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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    I'm not sure this is true or not.  My perception is that Trump doesn't give a shit about policy, so long as it lets him market.  He has no actual belief system.  The one exception is immigration/minorities.  He will stand fast on this issue, but no others really.  They may actually get some stuff done if he can strong arm a handful of Senators. 
    I hope I am wrong but I don't see a compromise between both houses of congress.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    You mean like the 8 years of Obama? I’d love for Pelosi to step before the cameras and announce, “our number one priority over the next two years is to see Team Trump Treason fail.”
    six years, no?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • jerparker20jerparker20 Posts: 2,501
    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    Ah, Team Trump Treason, sir? Repubs don’t vote for the opposing party’s speaker.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913
    Trump wants Pelosi because he knows her name is poison and helps the GOP in 2020

     Democrats will fuck this up, no doubt
    Probably.  Many seem to want to hand it to her like they did with Hillary.  But there are some that want a change.
    Someone like Tim Ryan from Ohio would be great for speaker, but yes they’ll fuck it up and hand it to Nancy.
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    So I'm not from the U.S, but I glance at what's happening from time to time. What does this all mean for the presidency of Donald Trump now?
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Correct. The one thing I hate is that nothing is going to get done in this country over the next two years. 
    You mean like the 8 years of Obama? I’d love for Pelosi to step before the cameras and announce, “our number one priority over the next two years is to see Team Trump Treason fail.”
    six years, no?
    Yup, 6. 3Xs longer than we’ll have to try.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    unsung said:
    Did your team win?
    I'm for Team Planet and dems are generally more environmental than reps so overall it was possible a tiny Team Planet win in the House.  Unfortunately, dem Jessica Morse lost her bid to replace long time conservative, pro Trump, Planet hater Tom McClintock, so in the case, Team Planet took a hit.  That leaves me with a lot of unhappiness this morning.  :frowning:
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  • MayDay10 said:
    it means Trump no longer has a rubber stamp in congress for things like repealing health care and tax breaks for the wealthy.

    The House can also legally demand documents like tax returns from Trump and others in his administration.  They can also launch investigations and load committees.  

    On a larger picture, there was a lot of democrat gains in crucial states that led to the Trump victory of 2016.  It is difficult to extrapolate the 2018 results to 2020, but its a very good sign (if you don't like Trump).  


    On the other hand.  Some Trump-backed governors and senators won, which also displays he still has a lot of clout and can throw his weight around, and is still a force to be reckoned with.
    Thanks for your reply. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction for the U.S and hopefully more people will turn out to vote against him in 2018.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    This is my favorite type of government given the possible results.  I love gridlock.  Lock it down.  

    I remember when Starbucks had a petition to get govt going, I refused to sign, she couldn't understand why.  The next two years are going to be great.  Although I am definitely right sided on most things the GOP the last two years has been scared of their own shadows.  I hope no legislation gets passed.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Tester/Ament won


  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Voted straight ticket female... if no woman was in the race, i didnt vote. 

    Will likely do that the rest of my life when possible. Same goes for minority candidates 
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/historic-firsts-midterms/index.html

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    Another 1st not mentioned - WA-8 went Dem for the first time ever, so WA flipped one of the House seats. Elected Dr. Kim Schrier, a local pediatrician, who ran on a healthcare reform platform. First time candidate going up against an established GOP candidate that had run (and lost) 3 previous state-wide elections. She will be the only female doctor in Congress. About time the old boys club of doctors gets a new perspective. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    jeffbr said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Voted straight ticket female... if no woman was in the race, i didnt vote. 

    Will likely do that the rest of my life when possible. Same goes for minority candidates 
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/historic-firsts-midterms/index.html

    Progress
    Another 1st not mentioned - WA-8 went Dem for the first time ever, so WA flipped one of the House seats. Elected Dr. Kim Schrier, a local pediatrician, who ran on a healthcare reform platform. First time candidate going up against an established GOP candidate that had run (and lost) 3 previous state-wide elections. She will be the only female doctor in Congress. About time the old boys club of doctors gets a new perspective. 
    Love it.

  • jeffbr said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Voted straight ticket female... if no woman was in the race, i didnt vote. 

    Will likely do that the rest of my life when possible. Same goes for minority candidates 
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/historic-firsts-midterms/index.html

    Progress
    Another 1st not mentioned - WA-8 went Dem for the first time ever, so WA flipped one of the House seats. Elected Dr. Kim Schrier, a local pediatrician, who ran on a healthcare reform platform. First time candidate going up against an established GOP candidate that had run (and lost) 3 previous state-wide elections. She will be the only female doctor in Congress. About time the old boys club of doctors gets a new perspective. 
    But will she overprescribe oxy?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited November 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    Why would you even bother sharing this?
    The republicans actually elected a dead pimp in Nevada and two congressmen who are currently under indictment. 

