Yes America is great, because we can try to drop bombs on Obama, Clinton, CNN and Soros

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Calling all mainstream media fake news? Yeah, that's Trump's influence for sure.

I realize that you don't like the news and that there are things you don't like to consume. That and fake news aren't even related.

my2hands

Spoonfed bullshit is what we call the news now. Don't shoot the messenger. Unless of course the whole world discussing a has-been rapper being in the oval office passes as real news. 

Its 95% superficial garbage and celebrity worship. And we wonder why Donald Trump is president lol.

mfc2006

When will enough be enough? Seriously...our country is halfway down the shitter right now. Unfuckingreal.

unsung

“You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for”  -Hillary Clinton

“When they go low, we kick them”. -Erci Holder

“If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere,” -Maxine Waters 

Or they just do what this Bernie Sanders supporter did...



Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

tbergs

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Are you suggesting that they aren't talking or addressing those issues already? It seems to me they are doing both just fine.

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

Spoonfed bullshit is what we call the news now. Don't shoot the messenger. Unless of course the whole world discussing a has-been rapper being in the oval office passes as real news. 

Its 95% superficial garbage and celebrity worship. And we wonder why Donald Trump is president lol.

Do you ever try consuming news that isn't CNN or whatever? You act like that's the only news available, and that it's ALL inaccurate or irrelevant. Obviously that is not true. And like everyone who ever does consume that is a drooling moron who is incapable of media literacy. Except for yourself.

tbergs

I was spoonfed this...https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/10/suspicious-packages-clintons-obamas/573805/

my2hands

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Are you suggesting that they aren't talking or addressing those issues already? It seems to me they are doing both just fine.

I would say they are doing a better job of entertaining than informing. Their goal is ratings and ad revenue, just like every other TV show

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Are you suggesting that they aren't talking or addressing those issues already? It seems to me they are doing both just fine.

I would say they are doing a better job of entertaining than informing. Their goal is ratings and ad revenue, just like every other TV show

You've basically gone extremist on the issue.

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Spoonfed bullshit is what we call the news now. Don't shoot the messenger. Unless of course the whole world discussing a has-been rapper being in the oval office passes as real news. 

Its 95% superficial garbage and celebrity worship. And we wonder why Donald Trump is president lol.

Do you ever try consuming news that isn't CNN or whatever? You act like that's the only news available, and that it's ALL inaccurate or irrelevant. Obviously that is not true. And like everyone who ever does consume that is a drooling moron who is incapable of media literacy. Except for yourself.

I asked to not shoot the messenger. I've said before most  people view the news for entertainment and my team vs your team. I do not think people are drooling morons, I just think they are human

Also, considering the majority of my country gets its news from the few major outlets and channels, doesnt matter much where I get my news. But, I used to flip between them all... cnn, MSNBC, fox for fun... BBC is ok but I prefer PBS Newshour, still try to watch that when I can... listen to NPR in the car... print i tend to prefer the post & times... big fan of harpers magazine who I think brings the real stories in depth (they are legit)... love Zinn and his style (RIP)... also a fan of Chomsky but definitely preferred Zinn... used to watch Bill Maher but he is far too one-sided, but I think that's still a good political discussion show... I've also been known to enjoy MTP on Sunday mornings when I can 

tbergs

my2hands said:

tbergs said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Are you suggesting that they aren't talking or addressing those issues already? It seems to me they are doing both just fine.

I would say they are doing a better job of entertaining than informing. Their goal is ratings and ad revenue, just like every other TV show

I guess I have never kept track on the percentage of our "news" that is entertainment as opposed to deep content so I can't factually argue one way or another on the current trends, but I do think the entertainment news has been elevated to a more substantial part of the common person's news feed because of technology. The whole "trending" news articles drives what gets views and rises to the top for a brief period, but it's not like it is the only content or what is being pushed. I think entertainment news has managed to infiltrate more media outlets than in the past because they know there is a demand for it and since they already provide content, why not expand it while still maintaining the critical issue pieces they were already focusing on.

If all I wanted was trash news, I can find that, but I don't so I focus on the real world shit that matters. I may occasionally enjoy to read some mindless drivel that means little, but I think we all need a bit of that in order to maintain our sanity.

my2hands

The whole fucking world talked about Kanye for a week

Lol, yeah, news........

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Spoonfed bullshit is what we call the news now. Don't shoot the messenger. Unless of course the whole world discussing a has-been rapper being in the oval office passes as real news. 

Its 95% superficial garbage and celebrity worship. And we wonder why Donald Trump is president lol.

Do you ever try consuming news that isn't CNN or whatever? You act like that's the only news available, and that it's ALL inaccurate or irrelevant. Obviously that is not true. And like everyone who ever does consume that is a drooling moron who is incapable of media literacy. Except for yourself.

