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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    tbergs said:
    Listened to an NPR interview this morning with Missy Carr defending Kavanaugh.  The interview shows that if you are left thinking Kavanaugh is a liar and if you are on the right Ford is a liar.

    No matter which way this goes, the conspiracy theorists will be out in force.
    I don't subscribe to some of the crazy on the right, but how is Kavanaugh not a liar?
    I'll flip it for you as I hear both sides of the coin and this is what A Kavanaugh defender says.

    How is she not?  Fear of flying, second door in the house, What house, how'd she get home, doesn't remember how she got there, the former boyfriend just came out with a statement that attacks her credibility.


    Just what is the issue that people see as significant with “fear of flying”? 
    Credibility is what they are saying.  If she was afraid of flying then why was she.
    That's what I hear most people say, but that wasn't my take on it.
    My take was a more subtle sleight, pointing out how this was intentionally delayed.  
    Setting up for the fact she said she was holding out for an offer for them to come to CA. And now they are claiming they did offer to come out but the lawyers possibly messed up the communication.
  • mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    Listened to an NPR interview this morning with Missy Carr defending Kavanaugh.  The interview shows that if you are left thinking Kavanaugh is a liar and if you are on the right Ford is a liar.

    No matter which way this goes, the conspiracy theorists will be out in force.
    I don't subscribe to some of the crazy on the right, but how is Kavanaugh not a liar?
    I'll flip it for you as I hear both sides of the coin and this is what A Kavanaugh defender says.

    How is she not?  Fear of flying, second door in the house, What house, how'd she get home, doesn't remember how she got there, the former boyfriend just came out with a statement that attacks her credibility.


    Just what is the issue that people see as significant with “fear of flying”? 
    Credibility is what they are saying.  If she was afraid of flying then why was she.
    That's what I hear most people say, but that wasn't my take on it.
    My take was a more subtle sleight, pointing out how this was intentionally delayed.  
    Setting up for the fact she said she was holding out for an offer for them to come to CA. And now they are claiming they did offer to come out but the lawyers possibly messed up the communication.
    Yes, that was the other angle that I read too.
  • tbergs said:
    Listened to an NPR interview this morning with Missy Carr defending Kavanaugh.  The interview shows that if you are left thinking Kavanaugh is a liar and if you are on the right Ford is a liar.

    No matter which way this goes, the conspiracy theorists will be out in force.
    I don't subscribe to some of the crazy on the right, but how is Kavanaugh not a liar?
    I'll flip it for you as I hear both sides of the coin and this is what A Kavanaugh defender says.

    How is she not?  Fear of flying, second door in the house, What house, how'd she get home, doesn't remember how she got there, the former boyfriend just came out with a statement that attacks her credibility.


    Just what is the issue that people see as significant with “fear of flying”? 
    Credibility is what they are saying.  If she was afraid of flying then why was she.
    Honestly, people are complaining about that, and you are accepting of that argument? Because that a pretty crappy thing to do to someone. 

    Almost half of people are afraid of flying to one degree or another, and yet most people do fly, if they have to. Most people muscle through it, with Ativan or alcohol or just willpower. 

    I had a bad bike accident on an icy road more than 20 years ago, I am still terrified of cycling on the ice, but I do. I cycle year round and when it’s icy, or I even think it’s icy, I am anxious my whole ride. I hyperventilate as I ride over bridges and arrive at work all tense, but I still do it. It hasn’t gotten any better, either. 

    So, am I lying about being afraid of cycling on icy roads? 
     
    You'll have to take the argument up with the right as I agree with you.  The other things I listed are also attacking her credibility.

    Again, this is what I read that the right /conservatives are discussing.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited October 2018

    tbergs said:
    Listened to an NPR interview this morning with Missy Carr defending Kavanaugh.  The interview shows that if you are left thinking Kavanaugh is a liar and if you are on the right Ford is a liar.

    No matter which way this goes, the conspiracy theorists will be out in force.
    I don't subscribe to some of the crazy on the right, but how is Kavanaugh not a liar?
    I'll flip it for you as I hear both sides of the coin and this is what A Kavanaugh defender says.

    How is she not?  Fear of flying, second door in the house, What house, how'd she get home, doesn't remember how she got there, the former boyfriend just came out with a statement that attacks her credibility.


    Just what is the issue that people see as significant with “fear of flying”? 
    Credibility is what they are saying.  If she was afraid of flying then why was she.


    How's Kavanaugh's credibility after lying last week? Shouldn't perjury immediately disqualify him from the Supreme court?


    Are you asking me or asking what the republicans think?

    I believe I misinterpreted your comments.

    Apologies... disregard.

    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Credibility is what they are saying.  If she was afraid of flying then why was she.

    Here's a running list of Kavanaugh's lies, mony of which were under oath. They have all been proven demonstrably false. None of them rely on Ford's credibility. https://www.gq.com/story/all-of-brett-kavanaughs-lies
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,810
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    "Your boyfriend is a dork... McLovin"
    - Lil Pump
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    This is coming from the guy who still drinks zima on the weekend. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    This is coming from the guy who still drinks zima on the weekend. 

    The problem being why wait until the weekend?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    This is coming from the guy who still drinks zima on the weekend. 

    The problem being why wait until the weekend?
    He usually puts the jolly ranchers in on Monday so they really adhere to the zima. Ideal Soakage time is right around five days. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If he gets through, then @mcgruff10 and @unsung and whoever had to sell their Bruce albums can never again try to argue that the US  belong even in the discussion about the greatest countries in the world.

    And that is even with Unsung even having no problems mocking Sexual Assault victims. The US is done. It's over. No trophy for you.

    Lindsey Graham and the Swinging Swampers orchestra.
    I don't own any Bruce albums but I'd be happy to use Kiss albums as target practice.  ;)
    Lol, why waste the bullet on a Kiss album?  Just throw it in the trash :)
    I knew that eventually we would come to full agreement on something.
    The hatred of kiss brings all of us together. I love it. 

    Ummmm While I haven't listened to them in a long time.... I like Kiss.  Queen and Kiss were my 2 entry bands to Rock.  Welll 2 of 4 (with probably ACDC and Motley Crew)
    Don't worry about Scruffy. He's a dork. His music tastes are very questionable at best.
    This is coming from the guy who still drinks zima on the weekend. 

    The problem being why wait until the weekend?
    He usually puts the jolly ranchers in on Monday so they really adhere to the zima. Ideal Soakage time is right around five days. 
    Soooooo kegger at Brett's this weekend to celebrate the big W tomorrow? Bring your own Zima. I don't know how you boof the jolly ranchers though, uf-da.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    edited October 2018
    dignin said:

    Powerful and impressive piece of art. A picture is worth a thousand words, but can contain just as many if so desired.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tbergs said:
    dignin said:

    Powerful and impressive piece of art. A picture is worth a thousand words, but can contain just as many if so desired.
    Time covers have been killing it these past few years.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    With the FBI "investigation" concluded I think this needs to be reposted here.

    A powerful political cartoon depicting the assault of Lady Justice has gone viral in the wake of recent allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh The graphic image is an explicit reference to how California professor Christine Blasey Ford described an alleged sexual assault by Kavanaugh when they were both in high school in 1982
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:
    dignin said:

    Powerful and impressive piece of art. A picture is worth a thousand words, but can contain just as many if so desired.
    Time covers have been killing it these past few years.
    Something something lib'rul media something something fake news something something facts and book learning is fer coastal elites something something