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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    kramer73 said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    I hate all the lectures, politics, shaming, and I used to be pooor rants, Ed goes on, just talk less and play more.
    are you new to the band?
    Nope, since 92.  I love s good story, but keep all the political/shaming home thank you 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,090
    hrd2imgn said:
    kramer73 said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    I hate all the lectures, politics, shaming, and I used to be pooor rants, Ed goes on, just talk less and play more.
    are you new to the band?
    Nope, since 92.  I love s good story, but keep all the political/shaming home thank you 

    Thats what partisans say when someone exercises their first amendment right to try to improve the country

    Everybody who disagrees with the bands point of view is not forced to attend its shows
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    hrd2imgn said:
    kramer73 said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    I hate all the lectures, politics, shaming, and I used to be pooor rants, Ed goes on, just talk less and play more.
    are you new to the band?
    Nope, since 92.  I love s good story, but keep all the political/shaming home thank you 
    More political/Shaming and less rock and roll gimmicks.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,090
    PB11041 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    This may be unpopular here but I'll give it a whirl:








    Elton John is a more dynamic touring artist than Pearl Jam. His farewell tour, expected to run 2018- to 2021, will encompass...

    300 shows.

    Worth stating again.. 

    300 shows


    That's about 18 years worth of shows for our beloved Pearl Jam (in this limited tour era...I hope they are healthy)

     At the Garden last night enjoying the show and remembering the good old days when PJ would be on that stage and play arenas

    And Elton played a SOLID 2 hours and 35 minutes.

    Not bad for an accomplished star who hit the stage 23 years before Ten 
    I went to a show this year and it was fantastic. Problem is though for me is the copy and paste style of his shows. Conversations between songs and setlist are the exact same night in and night out. I watched a couple of his live videos from the past in the 2004-05 era and some of his comments between songs were identical to what I heard in Quebec this year. Like word for word. Ya the number of shows is up but there is no way I would have watched 7 of his shows this year like I did with Pearl Jam. 


    Certain bands are definitely only meant to be seen once a tour. U2 is one of those bands, thankfully pj is not one of those bands. 


    I agree Elton put on a great show...fantastic being a better word...but all 30 shows this year, same exact setlist.

    As much as I love PJ mixing it up, id trade that in for a couple of 40 show years like Elton is doing this year. I dont think we'll ever see that again from  seattle.

    300 shows over 4 years? 71 years old? That is impressive. 2 hours 35 minutes, same show time as PJ. Double impressive. And im a casual Elton fan.

    I dont believe Elton playin 300 shows, or 18 years worth of Pearl Jam dates, has anything to do with the same setlist

    What the same setlist allows for is an incredible 4k video and a modest light show without the dark black hole effects and spotlights shining out at me instead of onto the stage, as occurs with PJ. Is there even a Seattle band on that stage?
    I think we are on the verge of a couple of bigger tour years. I think the biggest reason they have been sporadic in the past is they all had young families, and going on the road for for basically three months at a time is not easy.  

    I am rooting for you to be right, but feeling the emptiness of the last four years itinerary.
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    kramer73 said:
    hrd2imgn said:
    I hate all the lectures, politics, shaming, and I used to be pooor rants, Ed goes on, just talk less and play more.
    are you new to the band?
    Nope, since 92.  I love s good story, but keep all the political/shaming home thank you 
    More political/Shaming and less rock and roll gimmicks.
    Less political/shaming for some and less rock and roll gimmicks for others...

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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Charlottesville 2013
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Anddd shut down the thread. What a stupid thing to say. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Sometimes it's best not to say anything at all, even in the unpopular opinions thread.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Sorry but I still feel that way..I pass homeless in the street everyday and they hang in there..the guy had so much to live for..
    Charlottesville 2013
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited November 2018
    wndowpayne said:
    Sorry but I still feel that way..I pass homeless in the street everyday and they hang in there..the guy had so much to live for..
    Kay, well just so you know, some suicidal people aren't anywhere near the kind of mindset you seem to think they are. They are not at all capable of having a clear mind about what's good for their kids or what their death might mean to others, or they are in a place that makes them believe that their family will actually be better off without them. No matter how you cut it, you're failing in terms of empathy here.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    wndowpayne said:
    Sorry but I still feel that way..I pass homeless in the street everyday and they hang in there..the guy had so much to live for..
    He did indeed but he wasn't well. Mental illness is real. 
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    My Uncle shot himself. My mother was devastated. He also left two young kids behind, I guess seeing that may make me biased. I didnt understand that one either.
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    edited November 2018
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Can't stand the "suicide is selfish" bullshit. It's such a slap to the face and disregard for the person dead and his/her pain and struggle.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Individuals with mental health problems are often unfortunately so torn that they actually think their being gone will make things easier for people.  To call that cowardly or selfish is really just blatant disregard for or utter lack of knowledge of their circumstances. 

    We actually have concocted medicines that trigger mood swings in those that take them and have to be advertised with such labels "can cause suicidal thoughts".   That in and of itself should provide anyone with enough understanding of the fragility of the human psyche that a chemical imbalance created to avert a different or similar problem can make it appear or potentially more acute.  

    To anyone who thinks for a second that your world would be better without you in it, stop.  You are wrong. Go talk to someone.  Go do something that you enjoy.  But do not follow through with the impulse.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,961
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Mate you are on thin ice here. I'm prepared to argue the shit out of this. Best lock this down.


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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    wndowpayne said:
    My Uncle shot himself. My mother was devastated. He also left two young kids behind, I guess seeing that may make me biased. I didnt understand that one either.
    Obviously the pain and devastation left behind is also horrible - and also "real." I don't think anyone will deny that. 
  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Very unpopular view and i'm sure people will shit on you for having it. You're entitled to your view no matter what anyone says.

    I've had a family member and one of my best friends commit suicide, I was and still am angry with them for doing so. They both had so much to live for but they couldn't see it no matter how hard we tried. Every time I see my friends daughter and how she has grown up i get so angry that he is no longer here for her and can't help feel the same feelings you mention. 

    NYPJ
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited November 2018
    Fenway/Wrigley/Safeco are great places for a concert.... Need to get this back on topic!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    wall232 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Very unpopular view and i'm sure people will shit on you for having it. You're entitled to your view no matter what anyone says.

    I've had a family member and one of my best friends commit suicide, I was and still am angry with them for doing so. They both had so much to live for but they couldn't see it no matter how hard we tried. Every time I see my friends daughter and how she has grown up i get so angry that he is no longer here for her and can't help feel the same feelings you mention. 

    Fair... but being angry is different than calling them selfish and cowardly. IMO.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    PJ_Soul said:
    wall232 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Chris Cornell suicide was selfish and cowardly..beat that!! I know he was suffering from depression but to do that to your kids is....
     I think someone wished death on me for that one..
    Very unpopular view and i'm sure people will shit on you for having it. You're entitled to your view no matter what anyone says.

    I've had a family member and one of my best friends commit suicide, I was and still am angry with them for doing so. They both had so much to live for but they couldn't see it no matter how hard we tried. Every time I see my friends daughter and how she has grown up i get so angry that he is no longer here for her and can't help feel the same feelings you mention. 

    Fair... but being angry is different than calling them selfish and cowardly. IMO.
    Yeah, I agree that was harsh...
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