I asked to not shoot the messenger. I've said before most  people view the news for entertainment and my team vs your team. I do not think people are drooling morons, I just think they are human

Also, considering the majority of my country gets its news from the few major outlets and channels, doesnt matter much where I get my news. But, I used to flip between them all... cnn, MSNBC, fox for fun... BBC is ok but I prefer PBS Newshour, still try to watch that when I can... listen to NPR in the car... print i tend to prefer the post & times... big fan of harpers magazine who I think brings the real stories in depth (they are legit)... love Zinn and his style (RIP)... also a fan of Chomsky but definitely preferred Zinn... used to watch Bill Maher but he is far too one-sided, but I think that's still a good political discussion show... I've also been known to enjoy MTP on Sunday mornings when I can 

Well like I said before, this whole forum is pretty based on what we see in the news, so I'm not sure why your main theme is, apparently, trying to convince everyone to stop that. You're fighting a losing battle, lol. Also, you're really not saying anything that all of us aren't cognizant of, and deal with in our own ways. You're just finding new ways to express that you can't personally handle consuming the news these days. Or that's what it seems like anyway.

josevolution

I don't give a crap at this point i've already stated that this country is an ugly place with fucking ugly humans to boot , i'll just wrap my wings around my loved one's and shoosh away any idiots that represent the hatred no matter if your a democrat or specially a putrid Republican i stay away ..
The division is all the fault of the baffoon everything that has happened is on him since he took office .....Blame him 

my2hands

CNN. NBC. Fox. Etc. Etc. Etc.

They all exist simply for one reason, ad revenue generated by ratings. Their goal is to entertain, not inform. They have all become celebrity driven outrage factory's that spend 30 seconds on a story, usually a bullshit story. 

I call it how I see it, dont hate me. 

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

CNN. NBC. Fox. Etc. Etc. Etc.

They all exist simply for one reason, ad revenue generated by ratings. Their goal is to entertain, not inform. They have all become celebrity driven outrage factory's that spend 30 seconds on a story, usually a bullshit story. 

I call it how I see it, dont hate me. 

Lol, I don't hate you. I am also simply calling it how I see it.

The thing is, even if that is their ONLY motivation, which I don't believe at all - those people are real reporters you know - but agree revenue is one of their main motivations, that doesn't at all mean that the vast majority of the factual news they report isn't accurate or that they are reporting fake news. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And all you have to do is look at the fact check stats to know exactly how accurate each network is (of course FOX is a different story. CNN, et al, are not comparable to FOX. But even FOX reports real shit sometimes). I have a degree in Communications, so I do have at least some idea about how the news works, or at least like to think so.

cincybearcat

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

brianlux said:

It's ALL fake news. 

Now we are getting somewhere

Sounds like Trump's magic is working on you guys!

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Call me when the corporate main stream media on either side wants to talk about real issues in depth. Until then, I'm not interested in porn stars attorneys and partisan talking heads on the payroll

Wait....you aren’t interested in porn stars?

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

CNN. NBC. Fox. Etc. Etc. Etc.

They all exist simply for one reason, ad revenue generated by ratings. Their goal is to entertain, not inform. They have all become celebrity driven outrage factory's that spend 30 seconds on a story, usually a bullshit story. 

I call it how I see it, dont hate me. 

Lol, I don't hate you. I am also simply calling it how I see it.

The thing is, even if that is their ONLY motivation, which I don't believe but agree revenue is one of their main motivations, that doesn't at all mean that the vast majority of the factual news they report isn't accurate. Those two things are no mutually exclusive. And all you have to do is look at the fact check stats to know exactly how accurate each network is (of course FOX is a different story. CNN, et al, are not comparable to FOX. But even FOX reports real shit sometimes).

They are owned by massive corporations... a corporations only duty,  by law, is to profit

That is their only goal. Ratings = revenue

*BREAKING NEWS* 
A porn star tweets about Trumps dick. Rapper visits oval office. 

*MEANWHILE*
Study suggests 2030 as tipping point for global climate change 

*YOU DECIDE*
Which got more coverage? 

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

CNN. NBC. Fox. Etc. Etc. Etc.

They all exist simply for one reason, ad revenue generated by ratings. Their goal is to entertain, not inform. They have all become celebrity driven outrage factory's that spend 30 seconds on a story, usually a bullshit story. 

I call it how I see it, dont hate me. 

Lol, I don't hate you. I am also simply calling it how I see it.

The thing is, even if that is their ONLY motivation, which I don't believe but agree revenue is one of their main motivations, that doesn't at all mean that the vast majority of the factual news they report isn't accurate. Those two things are no mutually exclusive. And all you have to do is look at the fact check stats to know exactly how accurate each network is (of course FOX is a different story. CNN, et al, are not comparable to FOX. But even FOX reports real shit sometimes).

They are owned by massive corporations... a corporations only duty,  by law, is to profit

That is their only goal. Ratings = revenue

*BREAKING NEWS* 
A porn star tweets about Trumps dick. Rapper visits oval office. 

*MEANWHILE*
Study suggests 2030 as tipping point for global climate change 

*YOU DECIDE*
Which got more coverage? 

Again, profit and accurate news is not mutually exclusive. Nor are reporting accurately and not covering everything you or I feel should get more attention ... Dude, at this point I feel like you're just ignoring every point I'm making.

I do agree nobody should ONLY watch CNN or whatever other American news network... Remember that the rest of the world exists out there, lol.

And FWIW, I think that whole Kanye at the WH thing was actually important news in its own right because of what it said about the leaders of the nations, but agree these networks should have a lot more variety, because each hour segment, with different hosts, tend to focus on the same story. They should all be made to focus on a different story each day, so you don't get 3 straight hours of the same. But in any case, either way, it's not fake news.

Again, I think we all get it. You assume everyone is only consuming news from the major American news networks and you don't like it. Got it. Let's move on.