge let down.  That's a big reason I adopted the punk era.
    speaking of which, what did you think of the Headstones cd?
    Flight Risk out NOW!

    www.headstonesband.com




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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,722
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
    we're kind of argue-greeing here. imminent in the grand scheme? absolutely. imminent in the eyes of people's life expectancy, especially those in power who probably won't live long enough to see it? no. that's the problem. too many 70 year old men who don't give two shits about 30 years from now. or don't believe it. or both. 

    *nothing against 70 year old men, here, Brian. 
    Oh believe me, I totally get it.  I have often been very critical of my boomer generation.  We were going to "change the world".  We were the "enlightened" generation at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius".  And what a crock of shit that turned out to be.  My generation is a huge let down.  That's a big reason I adopted the punk era.
    speaking of which, what did you think of the Headstones cd?
    Did I not respond?  Ahh, one of the bummer of aging.  Forgetfulness!  Sorry!  And thank you!  Yes, very cool.  Lots of energy and "midnightofthislife", man, I get it!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Maybe progress will be made when people quit blaming a certain segment of our society.  70-year-old men are not the problem.  I spent 25 years in maintenance for a school board.  The worst recyclers were the students, the second worst was the younger teachers under 40, the best receivers I ever come across were the older teachers, in their 50's.  Same thing where my sister teaches.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I think if we really looked hard at it, we would find that SO MUCH of what passes for news these days is fringe.  This is in a big part due to social media.  All kinds of off-beat stuff gets posted and triggers our emotions.  We tend to focus on all these obscure situations and whackadoo people.  We swat at gnats when we could be spending our energy figuring out how to lessen our impact on the planet.  Mother Earth just shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  
    I only wish the climate scientists would tell us that imminent doom is these 3 three things:

    -going to affect us in the next 5-15 years in a catastrophic way
    -still currently reversible
    -renewable energy would make you rich if you INVEST NOW! 

    not enough people give a shit because they don't think it will effect them, or they think it's too far off to worry about, and there isn't enough profit 

    man I hope other species are able to sustain themselves after we're gone and what our species has done
    Your middle choice is, indeed, what many climate scientists are still saying.  Here's an article posted just yesterday (10.31.18) that talks about that:


    The article's last paragraph is almost overly simplified considering the science content within it:

    While we will presumably have to contend with many more summers like 2018 in the future, we could likely prevent any further increase in persistent summer weather extremes. In other words, the future is still very much in our hands when it comes to dangerous and damaging summer weather extremes. It’s simply a matter of our willpower to transition quickly from fossil fuels to renewable energy.


    - but it still makes an optimistic point that hinges strongly on a the will to act.  That, of course, may be difficult but maybe if enough of us get the word out that something can be done, and fewer of us resign to doom, well, who knows.  Wonders happen.




    yes, but I wish the distaster was imminent AND still reversible. by the time people wake up and realize it's their generation that's going to suffer, it will be too late. 
    I think it is imminent and at least somewhat irreversible.  What scientists are saying is that if we act soon, we can reduce the damage to a mostly survivable degree.  If we don't act soon, many many humans will die, perhaps much of our species.   This is why I support voting and voting against the extreme right that (it seems to me) have a human species suicidal tendency and hatred for nature.
    we're kind of argue-greeing here. imminent in the grand scheme? absolutely. imminent in the eyes of people's life expectancy, especially those in power who probably won't live long enough to see it? no. that's the problem. too many 70 year old men who don't give two shits about 30 years from now. or don't believe it. or both. 

    *nothing against 70 year old men, here, Brian. 
    Oh believe me, I totally get it.  I have often been very critical of my boomer generation.  We were going to "change the world".  We were the "enlightened" generation at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius".  And what a crock of shit that turned out to be.  My generation is a huge let down.  That's a big reason I adopted the punk era.
    speaking of which, what did you think of the Headstones cd?
    Did I not respond?  Ahh, one of the bummer of aging.  Forgetfulness!  Sorry!  And thank you!  Yes, very cool.  Lots of energy and "midnightofthislife", man, I get it!
    seeing them 3 times next week! they are playing their first record in its entirety. Picture of Health. If you have a way to check it out, do so. If not, I'll send you that one next. 
    Flight Risk out NOW!

    www.headstonesband.com




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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Pages of debate because of a ridiculous comment from a fucking a talking head...
    and yet, here you are......
    I make comments like that just to annoy you...you welcome.
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Maybe progress will be made when people quit blaming a certain segment of our society.  70-year-old men are not the problem.  I spent 25 years in maintenance for a school board.  The worst recyclers were the students, the second worst was the younger teachers under 40, the best receivers I ever come across were the older teachers, in their 50's.  Same thing where my sister teaches.  
    I said that because by and large that is who is in power. it isn't just about recyling (that's a very small part of it). it's about moving away from fossil fuels. that doesn't happen at the student level. 
    Flight Risk out NOW!

    www.headstonesband.com




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