    Memes are worthless.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Democrats couldn't beat a dead pimp?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    unsung said:
    Democrats couldn't beat a dead pimp?
    Don't underestimate republicans' love of hypocrisy....family values and all. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    unsung said:
    Democrats couldn't beat a dead pimp?
    That's on the Republicans, not the Democrats.  Own your vote. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited November 2018
    unsung said:
    Democrats couldn't beat a dead pimp?
    Don't underestimate republicans' love of hypocrisy....family values and all. 
    Right, and R's elected a sexual assaulting racist president. Which is worse, being unable to win against ignorant morons or being the one to vote for the pimp and assaulter? I guess I'd walk away thankful I didn't have to represent such a group.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    While there was alot of sad news from Florida yesterday i would like to congratulate the Florida voters for voting for the Amendment 4 and restoring voting rights to over 1 million people.  
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    fife said:
    While there was alot of sad news from Florida yesterday i would like to congratulate the Florida voters for voting for the Amendment 4 and restoring voting rights to over 1 million people.  
    Yeah, too bad it didn't happen 1 day earlier. :lol:;)
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    Hey the menendez one is true, I have no clue about the other three.  Like I said, just wondering.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    Hey the menendez one is true, I have no clue about the other three.  Like I said, just wondering.  
    So you have no clue if a newly elected congresswoman has an IQ lower than a salamander, and if the other one married her brother?  You're really not sure about these things?  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Ugh. Come on, McGriff. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    edited November 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    Hey the menendez one is true, I have no clue about the other three.  Like I said, just wondering.  
    So you have no clue if a newly elected congresswoman has an IQ lower than a salamander, and if the other one married her brother?  You're really not sure about these things?  
    The anti-Semitic comments about the two on the right.  Obviously not the salamander one.  There were over 870 candidates for the house yesterday, how the hell would I know about everyone?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    Hey the menendez one is true, I have no clue about the other three.  Like I said, just wondering.  
    So you have no clue if a newly elected congresswoman has an IQ lower than a salamander, and if the other one married her brother?  You're really not sure about these things?  
    The anti-Semitic comments about the two on the right.  Obviously not the salamander one.
    You the dead pimp and the two under indictment are actually real right?

    Stop getting your news from memes please. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    Hey the menendez one is true, I have no clue about the other three.  Like I said, just wondering.  
    So you have no clue if a newly elected congresswoman has an IQ lower than a salamander, and if the other one married her brother?  You're really not sure about these things?  
    The anti-Semitic comments about the two on the right.  Obviously not the salamander one.  There were over 870 candidates for the house yesterday, how the hell would I know about everyone?
    Where your meme asking whether Sec'y Sonny Perdue really made a raging racist comment at a Florida rally last week (hint..he did).  
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    (psst...most probably don't know what "DFL" means)

    As for the poster:
    • Starting off with the hyperbolic "IQ lower than a salamander" sort of sucks the legitimacy out of that one.  Age-motivated at best.  Ethnicity motivated at worst.
    • I don't know much about Menendez.
    • The other two are Muslims from Minnesota and as far as I can tell they are being accused of being anti-semetic and/or America-hating because they are Muslims.  Nothing but a xenophobic smear. That said, Keith Ellison (right) was just elected secretary of state and was accused of abusing a former girlfriend.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    edited November 2018
    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    (psst...most probably don't know what "DFL" means)

    As for the poster:
    • Starting off with the hyperbolic "IQ lower than a salamander" sort of sucks the legitimacy out of that one.  Age-motivated at best.  Ethnicity motivated at worst.
    • I don't know much about Menendez.
    • The other two are Muslims from Minnesota and as far as I can tell they are being accused of being anti-semetic and/or America-hating because they are Muslims.  Nothing but a xenophobic smear. That said, Keith Ellison (right) was just elected secretary of state and was accused of abusing a former girlfriend.
    That's all I needed to know.  Thanks for explaining the two on the right in an educated manner without attempting to throw insults.  I do appreciate it.  (menendez is a pos by the way)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    unsung said:
    Democrats couldn't beat a dead pimp?
    Lol that was pretty funny
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    mcgruff10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just saw this, any truth to it? I only know about Menendez. 

    C'mon Mcgruff! You're better than this. Nice bunch of rips on us MN folk though I see. We were the only state that will probably see a DFL house seat go R, and maybe 2 with one still too close to call.
    (psst...most probably don't know what "DFL" means)

    As for the poster:
    • Starting off with the hyperbolic "IQ lower than a salamander" sort of sucks the legitimacy out of that one.  Age-motivated at best.  Ethnicity motivated at worst.
    • I don't know much about Menendez.
    • The other two are Muslims from Minnesota and as far as I can tell they are being accused of being anti-semetic and/or America-hating because they are Muslims.  Nothing but a xenophobic smear. That said, Keith Ellison (right) was just elected secretary of state and was accused of abusing a former girlfriend.
    That's all I needed to know.  Thanks for explaining the two on the right in an educated manner without attempting to throw insults.  I do appreciate it.  (menendez is a pos by the way)
    so is the POTUS you seem to align with on many issues , no matter how anyone spins it the POTUS is the biggest peice of shit in the country !
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